Can we believe anything!

Discussion in 'Political Opinions & Beliefs' started by Private Citizen, Nov 17, 2014.

  1. Private Citizen

    Private Citizen Well-Known Member

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    so I have to say this. White cops shoots unarmed black man is a factual statement unless the cop was black or the the victim was armed or white. It does exclude a lot of facts so this is a half truth propaganda technique. The propaganda statement. White cop shoots unarmed black man leaves out all other pertinent information and allows people to form an opinion that is favourable to the person or person's making the statement.
     
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    Belief implies trust.

    And I have only one view of the concept of "trusting a politician" : :roflol:
     
  4. Jango

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    Never ever underestimate your ability to 1) be ignorant & 2) be surprised.
     
  5. Private Citizen

    Private Citizen Well-Known Member

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    it is not just politicians. It's the media, and the schools to. The media holds the politicians secrets. The schools teach a selective history lesson. Imagine if the public school system told people the truth about the 14th amendment. How it creates a new citizen and how that new citizen is nothing more than a "subject". The illusion of freedom would die that day and a real chance at freedom would then be possible.
     
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    Anyone that posts with a Henry Kissinger signature is not a trustworthy soul and should be ignored at all cost. Nothing good will come from your words. Just more confusion.
     
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    Any other random disqualifiers of people you'd like to share?
     
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    Nothing random about Kissingerites. Do you agree with his words?
     
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    (*)(*)(*)(*) no. I've quoted him for the simple reason that his thinking is in line with the various levers of power found within the government -- those who don't mind breaking the law or violating the U.S. Constitution. It is on display to discourage the people who truly believe the U.S. Government is a gentle, loving giant intent on doing only good things -- yes, those types of people are found here.
     
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    I apologize for the mistake. When someone uses his words in their signature usually they are a staunch defenders of his. I'm glad to hear the constitution is important to you. Not enough people care about it and that is why we are losing it. If you are familiar with the bankruptcy of the United States then you know we really don't have constitutional rights anymore. We have been stripped of freedom and turned into subjects.
     
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    Yep, I cannot imagine how the train of the inane got so many passengers that have so much zeal for the same sensational issue over and over again, then into the next piece of semi useless information as if it was the life blood of change somehow to do so.

    Basically working to make a wall of problem with no solution. Ground ripe for nihilism, rejecting all effort of change as a waste.
     
  13. Jango

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    Oh yeah, bubba. I'm keenly aware of that. The way things look and the way things are, are very different. And here I've got the love of my life wanting to have my children... everyone always says go for it, but my luck, my child would be born on the day Martial Law is declared. :wall:
     
  14. Private Citizen

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    You are wise to be weary of bringing any new life to this world. You would make a good father. I have one child and the guilt of bringing her into this world haunts me. What good father or mother bares new slaves for their master's. I knew better but my wife was ignorant. I tried to explain things to her at the time but failed miserably. I did finally show her the truth about a year ago (thank God). I would love a son but we are done enslaving our children.
    I'm glad you know better. Does your wife? If not, you should be showing her what you know until you show her the right thing. My wife finally saw the truth when I showed her a documentary called "what in the world are they spraying". I was very relieved when she finally saw the truth but at the same time it broke my heart. Her life will never be the same and now she must bare the responsibility of the truth. No one knows if or when martial law is coming. From some things I have been reading we have been in martial law for almost 90 years already. If the president makes an executive order then we are under martial law. He only has that power during wartime or a national emergency. Conveniently we have been at war or under a national emergency since 1933. It would only take a snap of the finger by the treasurer or the president and the full extent of martial law will be at our doorsteps.
     
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    I'm sad to say it but you are right. How can we fight nihilism? They are defeated before the fight. Most will lay down with out a fight.
     
  16. Jango

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    Which is when my wife has said that she would get worried. She's a glass half full type, rose colored glasses an all, but she knows a lot of what I know and a whole bunch that I don't -- I'll be talking about some thing that happened back in the '60's and she'll one up me by busting something out from like 12AD. She wants a little one nonetheless. Ultimately though, the decision is all mine, such as it was yours too. I am the man, therefore, when everything is said and done, it is my choice on whether or not I give in to her demands because she is simply incapable of physically making me do it. So it'll be my Will Power going up against Getting Some. Game over, man. ;)
     
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    I was where you are in 1980. I have 2 kids now. I knew then what dark times were coming and did not want to bear the responsibility to myself for them, if I brought them into the world. Well, they are here now so it's time to use what I know to try and make a difference for their futures.

    PrivateCitizen just asked about countering nihilism.

    I'll answer here because that is really the underlying issue to this side discussion about what is believable.

    Having a valid plan and working on it counters nihilism. There is another aspect above and beyond that.

    Epigenetics. The conditions an organism exists in changes which genes are producing cells and which are not. What this means is that if the plan you are working with has the real potential of protecting your children, and the world they need to live in, it protects all children. It basically protects all living things.

    Your mental state is a condition that effects epigenetics. Knowing you are working with a plan having immense potential prevents nihilism, depression, and creates the basis for reality, action based hope, positive outlook with daily actions to match.

    The epigenetic side of this is greater mental acuity and deepened intuitive capacity. It's all in service to life in the future generally. What this does eventually, logically, it gets rid of the opposition.

    If they are not working with a real plan that benefits the future on the scale of the plan you work for, they are working against their own natural interests. This eats them up unconsciously, they become weaker, less innovative and cannot oppose the plan you are working with well.

    In all, working to see the ultimate purpose of free speech manifested, has a tremendous power that is positive and natural. It is natural law, and prime to our survival then evolution.

    http://www.politicalforum.com/opini...assure-info-vital-life-shared-understood.html
     
  18. Private Citizen

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    Good luck with that will power. My wife can be very persuasive:smile:
    I'm afraid it will be to late to worry when they are at your door step. I have learned in my life, happy wife happy life. Your child may grow to resent you some day. That may happen no matter what you do.
    It was the best day of my life the day my daughter came in to the world, but after that it was a tough first year. Very limited time and sleep.
     
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    Oh yeah, I certainly agree with that -- happy wife happy life. I always laugh at the dudes who are anti-marriage or even anti-relationship. They apparently do not understand that having a loyal woman is one of the greatest things a man can have in his life.

    The 'very limited time and sleep' is something I am certainly not looking forward to -- I've signed that stuff away before when I went into the Marines, so I have experience in how (*)(*)(*)(*)ty it is and can be. And as a writer, I need time and sleep to produce a worthwhile product. Eh, I suppose I'll figure it out when I get to that bridge, ya know?
     
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    Anyone who believes Hillary about her eMail server will believe ANYTHING.
     
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    We're all living inside an epidemic of negative thinking and negative thinking always leads to depression. We get told and taught what to think but very, very few of us are ever taught how to think and the result is that thinking negatively is what most of us do most of the time. It becomes a default state. Just read any forum like this for not only evidence of negative thinking but, far more perniciously, how seeing so much negative thinking causes us to normalise it. It surely doesn't help that there are many people who understand how this works and exploit other people's negative thinking for their own personal gain or agenda. Religion, politics, and advertising excel at this kind of manipulation.

    Try a week of no negative thinking. It's almost impossible but at least you'll become aware of just how much of it we all subject ourselves to and perpetrate ourselves.

    Then you'll see it everywhere and it'll drive you nuts. :-D

    Rusty Hauser - who posted here, went postal, and then killed some folks - was inevitably immersed in negative thinking so it can be a really serious condition.

    Some gigantically insane number of Westerners are guzzling all kinds of hideous pills in order to quieten this negative thinking in the hope that it'll make them happier.

    It's a mess and a half and all it's really about is poor quality, negative thinking.
     
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    But... but.. I can't believe that either, if I can't believe anything!
     
  25. Private Citizen

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    How true. I'm personally guilty of being the glass is half empty kind of person. I started to wear a bracelet to remind myself to be a more positive person. It worked well for six weeks but then the bracelet became normal and I ended up taking it off. I probably should try switching arms to keep it fresh.
     

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