Continued from this Thread: The End of Abortion in America is Coming Soon No, it just means you people are making crap up. This is the mindset of liberalism. Justifying everything evil and vilifying all that is good. Is abortion a better alternative to life? No. Is promiscuity better than abstinence? No. Maybe the alternative to abortion is not getting pregnant in the first place. Isn't that better, yes or no? Yet liberals encourage promiscuity even though it results in unwanted pregnancies. Why? Because it promotes their agenda of making everything equal. And the only way they can do that is make everything that is good no better than everything that is bad. In order to do away with all prejudice, liberals must stop using all reason and logic. In doing so, they take all that is good and make it bad, and all that is bad and make it good. Evan Sayet says it better than anyone I have ever heard: [video=youtube;Xkyn3JaLrcw]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xkyn3JaLrcw[/video] Sharon Osbourne: Abortion 'Worst Thing I Ever Did' "I would never recommend it to anyone..." Unbreak My Heart: Singer Toni Braxton Faces Immense Guilt Over Abortion, Feared Gods Payback Nine Celebrities Who Have Spoken Out About the Horrors and Regret of Their Abortions
Good example of not using reason or logic. Thank you for proving my point. Evan Sayet was a liberal until 9/11. You should watch the video, otherwise, you'll never get it.
Well, perhaps you can provide proof of you accusations. I haven't found any evidence to confirm them, and doubt you will either. Good for them. It's a free country. Just as long as they don't do it here.
""""""""" It's a free country. Just as long as they don't do it here""""""""""""" You will never see the hilarity in those two CONTRADICTORY sentences. It's a free country but you want to curb that freedom but just for women by having abortion banned !
It is conservatives working diligently to defund Planned Parenthood, and that defunding does nothing but cut family planning money for birth control and education. (For those living in caves or other countries, PP does not receive money to fund abortions and has not for years.) That fact is on the news all day long, please observe. They WILL do it here. There will be a free flow of black market RU-486 over the borders, over the internet, and hand to hand.
Same old broken record talking points. Money is fungible. If you give money to Planned Parenthood for procedure X, that frees up money for procedure Y (abortion). They do 40% of the abortions in the country. A recent audit shows Planned Parenthood Caught Engaging in $129.7 Million in Fraud and Abuse With Taxpayer Dollars. We don't need to be funding a criminal enterprise that is ripping off the taxpayers.
The question is: Is abortion a better alternative to pregnancy/childbirth? The answer is: Sometimes, and only the pregnant woman can really know. For young people, it's most often better. For some of us old people, it's still better. Then why deny comprehensive sex ed to young people, why deny access to reliable and easy-to-use birth control? Oh, please, you're really stretching when you try to blame promiscuity on liberals. Liberals are truly not responsible for human nature. BTW, how many partners are required to qualify for promiscuity? I want to know if I qualify.
That's not the way it works. Abortions are mostly paid for by the patients themselves, with some supplements for the poor from funds donated specifically for that purpose. Federal money paid to PP is mostly reimbursements for medicaid services, and please observe the word "reimbursement", that means the money is already spent, it is not there to shift to other services. Please, please, please, no one can believe a word that "life news" prints, "lie news" simply makes up stuff, PP has been audited repeatedly and never found to be in violation.
Again same old talking points filled with lies and strawman arguments. Abortion is never a good thing. A woman is always better off not getting pregnant than undergoing an abortion. Abortion has many physical and mental consequences that the pro-abortion advocate completely ignore. Only a pregnant woman can really know what it is like mentally to terminate the life of their child. Promiscuity is never better than abstinence. It leads to STI's, low self esteem, and a lack of self respect for a woman's own body. It has social implications such as damaging a girls reputation. Does anyone want their daughter to be know as easy? Does anyone want their daughter to be taken advantage of or put into situations where she could be sexually assaulted or raped? Promiscuity may seem great to someone with a sexual addiction, but by definition they have something else going on mentally that is bad. Arguing against comprehensive sex ed or denying access to reliable and easy to use birth control is a completely separate argument to the abortion argument.
If you want new answers, you'll have to ask new questions. Abortion IS sometimes a good thing, it can save a woman's life, but we all know that for you, that's not necessarily a good thing. Promiscuity/abstinence is not an either-or choice, they are both extreme choices. Comprehensive sex ed and access to reliable and easy-to-use birth control are essential to reducing abortion numbers.
Blahblah blah same old bumper sticker talking points that have been blown apart and discredited many times...
You should never use the word "never". "...45 public audits of Planned Parenthood affiliates, and 57 known audits of state family planning programs, found that a “total of more than $129.7 million in waste, abuse, and potential fraud in federal and state family planning funding programs..."
Correct, that is why actual discussion with some here is so circular in nature, they ignore inconvenient facts and questions and simply repeat themselves over and over not exactly a definition of discussion.
Abortion is very, very rarely if ever necessary to save the life of the mother. That is one of the biggest lies perpetrated by the pro-abortion lobby. Once again, nobody is arguing against comprehensive sex education or access to reliable and easy to use birth control. Why you keep bringing up that canard just goes to show that you are incapable of defending your position on abortion. - - - Updated - - - Wrong. I provided the link in the previous post.
The point is that you have no evidence that it IS true. Tossing out accusations from sources known to be "inaccurate" won't prove the point.
I don't care if you don't like where the facts come from. You can't prove those facts are inaccurate.