Racism Is TAUGHT. Straight Fact.

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  1. JavisBeason

    JavisBeason New Member

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    he also refuses to stop and help whites on the side of the road, too. Is it racist to not help the blacks, but ok to not help the whites? How can equality be racist at all. He helps all groups equally..... "not at all" is still equal
     
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    Oh, now you're going to act like you put me in some gotcha moment? Try offering all the facts the first time.
     
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    I don't believe this is absolute fact. There's no demonstration that 'racism' (however you want to define it) is never innate. Also, the OP seems to forget that racism can be learned through experiences. The left leaning like to pretend that people, white people specifically, just decided to be racist due to some sort of flaw within them. Keep in mind, their definition of racism is incredibly, and necessarily, broad and pliable. It would appear that racism has become more a tool than an actual concern for leftist.
     
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    What "current event" does this stunning revelation refer to?

    "Racism" has been around for thousands of years, and won't disappear until two things happen:
    1. We successfully interbreed all three races of mankind so that there is no distinguishable racial "type". It will take about another 200 years....
    2. We quit focusing on RACISM, and all the things that divide us, and realize that, here in America anyway, we have wiped out real racism during the past 50 years -- except for one part: we STILL have reverse-discrimination (also known as "affirmative action), that promotes the interests of Blacks over other races for no valid reason at all. THAT is the last vestige of real racism in this country, and it persists to this day!

    Got any interesting videos showing how huge numbers of government contracts are written so that only minorities can even bid on them? Got any videos showing how better-qualified White and Oriental kids were turned away from opportunities so that less-qualified Blacks could take advantage of them...? I thought not.
     
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    Most racism is learned and accepted through observation. It's only so many times you can see the same thug behavior from a group without accepting it's their nature.
     
  6. JavisBeason

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    you were the one that chose to jump to conclusions that he was racist before asking "well, does he apply the same to whites as he does blacks?"


    At this point in my life, I didn't stop for some Mexicans ran off the road in a ditch not too far from the place my brother got stuffed..... at this point, I haven't not stopped for Blacks, or whites in that situation because I have not seen that situation (whites stuck in a ditch trying to dig themselves out)


    For all you know, I may or may not stop for blacks if given the opportunity. Avoiding helping the Mexicans that one time doesn't make me a racist unless I have stopped to help whites after that.... or internalized "if they were white, I'd help"


    For my family, stopping and helping has bit us in the backside. We got lucky as my (then) 19 yo brother didn't get seriously hurt or killed trying to prove to the world he wasn't racist and stopping to help...

    That incident occured in 98. before cell phones were as prevelant as they are today. The next time he saw some big issue, he had a cell phone..... he simply called the cops, reported the issue, and drove on.
     
  7. ellesdee

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    I shouldn't have to ask.


    O-kay... So what?


    I don't stop to help anybody on the side of the road. It's simply not worth the risk anymore.
     
  8. JavisBeason

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    because jumping to conclusions is so much easier, huh?

    I can't help it your default reaction is to shout "RACISM!!!" whenever you see something you don't like.




    it just means, for example... between my brother getting stuffed in a trunk in 98, and when I saw the Mexicans in 06ish, and since that time.... I had zero opportunities to "prove to you" that I won't stop to help whites stuck in a ditch either. You shout "RACISM" because I didn't stop to help latinos. You called my brother racist when you heard he wouldn't stop to help any more blacks on the road stuck in a ditch.... but backpedalled when you later found out he didn't help some whites in a similar situation.

    Too bad I haven't had the opportunity yet, to not help whites, or Asians, or blacks, to prove I'm not racist, huh?




    And that's the point.... why was it racist for my brother to say he's not helping blacks anymore for THE EXACT SAME REASON?

    this underlying politically correct pressure that trains people to think "man, if I don't stop to help this black couple, someone might consider me racist and I don't want that....." My brother got suckered into that way of thinking and he ended up with stitches....
     
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    No, because it disingenuous in a debate to ask a question while holding back information in order to create a false impression of the other's viewpoint.

    Lord, this all should be obvious to a teacher.

    What are you talking about? I didn't call you a racist; I said, basically, that I don't give a (*)(*)(*)(*) about your personal life, and I still don't.

    You're going through an awful lot of trouble to try and convince me that you're not racist, when I've never even suggested you were. Maybe it's not me you're trying to prove a point to.

    Because you couldn't be honest about the situation.

    I don't give a (*)(*)(*)(*) about your brother. Maybe it was karma.
     
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    no, it just exposed your agenda..... before you judge someone, ask a question, try to get all the information. My brother is not racist for passing blacks broken down on the side of the road today. WHether or not he's passed whites in the same situation and drove by them does not change anything about driving past blacks.

    what should be obvious, is now perfectly obvious thanks to a teacher.... you presume people are racist 1st. Your default, your goto is [​IMG]



    extrapolation.... you called my brother a racist when you heard he won't stop for blacks now.... you didn't seem to be concerned enough to see if he applied that 'non-stop' attitude towards all races... you heard what you wanted, and jump off conclusion cliff.... too bad that cliff was bigger than you thought....



    do you also apply this intellectually dishonest argument tactic and accuse those who don't support gay marraige as "closet homosexuals"

    before you bail anymore water out of your sinking ship, try plugging a ffew holes first.....



    I was honest, he won't help blacks.... Apparently, for the race-baiters, I should have to qualify that with "he also won't help whites, asians, mexicans, tamils, cantonese, etc"

    he will help a pretty 20 yo girl though, so you can call him a mysonist if you want, just be careful before you do, because he may also stop to help the ugly girls too. So before you stick your foot in your mouth again making a judgement not knowing all the facts.... ask



    oh the anger of getting called out. You cared enough to say you felt sorry for him, but he's racist in your first post.....


    the backpedal is strong in you
     
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    That was filmed in Glasgow, one of the most impoverished areas of the UK and highlights a point about racism. Racism doesn't have to be taught, it can be developed through personal experiences. Racist views tend to be more common in poorer areas largely as a result of those living in those areas blaming immigrants, or people of other nationalities for their problems. If there is high unemployment for example there will be a tendency to blame immigrants for that. If you can't find a job, and read that immigrants undercut workers and drive down wages then you are likely to develop views which oppose immigration and are likely to develop into discriminatory opinions.
     
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    I could explain this one to you, but I have a feeling you won't understand :) Again, you think it's a black thing, and not a historical thing.
     
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    But they look at graphs made up by "Conservative thinkers" and think education needs no money because there have been no increases in education.

    They don't look at the graphs origin.

    They don't ask if the children are getting smarter with monetary substance. They posts graphs stating children are no smarter than the 50's. 100% of parents can attack this skewed graph.

    The Libertarian born graph states kids aren't getting smarter, but they don't understand it's based on competition with the rest of the world. Take funding away and we will see true results.

    "sorry, no computer today kids. we discovered America...."
     
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    The proper way to put this is our "average" student is not as educated as we want them to be. We still have the most robust tertiary academic institutions in the world. We are heavily weighed down by some very impoverished and uneducated locations. And our standards increase each year, so when they say they are not meeting our standards it does not mean they are getting "dumber" and should stop getting educated. Just means they are not meeting our qualifications of a standard level of education.
     
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    The graph shows American education "wants", you are correct.

    Libertarians and others see kids are getting dumber with more funding.

    Most of us see the problem in this line of thought. Clearly our children are getting smarter every year.

    - - - Updated - - -

    A fun fact for this thread........

    Racist and Bigots don't know they are Racist and/or Bigots. They just know the way.
     
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    The mods moved this to "Race Relations" while allowing racism posts daily.

    My post was informative with structure.

    Racist post are NOT.

    Who does this make you question?
     
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    Not once in there did I say it was a black thing. Liberal policies are holding the blacks and whites down that share those cities.
     
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    I openly admit I will stop and help a white before a black..

    Blacks didn't come to America for fun and freedom, they were kidnapped.
    They were forced to work for no money under STATE laws.

    After slavery was banned, former slave owners and their ancestors didn't know how to treat them. They banned them from pools, education, bathrooms, water fountains, certain seats ETC. They were confused because the slaves just wanted basic freedom.

    After YEARS of oppression the former slave families got angry (anger is a side affect of lack of education). Slave masters did not allow education for a reason. People who think do not like to be controlled.

    Sadly the slaves brought here from Africa only knew what they know and were raised by.

    Oppression and lack of education starts to pile up the next few generations. Being denied of jobs because they are black ETC.

    Us whites kind of made our own mess here and the former flaws aren't the current fix.
    [video=youtube;6CmzT4OV-w0]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6CmzT4OV-w0[/video]
     
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    It's a huge difference between kids aren't meeting educational standards vs kid are getting "dumber" with education. You'd have to prove they'd be smarter without their education. Which, would be impossible. So I know libertarians hate the govt, but to prove public education is making kids "dumber" is going to be hard.
     
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    Actually people are naturally xenophobic to a degree, in that they naturally gravitate toward people who are more similar to them, especially if they didn't grow up around said type of people. People are innately leery about things which are different for evolutionary survival reasons. This is the same reason why animals (such as cats) which are domesticated are sociable, but feral cats fear them.

    Racism is just taking it to an extreme,.If anything people are taught not to be racist by interactions with people of other races.
     
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    Your post argues with itself. And thanks?...heh.


    ONLY SOME people are un-comfortable around others and for direct reasons that have played out throughout history. If you think these perspectives aren't still being played out, you have a big surprise in your future.

    Racism, like everything poltically, is taken to extreme.

    The smart posts die but the dramatic thrive.

    "People are innately leery about things which are different"~ Depends on which type of "people" you are.
     
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    Overt racism often manifests itself as antisocial or criminal behaviour like this Aussie woman and this type of race-related incidents are not rare in Australia. Some people may be more genetically prone to commit petty crimes or public order offences than others and they cannot help it, if that's what they're born with.

     
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    Nope it's human instinct. Anyone saying otherwise is just repressing their emotions.

    People are biologically leery about unknown things for evolutionary survival reasons, for the same reason that animals are.
     
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    Repression?! LMAO.

    My family hates blacks and gays based on NOTHING. As a raised Christian I wondered where their hate derived from.

    I've been fully aware of YOUR PERSPECTIVE my entire life.

    I KNOW you don't understand my perspective, but your attempt to explain your perspective with a "Hee-Haw" approach was funny.
     

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