NRA Commentary Admits The Odds Of Needing A Gun To Defend Yourself Are Infinitesimal

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  1. Bowerbird

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    For a start that is not a journal article but a commentary - someone's opinion

    Secondly there are no assurances in life - one of the victims of the BTK killer in America not only had a gun in his house but had been trained to use it. Did not save him or his family
     
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    that is what I meant by daytime robbery, many are not home during the day, a gun without a human behind the trigger helps no one
     
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    No most people do not want to confront homeowners period and would much prefer to target a house where no one is home. They are often MORE likely to target a house where there is guns because after all - it is easy to dispose of a gun and not so visible as a TV set when climbing out the back window
     
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    As do the current 2A Amendment freaknoids
     
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    These countries you speak of are well on their way to becoming totalitarian... Hell England is already authoritarian - taking peoples guns is an authoritarian action in its own right...

    These countries are not very classical liberal at all...

    Why don't you ponder that?

    I have to go to work so I will further point this out later.
     
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    Gun grabbers appealing to the authority of the NRA.

    rich.

    I'm always amused by how comfortable moral busybodies are in their arrogance...as if it's their self appointed moral duty to define the needs of perfect strangers.
     
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    NRA has no interest in common sense gun regulations that would make it harder for criminals and the mentally ill to have easy access to firearms is an opinion.
    Criminals and the mentally ill are not influenced by "common sense gun regulations."

    The idea that the NRA seems to think they need to address a "lack of enthusiasm for guns among young people" is an opinion.

    The majority of gun violence victims are people of color and many are under the age of 30.
    These are facts....but are fueled by inner-city criminal gang and drug violence and I think it's safe to assume these criminal thugs are not legal gun owners or NRA members.

    Domestic and intimate abuse is a global epidemic and there's nothing the NRA can do about it unless maybe they host a show about how women can use guns to defend themselves against the violent men in their lives....which you'd be against, I'm sure.

    "Noir says this is a gun show “for my generation.”" The majority of gun owners are white, aged 30 to 65 and live in rural areas....so to Noir it probably is about the optics.
     
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    There is a lot the NRA can do about it

    For a start stop feeding the myths surrounding guns in America
     
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    What myths are those, the ones you spew which are all you know of "guns in America" cause you've never been within 9,000 miles of the US.

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    I think that's the most intelligent thing you've ever posted in this forum.

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    The math only works when the data is accurate and equation well reasoned.

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    You know this from experience?
     
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    And that is evidence of what? Looks to me like evidence that everyone should always have a gun on their hip. Is that what you're advocating now, have we changed your mind?
     
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    Well on their way, just a matter of degree.

    Well exactly, when the choice becomes war or serfdom the gun gives you the option.
     
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    If you have to rely on a gun you have lost

    All an excess of guns will do is ensure descent into civil unrest and civil war

    Not a pleasant thing to happen
     
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    You really need some new material, you've said that like 1000 times already in this forum.

    THIS ^^^^ right here is why you will never get it, why you'll never understand Americans, and why we keep having to fight your wars for you.

    You'll never understand what Samuel Adams meant when he said:

    "If ye love wealth better than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom — go from us in peace. We ask not your counsels or your arms. Crouch down and lick the hands which feed you. May your chains set lightly upon you, and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen."
     
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    Civil unrest is what's supposed to happen when a government becomes tyrannical. "The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants." - Jefferson

    I doubt someone who lives under a monarchy would understand.
     
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    So you don't own a fire extinguisher, own a first aid kit, wear a seatbelt, or have an air bag in your car?
     
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    You're definition of "mass killings" must be way off. Even if and I say IF I was to accept your "mass killings" as evidence that UBC would reduce "mass killings" gun control in general has killed many MANY more people, at least 56 million since 1900.
     
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    That would defeat the purpose of the second amendment.
     
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    Even if true it's completely irrelevant, except that it isn't true. Even if I accepted any of the figures, I don't but even if I do they skip one HUGE factor. The vast majority of the instances of guns used in self defense aren't documented. There really is no way to say for sure how often a gun is used in self defense. Most often no shots are fired, no report is taken, it's just done.
     
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    The vast majority of armies in the world have weapons that they never will use in anger. Should they carry spears instead? :roll:
     
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    Tell us of your interpretation of the 2nd Amendment.
     
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    The odds of dying in a random shooting are also infinitesimal, therefore gun control is not needed :p
     

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