Driver who refused to work pride bus fired

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  1. Doug_yvr

    Doug_yvr Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    This bus driver in Calgary went public that he wouldn't drive a bus painted with a pride theme. He did this even though he wasn't scheduled to drive it and was specifically told he would not have to drive it. The response was overwhelmingly opposed to his position and now he's lost his job.

    Alberta is fairly right-wing for Canada but has a pretty tolerant outlook toward gays. The Mayor of Calgary is a Harvard-educated gay Muslim who's highly respected. He became the first Canadian mayor to win the World Mayors award, voted on by city mayors internationally.

    Empathy & tolerance 1
    Christian judgmentalism 0
     
  2. KnightoNi1894

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    Sounds like the guy has mental health issues that have nothing to do with being christian. Either that, or the bureaucrat that says the bus driver is lying is lying and the bus driver was told that he might have to drive the bus. Both scenarios are entirely plausible.

    The question is why does any government have a "pride" bus in the first place. What does sexual preference have to do with a bus and/or it's route? Why don't the LGBTQRSTUVs just get over themselves and stop trying to shove their sexual preference in straight people's faces? If they don't want to be discriminated against, why don't they just act like everyone else?

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    Doug_yvr Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    For the same reason they'd have a Halloween Bus or the Santa Express. It's just a bit of fun with the paint job.

    They are no more shoving anything in anyone's faces (unless you've been hit by this particular bus) then heterosexuals are shoving their preferences in anyone's faces when the advertising is directed at straight people.

    It does no harm at all to anyone to have a bus like this. It's the intolerant reaction of people like you that's the problem. Imagine a gay person complaining about a straight ad? Or a single person complaining about an ad for couples. That's how ridiculous you sound.
     
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    I am not a fan of firing bigots because they say stupid stuff. In this case there is more legitimacy to the 'discipline' because it was made public, and dealt directly with work related activity. If I were the decider, I'd let this slide with a write up, because it was all hypothetical, and no one was negatively impacted. He did not have a chance to refuse and presumably the pride bus will be painted and on time.
     
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    would you be saying the same if a pro gun grabber was forced to drive a bus with NRA promotions painted all over it? or how about pro abortionist being forced to drive a bus with pro life promotions painted all over it
    im willing to bet you would be singing a whole different tune
     
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    Not nearly the same, assuming those buses exist in the first place. I've, personally, never seen one. This particular paint job has a lot more meaning, and is offensive to many more people, than anything that's related to a holiday.

    Really? They're, as in the activists, not shoving their sexuality down the rest of the world's throats? When was the last time you saw a "strait pride parade?" This isn't advertising anything. It's making a political statement, and the government shouldn't be doing that. Political statements are the purview of the people. We are the ones that are supposed to be in charge of the government. The only reason to have a "pride bus" is to shove it in the face of people who believe that being gay is a perversion.

    You know nothing about me. You, obviously, have no idea that I work with gay people every day. I don't care that my partner is gay. She doesn't care that I'm straight. It's entirely irrelevant. We both do our jobs, and work together every day. I don't attack her being gay, she doesn't attack my being straight. She doesn't shove her gayness down my throat. I don't shove my straightness down her throat. It's live and let live. It's people like you, who attack others for simply making statements of fact, that are the problem. You assume things, with nothing to back them up, and assign labels to others. I am simply sick of hearing about people being punished for their beliefs. So, who's the bigot now?

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    it isnt offensive to adults
     
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    That's all you've got? Who are you to decide what should, or shouldn't, be offensive to others? You get a well reasoned argument and all you have to say is, "It isn't offensive to adults." Wow...just wow...

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    I would be saying the same thing. Anti-gun people don't get to decide what bus to drive, anti-or pro-abortionists don't get to decide what bus to drive.
     
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    Um Yep, that feigned tolerance and empathy would quickly turn to torches and pitchforks.
     
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    Pride is a celebration of relationships. It is only a threat to homophones.

    This, all by itself, is the funniest statement ever posted on this forum.

    Yes of course. The "some of my best friends are gay" defense. Sorry that statement of feigned empathy is obliterated by the intolerant statements all over your post.

    It's not live and let live as you are judgmental toward her. You just above called her lifestyle a perversion.
     
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    The gay mafia in action. Typical liberal tolerance.
     
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    Should have kept his mouth shut.
     
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    True, in our current authoritarian left wing political correctness, you will be destroyed for what you believe if different from PC.
     
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    Walk around with a chip on your shoulder long enough, and someone will knock it off for you.
     
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    Nope. All of those are similar situations. The bus belongs to your employer, not you. You're just paid to drive it. If you can't do that, you should find another job. Your rights are not violated by a bus company painting what they want on the outside of their bus.
     
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    That is the crux of the matter.
     
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    Since this is not a private company but a government 'company' the people are the employer.
     
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    it is a bus, just a bus......like I said not offensive to adults
     
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    Who said anything about being threatened? There's a good liberal, assigning emotions and statements to people whether they actually express them or not. I said it offends people. That is a statement of fact.
    Why is that?
    Who said anything about being friends? We're coworkers. You obviously don't know the difference between tolerance and acceptance. I, unlike you, think with my mind and apply logic. You, as a typical, bigoted, liberal seem to think that everyone has to accept everything that you deem acceptable. It is quite possible to tolerate something, even if you judge it immoral, and perverted. As a matter of fact, that's exactly what tolerance is. You seem to think tolerance is embracing and accepting something, and, as a typical liberal, you only feel and don't think.

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    more right wing rabid hysteria
     
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    Ah, hadn't caught that part of it.

    It would probably be best if government services didn't put partisan advertising on their vehicles at all.
     
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    Translation: If you don't support the authoritarian PC movement, there must be something wrong with you.
     
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    No. It's the government endorsing and embracing a political statement that should be left to private citizens. A member of the public shouldn't have to ride, or drive, a government owned mode of transportation that advertises a lifestyle that they abhor.

    Knight
     
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    It's not a bus company, it is a bus service provided by the city of Calgary, a political subdivision of the Canadian government. Greyhound is a bus company.
     

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