Reopening of the Embassy of Iran in Canada.

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  1. DennisTate

    DennisTate Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    In my opinion this is an excellent e-mail to Canada's new Prime Minister as well as to his Minister of Foreign Affairs Mr. Stephane Dion but.......... I personally am not as pessimistic as the author is and I do believe that America's new President who will be elected in 2016 will be able to make good use of a closer Canada - Iran relationship.

    Frankly..... President Obama and his team might just accomplish something important even before November of 2016 if they will find themselves some wiser advisors than the ones that they usually use.

    Mr. Malik Obama is somebody who they should talk to about this. He has some good ideas on how relations between the Islamic world and Israel can be improved.


     
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    Seriously?

    Opening up diplomatic relations with Iran would be a Liberal government endorsement of Sharia on Canadian soil?

    What a stupid argument.

    There are those that think the best forms of communication are a) not to or b) with bombs and blood or c) both.


    This whole "lets not talk to our enemies because <insert heinous crime of choice here>" crap isn't rational, its stupid.
     
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    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    "What deal is it behind the collaboration of the new elected government of Canada and Iran in the world stage to support each other and the readiness to reopen the Embassy of Iran in Canada, is it not an implicit promotion of Sharia Law in the Canadian soil by Canadian Liberals."

    lol!!!!!

    too silly.
     
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    Alucard New Member Past Donor

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    I'm sure the vast majority of Canadians do not approve of Sharia Law.
     
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    nor would they accept Klingon rule.
     
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    DennisTate Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I do believe that there were some advantage to closing the Iranian embassy a few years ago because the evidence that so many of the staff were involved in some pretty dangerous activity is convincing.

    I personally have serious doubts about the Iran nuclear deal and....... a closer relationship between Iran and Canada could help to get some of the more serious bugs out of it.

    http://www.politicalforum.com/polit...418381-could-we-canadians-stop-iran-deal.html

    Could we Canadians STOP the Iran deal?
     
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    Why would we want to stop the deal?
     
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    DennisTate Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    For one thing.... to prevent 150 billion dollars from getting into the hands of people who can hire a lot of willing terrorists with those kind of bucks??????!

    But as you read more of what I have written about this....... I don't actually want to Stop the deal more than temporarily....... to modify it in the areas where it seems to be more seriously flawed!
     
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    Actually......&#8230; there are a number of possible environmental disasters....... that could convince a significant percentage of humanity to be quite interested in the acceptance of the rulership of beings with UFO technology....... who could possibly turn out to have some Klingon personality traits??????

    Frankly....... I personally would like to have some...&#8230; Klingon personality traits....... they really seem determined to go out of four dimensional space - time with honor!

    Rapid cracking and sliding of ice either on the Greenland land based ice pack or in the West Antarctic Ice Sheet are good examples of events that could unite humanity around the idea that our own political leaders are too intellectually cowardly to be entrusted with much more than minor issues?????!

    http://www.politicalforum.com/other-off-topic-chat/338698-will-ufos-assist-bringing-peace-world.html

    Will UFO's assist in bringing peace to the world?????



    I personally am now wide open to this possibility...... but I sure wasn't ready for the idea until I read this part of the NDE account of Christian Andreason:


    (Christian Andreason, chapter 2 of online book) http://www.allaboutchristian.com/spirituality/
     
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    Jonsa Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Whose money is that in the first place?

    Funny how some people's notion of a "deal" is strictly what one side demands and any compromise should be ignored.
     
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    Do recent events in the nation of France make my view on that 150 billion dollars a bit more understandable.........&#8230; but........ yes.... the 150 billion was already money earned by Iranian companies and individuals...&#8230; that is somewhat relevant........ but...&#8230; astonishingly unwise ideas in one area of somebody's world view.............. can make it ethical for government officials in another nation to confiscate all of their assets.

    What do you personally think of the move by the USA to freeze assets by cocaine cartels in nations such as Colombia or Panama?
     
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    You make no differentiation between illegally gotten gains, and legitimate earnings?
    Eventually, the sanctions got Iran to the table in the first place. Its called leverage.
     
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    Whether or not Iranian companies earn money through legal or illegal means......&#8230; once a significant part of that money is invested in terrorism.......... a foreign government can and should freeze those assets in order to protect their citizens from terrorists.
     
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    Really? Then please explain why, after suffering decades of IRA terrorist bombings on UK soil, they ceased. Let me help; it's because we talked with them. Radical idea, I know...
     
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    HUH?

    You obviously misread my post.
     
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    Jonsa Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Not to put too fine a point on the argument, but who exactly determines the extent to which somebody else is "invested" in terrorism.

    Its interesting that Hezbollah for instance is considered a terrorist organization, but apart from attacking their enemy Israel, and fighting in a civil war, they haven't been going around blowing their own people up, or running around with suicide bombs or the like. At least I am unaware of said behavior. How are you aware of the extent of this terrorist financing?

    is it wrong to finance the enemies of your enemy?
    In which case, America and the EU and Russia and everyone else is equally as guilty. Perhaps a world wide seizure of all their assets would improve the lot of the planet and keep you safe.
     
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    DennisTate Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I think that you are basically correct but........... certain statements by Iranian leaders should be discussed publicly and responded to.

    https://word.office.live.com/wv/Wor...66141:AQBFUfPEUFJgKNh-&title=Revised+Article!

     
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    In my opinion it is a ridiculous letter. Accusing the Liberals of implicitly introducing Sharia law into Canada is profoundly stupid and beyond rational thought. One too many Antons perhaps? Canada cut off relations with Iran in 2012 in a fit of ideologue right wing zaniness, closing the Canadian mission in Iran and giving Iranian diplomats in Canada a few days to get out of the country.

    Engagement, dialogue and yes, diplomacy are far more valuable than an outright cut-off of all contact. Canada was always better than this, until the previous regime came into power. Thankfully they are gone and both nations can hopefully get back to the business of diplomacy and engagement.
     

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