Why Full Disclosure of Existance of E.T.'s is a Good Thing.

A while back I was sitting out by my pool at night with a friend and we saw something I have seen many times near a very large former SAC base that is so large it was an Alternate Emergency Landing Site for the Space Shuttle.

We saw three Orbs that appeared to be glowing or almost burning Road Flare Orange shoot across the sky from the direction of where this massive former SAC Base is in Western Mass. and these Brightly Glowing almost burning Orange Orbs moved in a triangular formation at an altitude I estimate of about 1,500 to 2,000 feet and they moved a distance of about 15 miles in a split second.

Their velocity I would estimate to be 5,000 mph and they came to a full stop about 2 miles away from us without deceleration.

Such velocity and stoping is impossible for any Human Pilot to survive and impossible for any aircraft to survive or do.

They hovered then just shot away at about the same velocity.

We discussed why the U.S. Government and NASA does not disclose the vast amount of information and data and video it has of such events happening constantly in Earth's atmosphere and in space and I told him....

"They will never release this information because people JUST CANNOT HANDLE IT!"

Earlier today I saw my friend and he was with his sister who is a Born Again Christian and he reminded me of what we both saw that day and we began discussing the same topic when his sister angrily interjected and started spouting quotes from the Bible and going on about how Man was created in GOD's image...etc.

And her tirade reminded me what I myself was told a long time ago when I was made aware of certain realities inline with this discussion....that being I was told....PEOPLE JUST CANNOT HANDLE IT!!!

Now some people can handle it...but only to a point.

But the majority of people just cannot handle the reality as it really conflicts with their beliefs which they use like a SECURITY BLANKET and as I was again reminded as I watched a movie called JUPITER RISING....as this woman is saved by a Human who is Genetically Sliced with another being....as she stated she must be dreaming because only a dream can explain what she is experiencing and seeing and this Genetically Altered Human say's to her........

...."What? You think that what you have just experienced is more impossible than the impossibility that you are the only intelligent race on a single planet in a Universe that has so many planets that you don't even have a name for the vast number of such planets that exist in this Universe?"

And this made me realise once again that people that actually think in a Universe that is so vast that we are the only intelligent life forms is much more possible than E.T. Races existing....just shows me how UNREADY people are for Full Disclosure.

AboveAlpha

 

There's likely extraterrestial life, but they're far from us and likely not comparable in complexity or anatomy.

That said, you were probably hallucinating. Completely mentally healthy people can hallucinate on occasion. I myself often hear Jazz music just before I drift off to sleep.

 

I said before I believe there is life out there. That life, intelligence life does not have to take the same form or even be based on the same elements as we are on earth. Being visited by E.T.'s I think would take some type of space and perhaps time warping or folding. Other life is probably millions if not billions of light years away. But who is to say some other species may have developed a means of transportation we haven't even thought about or think it is possible.

There may be species out there where time is different, years may be minutes to them or vice versa. Just because something is unknown and most things I would speculate are unknown in this vast universe does not mean it doesn't exist. Would we or our ancestors even know if an E.T. contacted us? Perhaps it was E.T's who gave us the bumps that gave us our leaps forward. who really knows?

But back to your question, why couldn't people handle it? There are other religions than Christians. It is possible that god the creator could have been an E.T. Most cultures and other religions refer to someone or being/s from the sky or heavens coming to earth to create mankind. I do not think religion or a religious tirade is the reason people or most people couldn't handle it. Governments, they probably do not want to admit there is something else out there more powerful then they and our government is defenseless to prevent or stop any of the E.T.'s.

Perhaps it is people have a mob mentality, being shown they too are defenseless and at the mercy of some being from the stars could very well cause panic. We rely on our government to protect us, other countries rely on theirs. Perhaps the knowledge would lead to mass hysteria, riots, who knows?

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Yeah, as an old fart I hallucinate having Marilyn Monroe or Raquel Welsh in bed with me before I drift off to sleep.

 

People who think aliens have visited the Earth drive me crazy. Do you people not understand how big space is, how physics works, and how interstellar travel is a functional impossibility?

 

I'm sorry, I must have missed the point you were making about how full disclosure is a good thing?

Unless you mean people should be shaken up?

As for people not being able to handle it, yes I agree. I know from personal experience. I have seen such people. Most recently, there was a lady leading a music group, who had an alien head guitar pick, but later she talked to me and said "there's no such things as aliens, right?" That attitude shocked me, I wasn't expecting that from someone with an alien head merchandise.

Generally when people don't want to believe in aliens I just leave them alone.

 

Naw....I am not prone to seeing things that are not there.

Far from it as I have been trained to observe the smallest of details and retain such knowledge.

But perhaps if people were aware of the fact we are not the only intelligent space-faring race maybe there would not be so much war and hate.

But more likely disclosure of this fact would scare the hell out of people.

AboveAlpha

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I purposely posted it would be a good thing in a form of sarcasm.

No....it would definitely not be a good thing.

AboveAlpha

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Since I have a degree in Particle Physics...yes I am aware.

I am also aware since we know the warping of space-time is possible so is it possible to do this artificially.

But you would need to have and understand a Unified Field Theory.

AboveAlpha

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I posted this topic as a form of sarcasm.

People really are not ready.

AboveAlpha

 

How much energy would it require to warp space-time enough to travel interstellar distances?

 

Aww, it was biting sarcasm.

I was hoping to see a certain type of aliens again in the future, now that I don't have amnesia.

I was hoping for the big reveal, and that E.T. sets up shop. Then maybe I can stop by the E.T. and say hi.

Otherwise, in a future where there is no big reveal, if I do see them again, per chance, they might visit me when I'm not ready.

 

Actually, no, I don't think disclosure that we are not the only intelligent species in the Universe would make us less violent.

If having free nations in the West, where we've found a better way to live, didn't stop brutal tribalism and warlord violence in the Middle East and Africa, then I don't see how knowledge of E.T. would help.

Heck even if it devalues religion and leads to the end of such religious fueled strife, people are just people. And in some places lives are cheap. People choose to live in the stone age and violence.

 

It would require a Matter/Antimatter Multiversal Cascade Reaction to generate the necessary energy to represent mass to fold or warp Space-Time.

Thus the Matter/Antimatter reaction is not just occuring in one Universal State but within all Divergent Universal States of Reality very much the same was a Photon exists as both Particle and Wave as at every point of position within the wave length packet the Photon exists....as it is actually existing in an NT State in all Divergent Universal Realities.

The Double Slit Experiment details a bit of this as an example.

AboveAlpha

 

No. And neither does any other living human being.

It is pure hubris to think we understand anything when we've only had atmospheric flight for less than 100 years. Humanity is a speck when you consider the age of the earth, let alone the universe.

 

First the human eye is incapable of judging distance of an object of unknown size in a night time sky, hard enough to do it during the day because you have frame of reference and you eye plays tricks. It the object is moving across the sky and then turns and flies away from you it will appear to stop motion, dead stop. Plus the military flies lots of aircraft that have VTOL.

My wife and I and my brother and his girlfriend sailed the BVI's once and the first night out after finding anchorage got pretty toasted on the local rum. Was a dark night in a dark unlit harbor with about 10 other boats anchored. My brother and his girlfriend and I were up top looking at the stars and noticed these lights up in the sky that at first we thought were planes landing back at St. Thomas but they were moving way too fast and making all these weird movements, stopping, sudden turns and we knew it had to be UFO's or something. My wife came up and we said look at the UFO's up there, and she said what? You mean the anchor lights on the mast on the boats next to us swaying in the wind?

It was really good rum..........

 

I have seen these before.

They seem to be robotic as I estimate their size at approx. 7 Meters in Diameter.

I also know the distances from where they were to where they moved and as I have been trained to judge approx. distances of aircraft as long as a person knows the approx. size of the craft they can understand the the altitude and velocity.

AboveAlpha

 

Yeah but it sure makes for great movies.

Unless wormholes that an organic being could actually travel through and survive, even if you could travel near the speed of light the distances are just insurmountable.

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So you estimated their altitude and velocity based on your estimation of their size at night with no frame of reference.....gotcha.

 

I live here.

I know the distances and I know their approx. diameter.

Thus I can judge relatively accurately their altitude and velocity.

AboveAlpha

 

IMO...it would be depressing to imagine that earthlings are the best example of "intelligent life" that the universe has to offer. I personally do not believe that for one second.

 

Say, AboveAlpha, would you judge yourself to be ready for the reality that humans aren't the only intelligent creatures in the Universes?

But say you didn't know what you know now, just that you came to realize one day that we are not alone, but without the gory details? Do you think you could handle it?

And if so what about you makes it possible?

And if not, do you think anyone would seriously come to the conclusion that we are not alone and not be a crazy?

 

Our Galaxy has approx. 200 Billion Stars within it and a lot more planets than that.

There are approx. 200 Billion Galaxies in the Universe as we can see with the Hubble Telescope 13.4 Billion Light Years distant to the actual edge of our expanding Universe.

At that point exists a wall of Microwave Radiation and beyond that is a 379,000 Light Years Deep Ocean of Superheated Plasma.

Where ever we point the Hubble or Chandra X-Ray Telescope and do a 1 Micron observation this is what we can see.

So we calculate...and this is a LOW BALL ESTIMATE....200 Billion Galaxies with an average of 175 Billion Stars within each and of course there are more Planets than stars in each Galaxy thus even if a tiny percentage can support life and not all life need be Carbon Based...but still this means there exists an unfathonable number of suitable life supporting planets.

To think only Human Beings are the only Intelligent Space Faring Life out here in the Universe is the height of conceit and stupidity!!

It is like saying if you were living in the middle of a large desert in an Oasis and because you had never ventured more than 100 miles away from that Oasis in any distance and only found sand that you would then believe that YOUR OASIS was the only oasis that existed on the Planet!!

The sad part is the people that think this way are the one's that call those of us who are aware that our Oasis or our Planet cannot possibly be the only one with life upon it or intelligent life....well they think WE ARE CRAZY!! LOL!!!!!

They don't realise how utterly moronic it is for them to think no other Inteligent Space Faring Races exist in a beyond massive Universe.

AboveAlpha

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Anyone who thinks we are alone are crazy!!!

Actually...no...they are not crazy...they are just either ignorant of the realities or fearful of the realities.

AboveAlpha

 

Probably has something to do with religious beliefs.

 

Actually, there are a number of current hypothesis and wild arsed speculations about faster than light travel, but of course both our knowledge and technology aren't yet up to the task. Quantum entanglement and wormholes (warping space) are two such.

I personally have no doubt that life exists all over the universe, if for no other reason that the laws of probability make it as close to a certainty as can be had.

I suppose the "humanity isn't ready for the truth" might be a plausible explanation for why ETs have not publically revealed themselves, but then again, I would suggest an observer seeing something out of the ordinary might interpret it to be an ET instead of some naturally occurring but rare phenomena like ball lightning, much like ancients thought lightning was god being angry.

Apart from biologicals and perhaps cultural artifacts, we would have nothing at the bottom of our gravity well that is not found in abundance in our very own solar system.

No need to grub in the ground for anything on the periodic table or water, so unless they really are "kidnapping people to conduct medical experiments" and making crop circles to drive people crazy, or scooping other forms of biomass. a huge number of what we consider compelling reasons for their visiting us just don't exist.

 

No I get that. How much energy would be required not just to fold space-time but to do it over interstellar distances?

What I'm trying to get at is, if you basically have to release a supernova worth of energy to travel a thousand light years, you are not going to use that energy to go to a Podunk little isolated planet.

 

I think some are, most probably not. But the topic always interests me.

 

Personally, I have never seen any case where was something which can be named to be a UFO at all (no matter if Allien or secret weapon), but I know about several cases which make people thinkable about the possibilities that there is something outside our planet existing and which is visiting us.

Pure by fact our own Galaxy has estimated about 100 to 300 billion Solar Systems and each one has about 0 to “?” planets. As we know, any planet with live must be in a special zone of distance to his sun, means to far = too cold, too close = too hot. But as we know too in meantime from our own planet, some “live” can exist is worst conditions too.
If we now see that there is not only own Galaxy existing, but uncounted more and each have the same of about 100 to 300 billion solar systems, the pure chance that there is any live existing is not only very high, it is sure that it exists!
But the question is now about intelligent live … and here the chance is not only very high too, but for sure existing. And now we are going to the question if there is any intelligent live, which is so superior in Technology over us that they can travel these enormous distances. I will say and answer here that it is possible and most likely!

If we take alone on our own history a closer look, we had so often huge differences between 1 part of the world over another one – think about Inka etc. against Spanish in America or the European powers in comparison to the people in Africa … what can be rated as differences of centuries in development! Such a difference could be given here too for sure. Think a moment about with what we flew in the air in 1915 and with what today in 2015 = only 100 years later!

Sure, one argument is always and of course Einstein and that at least nothing can be faster as the light etc. Well, during the last decades we had so in natural sciences so much new discoveries of things which were blame always before to be impossible etc., why is Einstein then for all times valid and can’t be disproved?

Will I’m be afraid about if Alliens visit us really? In sum of all facts and point my answer is yes! If these species are only half in their behavior as we human from earth, then we have a real problem! As someone explained in the past in context:

If we are invaded by another species, then we are like the native red man fighting with bow, lance and tomahawk against Winchesters, Revolvers and canons!
I have no big desire to play “Geronimo” against any Alliens … to be honest!

 

So you are claiming you have seen advances lifeforms in their highly advanced spaceships.

And not just optical illusions.

 

I don't know why most people assume that E.T.goes from his planet to ours in one trip. They could build service stations along the way. probably have a base on the other side of the moon.

I think even the ancients saw heaven as being in a different spiritual plane and yet so many if not all old paintings and drawings depict people looking up at the sky as though we know that that's where we came from.

I think we could beat them if we were invaded unless they dropped some kind of earth shattering bomb on us. Not in the air, but to control a populace requires boots on the ground and once they step out of their ships we'd have the advantage of numbers. They're no immortal.