The video Carly cried about was actually about stillborn !

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  1. Channe

    Channe Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Planned Parenthood notes that one photo actually portrays "a Pennsylvania woman’s stillborn son, which was used without her permission and falsely passed off as an aborted fetus in an earlier video" by the Center for Medical Progress; the video of a kicking fetus comes from "the discredited Grantham Collection, an old anti-abortion archive based in Florida"; the audio splices together three different CMP stings.

    "This fake video doesn’t show what you have claimed," Dawn Laguens, executive director of the Planned Parenthood Action Fund, writes in the letter to Fiorina. "Simply put, the video you described at the debate does not exist, and the video you’re now asking people to watch is not what you claim it is. This fraudulent video is beneath a serious candidate for the presidency, and you should take it down immediately."

    http://wonkette.com/594388/uh-oh-ly...-parenthood-lie-just-turned-into-a-bigger-lie

    My take - not that facts matter to the religious/far right, but Carly was flat out mislead by a video that was doctored and then propagated the lie. And now that she's been called out on it, she's doubling down. She's turning into the Hillary Clinton of the right wing. Instead of just admitting she made a mistake, she's going to dig a deeper hole.
     
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    I can't imagine that Carly Fiorina is so politically nieve that she would hitch her star to the Right to Life Movement. They're box office poison to just about everyone EXCEPT the religious right.

    And that part of the spectrum has NEVER elected a President, much less secure a nomination for one of their preferred candidates.

    Perhaps she hopes she can play Vice President to the Trumpster, or whichever crackpot emerges.

    Of course, if the cool head emerge, and the nominee turns out to be Bush or Kasich, Carly will have to find an new cause.
     
  3. RP12

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    Could have sworn there was testimony that the only "editing" was taking out bath room breaks and such.. So i dont see the standing of this "splicing" claim.
     
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    .......according to Planned Parenthood. Next up a man named Adolph tells us what those "ovens" really were. Stay tuned.
     
  5. Channe

    Channe Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    The stillborn's mother has already admitted it. You're unwillingness to be moved by facts is scary and sad.
     
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    In the video the woman says the heart is still beating. The picture of a still born is moot and just PP desperately deflecting.
     
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    Geez the religious right makes another false claim yet claims the moral high ground
     
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    Seems you dont know what false claim means either..
     
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    It's not hard to take a moral high ground when it comes to the slaughter of the unborn.
     
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    It isn't hard for the right to take it's "moral highground" when all it's arguments are based on lies and distortions....
     
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    That would be PP's testimony to this point.
     
  12. Channe

    Channe Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    and so you're saying that it doesn't matter that the video Carly referenced was not a PP abortion but a stillborn ? facts don't matter to the religious right. Got it.
     
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    The video exists. Her comments exist.. The picture of the still born is not the picture of the baby the woman was discussing.

    I am Agnostic. Look up the word if you dont know what it means. I am also Independent.. Again another word that might confuse you.

    You again have no clue what you are discussing.
     
  14. mdrobster

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    Still have yet to accept accountability.

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    Yet you have to lie about it.
     
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    You expect a group like PP to admit to anything?
     
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    They have been investigated and cleared, yet RW yahoos keep repeating their own lies. More moral high ground from them.
     
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    They have not been investigated.. There have been investigation in states that do not do fetal tissue sales. There are countless threads on this... Nothing but talking points and insults from you still..
     
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    There continues to be countless lies from the right as well as denial. The investigations have been in the news.
     
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    Has there been a federal investigation ? This is like declaring Hillary innocent because she has not been convicted
     
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    FYI, it is in front of a Congressional Panel as of this moment. I suggest a little more homework.
     
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    Yet the Republicans have often been happy to take the "moral high ground" when it comes to letting men, women, and children die because they don't have cash for basic medical care.

    Let them die if they don't have the money!

    http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politic...eered-idea-of-letting-uninsured-patients-die/
     
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    That's not a federal investigation. Far from it. They have little power
     
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    Go for it. Post links where there was an investigation in a state that "donated" tissue...

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    Hearing does not = investigation. Try again.

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    to which a small number of audience members


    Read.
     
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    i could say what about Obama and all his lies? You guys seem to love those, and even thanked him with reelection. Or I could say maybe Carly Fiorina doesn't know the clip isn't from an abortion. Or maybe planned parenthood is lying, that's always a possibility. But none of that is needed to take the moral high ground on a the genocide taking place inside planned parenthood.

    And save me the "but it's not a baby" bull (*)(*)(*)(*), we both know that's just to help the killers sleep at night.
     
  25. Habana

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    How much money have you given to pay for others health care? Or is you want my money to pay for your health care?

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    What have I lied about?
     

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