What is a social norm in America that you feel is ridiculous?

Discussion in 'Political Opinions & Beliefs' started by Adam Somlec, Jul 16, 2015.

  1. Johnny-C

    Johnny-C Well-Known Member

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    It's not about me and NO... I'm not perfect, not by any means. I'm not comparing myself to you nor anyone here. I don't know you, per se.

    What? Why exaggerate so and why the general 'hostility'? I really don't understand that.

    Negativity and of-the-hook aggression; I really can't relate to that.

    I don't see the point you are really trying to make. That you do not 'like' "liberals" is clear enough.
     
  2. Johnny-C

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    Oh yes, I DO understand. I know well, that we disagree about this.

    I also realize that it's not my job nor my goal to absolutely convince you here.

    So be it.
     
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    It's not about me either. It's about social norms that are ridiculous.

    Whenever there's hostility, you can bet your bottom dollars it's coming from one of two places: fear, or pain.

    Well, you better learn. You're going to be seeing a lot of it.

    PC is a social norm that is "ridiculous". You should never put a hammer in your toolkit if you don't intend to use it. And if you're a technician in the field and your job suddenly calls for a hammer, then you're SOL aintcha?

    There's a lot of things I "don't like". Sometimes I use rudeness to put distance between me and whatever is causing me pain. Sometimes being "left alone" is sufficient, and other times it's not, and other times it doesn't even work.

    But why use a nuclear bomb when a little rudeness will suffice?

    It's not that I don't "like" liberals, that has nothing to do with it. It's that PC is dangerous and I want to keep it away from me, my family, and my children. I don't want my young impressionable children being taught "not to" use the tools at their disposal. I teach them to use everything at their disposal - and then some!

    People being taught "not to" use the tools at their disposal, equates with the dumbing down of America. And that's a liberal thing, brought to you by liberals with their liberal PC.

    PC is dangerous, it's beyond ridiculous.
     
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    Yes, I knew that. But you seemed to make it personal by one of your previous responses.

    Even so, I know we disagree to a level that informs me to disengage with you for now.

    Regards.
     
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    We can engage anytime you wish, but PC will be met with hostility. ;)
     
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    We all have our views about these things. :)
     
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    I'm just teasing Johnny, you seem like a nice likable fellow.

    You're just so..... "liberal". LOL ;)
     
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    Adam, America is a big country. Different things are acceptable or unacceptable in different places in United States. Figure out what kind of society you want to inhabit, and most likely there is one.
     
  9. GeorgiaAmy

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    This is "truth or dare"? ;)

    IMO, it's all about the critical thinking. Critical thinkers are outwardly focused, they're skeptics. Sheeple are exactly the opposite, they're inward-focused, they "absorb" stuff.

    Now, you climb aboard any city bus or train during rush hour, and look around. What do you see people doing? Smart phones! Right? Texting, or surfing the 'net to the best of their ability. "Watching", as it were. Watching the screen. We've become a nation of "watchers", commenting on everything that goes by without really participating.

    Even the art of "robbing blind" has become largely a statistical exercise, kind of like program trading or something. You "watch" the screen, then when the moment is right you push the button. Exactly like using a smart-phone, that way.

    But when a Don Trump character comes along and does something unexpected, suddenly the entire nation goes into deer-in-the-headlights mode, jaws drop to the ground and the watching stops "for a moment" while people express their outrage - then they go right back to watching again.

    What do we do with our politicians in Weaselton DC? We watch them, right? There's not a whole lot we can "do" about them, between elections, so we just "watch". There hasn't been a tarring and feathering in the United States in over 150 years - even though they're occurring weekly over in Europe. (Here's one from about a year ago, it musta been quite painful....)

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    :)
     
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    You criticize political correctness, say something politically incorrect.
     
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    I never hear any American voter bring up term limits in the house and senate. Never hear them contemplating the impact career politicians have. High school grads with honors have no idea this country is a Constitutional Republic.
    It is sad, depressing...
    I honestly hope Silicon Valley can save us.
    Our idiot politicians are powerless over Google, Verizon, Microsoft, Apple, etc.
     
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    Well, last time I tried that, I got banned. I mean, I'll do it if I feel it's worth it.... and I mean no offense but, you seem quite nice so "you don't rate". ;)

    I can point you to the overall tone of 100% of my posts though, for instance when it comes to partisan politics my favorite expression is "a pox on both their houses". In this day and age, not being red or blue is very politically incorrect. People accuse you of all kinds of horrible stuff, like throwing away your vote or whatever - no one really thinks you're "smarter than the rest" by being an independent.

    Really, I promised the mods I'd go easy for a while, I was a hellion when I first got here, offended "just about everyone", and that resulted in piles and piles of infractions and some banning... so... I've established my bonafides. :) I'm going to be a good little citizen for a while, until there's an issue that's worth my speaking on. Mostly at this point I'm interested in all of your viewpoints, that's why I came here in the first place.

    Other than that, y'all can kiss my.... oops... there I go again. :roflol:
     
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    ^Awesome Post

    The Social Norm in America that is not able to vote for itself but rely on politicians to represent the voters.

    See, Democracy is when every person has a vote on every topic.

    The Polls and History say it all. Politicians are CHEAP, for Industry.
     
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    Even non-African blacks are called Africans because people are too afraid to call them black, and too lazy to learn all of the different black societies by name.
     
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    The US has no official langauge. English has been the most common langauge because most of the people have been white English speaker. That is changing. In this country, the majority dictates what langauge is most common. If most people in Texas speak Spanish now, learn spanish.
     
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    In my experience, it's usually Christians who get offended if someone does NOT say merry Christmas. According to the far right, the "replacement" of merry Christmas with happy holidays is one of the key examples of the war on Christianity. They claim that any store or even any person, who does not take part in their religions expressions is violating their religious rights.
     
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    My town has a network of bike/jogging paths that covers the entire town. You can get anywhere without even getting onto a main road.
     
  19. GeorgiaAmy

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    You cannot offend me. No one can. I am not religious. I have no allegiance or devotion to any belief. Anything I think is up for reconsideration in light of new, better, more reliable information. Blind political party allegiance is a sad cancer...and reality...
    There is nothing I can do to fix stupid.
    I hate muslims. I have no regard for their wellbeing. If that offends anyone, I don't care. The United States is the best and most powerful country on earth. We can do anything we want, we will do it diplomatically, make it look nice and rob ya blind.
    I imagine most of what I said is not politically correct. I don't care.
    You word vomit about the dangers of political correctness and say absolutely nothing. You lack substance. You lack courage.
    Shut up so you don't leave the rest of the world with the impression Americans are weak, impotent, imbeciles.
     
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    Wrong.
    I live in metro Atlanta, have for almost 40 years. There is a substantial black population here. We call them blacks. Blacks call us whites. Name the black societies by name, please. School me.
     
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    Yes. You are.... an alcoholic. ;)

    btw - did you ever notice that there are doctors in AA meetings, there a lawyers, there are actors (LOTS of actors)...... but there never any politicians. I think it's that first step that makes 'em uncomfortable.... y'know.... "we admitted we were powerless"... that's when they all run screaming from the room....

    Don't mistake cooperation for weakness.

    Last person who did that.... well never mind.

    I'm in a useful equilibrium right now. I can speak my mind and everyone knows exactly what I'm saying, even if I don't use the same pointed words I used last week.

    I respect your opinion. However.... a word to the alkie in you, perhaps - you were doing fine till the first two words in the last sentence. Those two words represent a crossing of the line. Remember, you're powerless. :)
     
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    There are blacks from Cuba who are often called African American, as are other Caribbean islanders (Haiti, Dominica, Jamaica, etc...). Then there are black populations in South America.

    If any of these people are living in the US, they are usually considered African American. Black Caribbean Islander, or Black with hispanic decent, is not even a selection in ethnicity sections for most forms.
     
  23. GeorgiaAmy

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    You did some research on me, impressive. Obviously I have peaked your interest.
    What opinion of mine do you respect?
    Step one, we admitted we were powerless over alcohol, not powerless.
    I have never met an actor in an AA meeting. Nor in detox. How many AA meetings have you attended?
    You have written lots of words and said absolutely nothing.
     
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    Funny, your second point is the reason an adult like myself sometimes still buys shirts from American Eagles. Since I'm not fat in stomach apparently like adults are supposed to be, normal shirts are way to big.

    And the fact that I have to buy slim fit dress shirts to get for a shirt that fits me. . .but I'm of perfect weight for my height. . .and I am swimming in a regular fit.
     
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    Can I say that I respect your honesty, and obvious willingness to tackle your problem? That isn't easy. I'm personally not all that enamored with certain aspects of AA like saying your are powerless against your addiction. I think it's possible to be powerful.

    Just putting your first pipe or bottle or needle down is powerful. It's a tug of war, and you do have power.
     

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