Do we need wars?

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Do we need wars?

  1. Yes

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  2. No

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  3. I dunno

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  4. Others ( please explain )

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  1. Ostap Bender

    Ostap Bender Well-Known Member

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    Are we gradually becoming crazy, we discussing matters like wiping out entirely nations by nukes, completely destroying of countries, punishment of dictators by bombing their countries etc. etc. etc.Why we are so bloodthirsty?Can you imagine yourself cities full of corpses, dead children and womans, destroyed infrastructures? We shall try to prevent ANY war and not to discuss how better to nuke USA, Russia or Iran.
    Sorry, but we shall not forget clearly commandment of God, we are not allow to kill!Period.
    Why we dare to eliminate God's creations only because somebodies opinions we want not accept.
    Also, here is my question, do we need generally wars. If you answer 'NOT' do not forget to write how to prevent them, please.
     
  2. Kranes56

    Kranes56 Banned

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    Ask the military industrial complex and they'll give you an answer.
     
  3. trucker

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    yes we need wars why? because the herd needs to be culled, because nature doesn't do it anymore, with illness like plagues and starvation we conquer it, we have to do it our selves, population needs to be keeped incheck \
     
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    Taxpayer Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Sometimes, yes.​

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  5. EggKiller

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    Well, we don't need to start wars because other nations don't agree with our opinions. But when other nations don't agree with our opinions to the point of starting wars,,,,walk softly and carry a big stick.
     
  6. ChristopherABrown

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    Sometimes the war happens because some people want it, not because it is needed.
     
  7. Capitalism

    Capitalism Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    When you run out of resources, war is the only option.
     
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    Depends on the war. I also find it very laughable that you try and invoke the whole "God said don't kill" line. Have you ever actually READ the bible? Do you know how many times God actually ORDERED people to kill each other? It was a common occurrence. The fact of the matter is that in this world some people just need to (*)(*)(*)(*)ing die. For the most part these people usually won't just kill themselves, so someone else has to do it for them. Even more unfortunate is that many times these (*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*)s wind up in positions of power and naturally wars end up happening.

    When we were hunting for Bin Laden I had several people tell me "you should just let God handle it and stay out of it." My response to them was always "how do you know me and my brothers hunting down and killing that SOB ISNT God handling it???? How do you know we aren't acting by Gods will?" Think about that.
     
  9. AlpinLuke

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    Need for wars?

    Today Western civilization can [finally!!!] renounce to wars of aggression. If we think well the so called "West" has run the most devastating wars ever [two World Wars, just to think to XX century] because a Western country [or more] decided to attack other countries.

    To be clear: Asian, African ... and so on ... civilizations have showed to "enjoy" wars as well ...

    But now, economically wars are a problem: the weaponry available is too destructive and the aftermath for the recovery wouldn't be an exceptional economical engine [like it was after WW II]. So better to fight local wars, wars of attrition, but no more global large scale conflicts.

    And ... do we "need" those wars?

    I'm afraid we need them. The Western World consumes the large part of the planetary resources to sustain our level of life. So that we have to make commercial trades safe, supplies of row materials sure, strategical areas have to remain under Western influence [oil fields, mines ... great plantation, fishing areas ...].

    So we need at least local wars.

    Otherwise the level of life of the common American citizen would be reduced of a good 60%. Imagine: not enough electricity for air conditioning system, not enough fuel to have more than a car for family, no rich foods [well, this could solve obesity!], less urban illumination, well less products in supermarkets, lower wages ...

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    So I replay "other"

    meaning that generally we can avoid conflicts, but in particular, to grant the continuity of our sphere of influence [and of our Western World] we need to run [or at least to threat to run] local wars.
     
  10. Tommy Palven

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    We don't need wars. We should have let the Axis win WW II. We should have let China take South Korea.

    We gave up on South Vietnam and that worked out very well for Southeast Asia.
     
  12. Tommy Palven

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    We didn't give up real easily. A figure to remember is 7 Million Tons.

    The US dropped over 7 million tons of bombs on Indochina.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_bombs_in_the_Vietnam_War

    And another statistic to remember is that around 55,000 American boys were killed and thousands of others maimed.

    I don't think that we'd like it if someone dropped 7 million tons of bombs on the US.
     
  13. rangecontraction

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    Wars against terrorist countries such as Iran are 100% necessary and justified.

    Unfortunately, we may need to nuke Iran (like we nuked Japan), since the lives saved from nuking them will be greater than not nuking them.

    When we nuke Iran, it is very important to not nuke near the oil reserves, since the last thing we need is global oil price instability.

    Once Iran has been liberated of its Terror, Israel (our best ally) will finally be safe.

    I am generally anti-war, but will support war where lives can be saved on a net basis.
     
  14. Day of the Candor

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    We need to wipe out religious fanatic creeps like ISIS. If that takes a war then so be it.
     
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    the USA will never nuke Iran, as we respect human life and a nuke would kill too many innocent Gentiles.
     
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    We've nuked before and we can nuke again.
     
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    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    what do you mean "we"?
     
  18. ChristopherABrown

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    Uh, you left out environmental impacts of that "level of life".

    Basically you advocate enabling the addict to continue their own, and everyone's eventual destruction by approval of violently compelling those who actually might be living lives with higher integrity towards vital elements of sir and water to give up resource the addict needs to feed their addiction.

    Your fear is well justified but only explained by my post.
     
  19. Ostap Bender

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    Only in case of few sexual occurrences or against seven pagan folks - Moloch worshipers like Peresites, Canaanites etc.

    Bin Laden was a CIA baby, like today's Ukrainian fascists like Porosenko.
     
  20. Ostap Bender

    Ostap Bender Well-Known Member

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    Do not mix a Great Country like USA and cretins who run it the last fifteen years.A dumb Kenyan immigrant Hussein O. can do it, but not most of American people.
     
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    Ostap Bender Well-Known Member

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    Guys, we shall just abolish all provoked reasons for wars, to change our government models to avoid amassing of power by insane people.
    Additional we shall pray to God for possible solutions and help.
    An insane like Hussein O. can indeed start WWIII with Russia, but not Trump or France's Marina Le Pen.
     
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    And when we left, millions of people died. But what the hell, they're just Asians.
     
  23. AlpinLuke

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    Cynical, may be Machiavellian ... but substantially correct.
     
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    We should have never been in that war. Not enough people in south Vietnam cared about that war, winning it. I never knew who the enemy was, for there were more sympathizers than you could shake a stick at. If the majority of the people in a nation do not want to fight off the north, you cannot win such wars. The ruling class wanted to remain in power, but most in the south just did not care.

    So we should be careful in the wars we involve ourselves in. 55,000 lives were lost, some of them my friends and comrades and for what?

    And that paradigm continues on today, useless wars to feed our economy. It is all blood money and evil. Let those in the ME kill each other. We need to rebuild our own nation, clean up our own backyard. Enough of these perpetual war for perpetual peace. Let the other barbarians do their evil to each other. We gotta stop creating new enemies for (*)(*)(*)(*)s and giggles. And profits for the rich whale(*)(*)(*)(*) cowards.
     
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    It is not about need. Wars happen because someone has something the other wants.
     

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