Iran nuclear deal: '99% of world agrees' says Obama

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  1. Arjay51

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    When the comparison is obvious, it should be pointed out so that the leftist deniers can see it.
     
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    Really? I never said that.

    I'm willing to bet that myself and many other RWers never said that because the POTUS wasn't appeasing and strengthening a self-sworn enemy of the United States that had American blood on its hands.
     
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    And how did that work out? Everything better now?

    I don't think so.
     
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    It is simply so easy...in 1938 Chamberlain along with several world leaders including the French and with Britain's very own John Kerry in the form of Lord Halifax, got together and sold out another nation in a desperate search for 'Peace in our time'. This week we have had a modern president with several world leaders including the french with the fake war hero John Kerry selling out another nation in a desperate search for 'peace' at any price....

    You comment only makes sense if you assume your readers are clueless about history, which, sadly, some are.

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    He obviously didn't get the Obama 'all is well' memo....
     
  6. Gatewood

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    Brilliant!
     
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    Both of which are irrelevant and should be ignored.

    Former U.S. Diplomats Praise Iran Deal
    More than 100 former American ambassadors wrote to President Obama on Thursday praising the nuclear deal reached with Iran this week as a “landmark agreement” that could be effective in halting Tehran’s development of a nuclear weapon, and urging Congress to support it.
    “If properly implemented, this comprehensive and rigorously negotiated agreement can be an effective instrument in arresting Iran’s nuclear program and preventing the spread of nuclear weapons in the volatile and vitally important region of the Middle East,” said the letter, whose signers include diplomats named by presidents of both political parties.
    They wrote that they recognized the deal “is not a perfect or risk-free settlement of this problem.”
    “However,” they added, “we believe that without it, the risks to the security of the United States and our friends and allies would be far greater.”

    http://www.nytimes.com/2015/07/17/us/politics/former-us-diplomats-praise-iran-deal.html?_r=0
     
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    Absurd appeal to authority fallacy. It's laughable.
     
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    The popularity of this deal is declining as more details are being discovered and released. It's looking like the most partisan leftists in the congress are going to be Obama's base of support on this one.
     
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    Nope. They want it to work. Sure, 99% of the world does want it to work - but you couldn't possibly even hope that 99% of the world thinks it will work, do you?

    We've had similar proposals before. They didn't even slow down such programs, they accelerated them. :applause:
     
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    Lol...As opposed to the absurd appeal to chicken little hysteria that the right wallows in.
     
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    What was the deal about if Iran wasn't interested in nuclear weapons? If the left knows they wouldn't use them, then there would be no reason for a deal, would there?
     
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    I doubt 99% but most nations just want to do business with Iran and it was reaching the point where most of them would do just that regardless of what the US was going to do. Obama decided it was best to not go it alone and at least get some kind of a deal that international partners would back. Hard to disagree when you consider the big picture.
     
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    See?

    Race to the bottom.
     
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    Just curious - why are we giving Iran gold? What's up with that?
     
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    It’s just laughable how desperate some people are to misinterpret this agreement. Bibi’s blind followers in particular.As a matter of fact this deal appears to be an improvement on the current situation. Pay attention to facts, not scaremongering.

    Everyone relax, Israel can live with Iran deal

    Op-ed: Agreement demands that Iran must stop enriching high grade uranium, ship out its current stockpiles, end plutonium production, undergo frequent inspections, and all this is tied to the threat of renewed sanctions.


    Prof. Uzi Even is a physics professor at Tel Aviv University and served as a scientist at the Dimona reactor.

    http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-4680188,00.html
     
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    Hmm, why was Iran producing plutonium? Why did they hide the Fordow enrichment facility? They were to undergo unannounced inspections as a signer of the NPT, so if that piece of paper required inspections, why is this piece of paper better than that one?. Why, to this day, haven't they allowed inspections at the Parchin weapons facility? Why were they enriching high grade Uranium?

    Can anyone on the left honestly answer these questions?
     
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    The Liar-in-Chief speaking for the 99% again.

    Nothing new here, nothing to see.
     
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    At the last minute Russia and Iran insisted in lifting the conventional arms embargo figuring that Obama and Kerry were desperate for a deal. They were right. Now Iran will have no trouble shipping the latest and greatest Russian and Chinese conventional weapons to terrorists.
     
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    Just one reason why this deal is so bad and dangerous. But don't pile too many facts on leftist apologists...they're denying as fast as they can.
     
  23. Yosh Shmenge

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    Wow! Chicken little hysteria? I didn't expect you to drag out the big intellectual guns
    here. Most people discuss the actual agreement itself...you went right for denigrating and insulting the opposing view and that means you lose.
     
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    The arms embargo had nothing to do with the nuclear issue and was wrongfully imposed by USA.

    The Iran deal is a great result for world trade. The Baltic Dry Index has risen 6+% overnight as ship owners and companies that use shipping services have recognized the benefical impact it will have on world trade and the consequent increased volume of shipping expected..
     
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    Do you think it's possible to prevent Iran from ever getting a nuclear weapon? I don't. I think most experts believe they are months to a few years from accomplishing it. Short of destroying that country (something we cannot do at this point), I don't see anyway to keep it from happening.

    I think this deal is not about preventing Iran from getting a nuclear weapon. It's about controlling the process and opening dialog so we are in a better position to deal with a nuclear Iran when it happens. By inserting ourselves into the process through inspection and trade I think the hope is we can influence Iran not to do something really stupid with the bomb they will eventually get. And maybe slow down their progress to it by reducing the economic pressures. Pressures that are pushing them to make it happen sooner rather than later, and that will likely have them in a hostile and intractable posture when they get there.




     

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