Obama falters again on Oregon Shooting Speech

In response to the Oregon shooting, Obama blamed "Congress". It was another failed moment on his part. He needs to call people by name; organizations by name; and start declaring the blood of these victims is on their hands.

If he wants to effect change, he must call these people on the floor and smack them down and stop this "Congress" nonsense.

Anybody else sick of him not actually showing leadership, political and otherwise?

 

Don't these mass murders tear you up? They really shake me to the core.. What do you think Obama should do in terms of leadership to stop this shooters?

 

He could do like most presidents and actually mention once or twice how great America is, even in the face of disaster like this, and use non-divisive and encouraging words, stress how we need to band together in a time of crisis like this and show compassion, love and help to identify those who would do harm and possibly stop events before they happen. That sounds lots better than making it partisan, at least once in a while, you know, like a leader.

 

The first thing he needs to do is to call out the NRA for what it is, a gun manufacturers lobby. The second thing he needs to do is to directly call on the House and Senate leaders to pass a mandatory 21 day grace period and mandatory background investigations for all gun purchases. The third thing he needs to do is call on the same leaders to pass a bill that requires all ammunition purchases to be 10 rounds or less in any 30 day period. The fourth thing that needs to happen is to have a national data base of all ammo purchases in the U.S. Any person to be found purchasing ammunition for 3 months straight gets a visit from law enforcement.

 

Sorry being "non-divisive" isn't worth a bucket of spit, and unfortunately just lets more blood flow unchecked.

 

Like soft soap.. I suppose, but these mass shootings continue to become more commonplace. (I can't believe I said that.)

Back when Reagan was president many hospitals for the criminally insane were closed because of advances in pharmacology.. The thinking was "better living thru chemistry"..... That medication was the answer for managing the mentally ill.

 

I have grown cynical over these mass shootings. I don't believe that anything will be done to curtail this kind of tragedy. If the murder of 20 kindergarteners in their classroom didn't move the country to do something, I doubt anything will.

 

Abdicate

 

10 rounds or less? You've obviously never handled a firearm, let alone fire one.

The 2nd amendment bugs you doesn't it?

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This is ignorance incarnate, divisiveness causes blood flow, togetherness stops it. History has shown us this. Open a damn book.

 

Thank you... At least you have a germ of a plan which is more than we are seeing.. I am not a gun person although my sons and husband had guns for hunting.. But, today.. if my circumstances were less secure, I would keep a pistol in my home..

Gun free zones like colleges and churches seem to be a target for these crazies..

Years ago when I was in the hospital business I discovered that my rural ER docs were packing on duty.. After my initial shock I realized that the Saturday night juke joint violence sometimes followed the combattants into the ER.... and it made sense to me that the docs would carry.

 

Gee how authentic.Obama literally wasting No time in expounding on Mass Shooting.
Deer are more responsible each year for more deaths than via mass shootings { 167 per year }
Why didn't Obama have a word for the Press about the latest Syrian/Isis crisis.
Because Obama has egg all over his face.
What better way to de-conflict than have a News Breaking Mass Shooting event.
I guarantee this Mass Shooting was Staged.Like Aurora,Co. Where The Joker was
sitting in a cop car after the mass shooting and dint even know his name.
Under MKUltra influence.

 

The 2nd Amendment doesn't bug me. There is no 2nd Amendment violation in what I proposed.

Your assumptions about my weapon use could not be further from the truth. 10 rounds/month is more than enough to stay in practice during non-hunting months and more than enough to to have on hunting trips except for small game hunts. I suppose there could be exception on ammo limit if you can show your small game permit.

You know what they say about assumptions? Just take off mptions and you have what it makes you.

 

WTF???

 

First of all, the NRA is not a "gun manufacturers [sic] lobby." The NRA has over 5 million members; there are not 5 million gun manufacturers in the US. But suppose for the sake of argument that it is, how would announcing this accomplish anything? Yet that is your top priority in response to this shooting?

As for the idea that anyone who buys " ammunition for 3 months straight " gets a visit from LE, what do you expect that to accomplish? The result in my case would be that I would buy 3 months worth of ammo in 2 months, and in that 3rd month I would eschew buying any ammo. I expect most other gun owners would do the same. And for those who don't and get that visit from LE, what then? They probably have not broken any law, since it's not illegal to buy ammo '3 months straight." What is the officer supposed to do in the visit other than tip his hat and say 'have a nice day?" What does this accomplish.

 

Like this Unamerican POTUS wasting no time in spreading yer Venom.

 

Obama should denounce gun free zones. Its very simple, idiot gun control freaks actually think that a sign on a door is going to make someone change their mind about shooting up a place.

 

The point is not to try to impede lawful gun owners. The point is to impede a person with bad intentions from being able to quickly amass a large amount of ammo in order to commit a mass shooting. I thought that would be obvious. A visit from law enforcement would, if the cops are worth their weight in SSSS, would be able to figure it the person is a bad actor or not.

As far as calling the NRA a gun manufacturers lobby...it most certainly is. The membership has little to no control over who runs the NRA. The day to day running of the NRA is done by professional executives most of which have ties to gun manufacturers. The nominating committee which directly controls who is on the ballot for election is collection of ex-politicians, lawyers and people with either direct or indirect ties to weapons manufacturers or weapons dealers. It is important to point this out because the NRA's purpose is not secure rights but to ensure there are as few legal impediments as possible in purchasing a gun so more guns can be sold.

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Again with the ad-hom attacks on people. Is that all you got?

 

Obama, who has never explained why his administration was walking guns to the mexican drug cartels, immediately started politicizing these shootings.

 

Perhaps let the victims stop bleeding before speaking of them in the past tense.

Cheers
Labour

 

I'm confused.. do you believe that Obama caused these mass shootings or do you believe in some screwball Manchurian candidate...

Oh I get it.. you think that the shootings were staged as a diversion.

Weird.

 

a lot of people shot guns as a hobby they can expel up to a hundred rounds in a week at a range are they going to get a visit from law enforcement every time they buy enough rounds to continue their hobby?

 

Stop bleeding.. 15 students are quite dead.

 

Quite. Many are in surgery, families are grieving and my president is spinning their loss into the mud of politics before they've even seen the bodies of their children. The man has no shame.

Cheers
Labour

 

I thought his speech was pretty good. There is nothing like gruesome murder to make a ridiculous policy sound more and more reasonable.

 

No. They won't be able to buy that much ammo. I am sorry your hobby of shooting has to be curtailed a bit but it would be an effective way of preventing mass shootings as impetuous act. I don't much care that your hobby has to suffer. A small price to pay for curtailing the majority of mass shooting which appear to be acts of passion.