Gun-Toting Protesters Held A Rally Against 'Islamization' Outside A Texas Mosque

All the attackers known at this time are French and Belgian nationals who were born in those countries. They also happen to move around freely under EU laws.

 

How is it not?

cult (kəlt/) - noun
noun: cult; plural noun: cults

a system of religious veneration and devotion directed toward a particular figure or object.

 

21,000 firearm suicides every year!

 

Have met a few gun collectors - none seemed to view the things with "devotion" or "veneration". They like guns like I like VGR - as an investment. Most gun owners I know have them for protection - they sit in a drawer forever - unless they are needed.

They say Marines like their rifles - never met a soldier who did. PIA to lug around, damages your hearing when you fire them, hard to maintain - but you certainly do not want to be without them if you need them.

There may be exceptions, but your characterization of gun owners really is a fantasy.

 

You come across as a butt hurt Christian every time religion is mentioned in this thread. Feeling a bit oppressed lately? Yes, no, maybe?

 

Would you feel better if they all jumped off of bridges?

Table 10 Number of deaths from 113 selected causes, Enterocolitis due to Clostridium difficile, drug-induced causes, alcohol-induced causes, and injury by firearms, by age: United States, 2013

Accidental discharge of firearms (W32-W34) - 505
Intentional self-harm (suicide) by discharge of firearms (X72-X74) - 21,175
Assault (homicide) by discharge of firearms (*U01.4,X93-X95) - 11,208
Discharge of firearms, undetermined intent (Y22-Y24) - 281

Total: 33,168

Drug-induced deaths (2,3) - 46,471

http://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/nvsr/nvsr64/nvsr64_02.pdf

There are 13,303 MORE drug induced deaths than folks dying as a result firearms.

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Would you feel better if they all jumped off of bridges?

Table 10 Number of deaths from 113 selected causes, Enterocolitis due to Clostridium difficile, drug-induced causes, alcohol-induced causes, and injury by firearms, by age: United States, 2013

Accidental discharge of firearms (W32-W34) - 505
Intentional self-harm (suicide) by discharge of firearms (X72-X74) - 21,175
Assault (homicide) by discharge of firearms (*U01.4,X93-X95) - 11,208
Discharge of firearms, undetermined intent (Y22-Y24) - 281

Total: 33,168

Drug-induced deaths (2,3) - 46,471

http://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/nvsr/nvsr64/nvsr64_02.pdf

There are 13,303 MORE drug induced deaths than folks dying as a result firearms.

 

if you are interested in preventing deaths then might i suggest first banning vehicles and poison

Or, is your agenda guns?

 

Why do Hoplophiles always deflect when faced with the carnage that their fetish causes?

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Why do Hoplophiles always fallaciously assume that everyone wants to "ban" their festish?

 

fetish? please elaborate

the statistics are there. Since you focus on guns which ARE NOT the top cause of deaths, then it's obvious that reducing deaths is not your agenda.

 

You come across as a common vulgar bigot, but I suspect it is just a juvenile reaction to political expediency that will pass with the election. But there may be another explanation - were you an alter boy Liz?

So far you have not been able to provide any evidence of a religious connection to the news story under discussion. Which may not mean there isn't any.

 

http://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/2014/06/daniel-zimmerman/p320-entry-gun-fetish/

Most people purchase guns as fetish items. You’re probably already reacting from a defensive perspective to that statement: “My gun is not a fetish item! It’s a tool. A proud heritage. That which keeps me and my family safe.” And all of those things may very well be true, but is that why you purchased that gun? Or are those just the justifications? . . .
Before I go on, let’s talk a little bit about the word fetish. It’s a loaded word. To most people, it immediately invokes sexual fetishism, which inevitably pushes a lot of people out of their comfort zone. That meaning of the word is actually fairly recent, dating only back to the turn of the last century. Originally, the word fetish referred specifically to objects used by indigenous peoples of the Guinea coast as magical amulets.
As befitting its heritage as a word used to describe magical objects, the word holds similar power today. It’s used to refer to any object that carries unusual psychological weight. Imagine the difference between a gun and — arbitrarily — a stapler. Pick the right gun and the right stapler and they are of similar size, similar weight, and they are both broadly classified as tools. But which carries more psychological weight? Which is more celebrated in prose, in cinema, in song? You see my point.
Often gun owners are asked why they feel the need to have a gun when the chances of them needing to use it are so vanishingly small. A standard response is, “I don’t expect to have a fire in my house, either, but I have a fire extinguisher.” The not-so-subtle argument here is that a gun is a useful tool — just one that is not useful that often. Which is a fair enough point, but people don’t moon over their fire extinguishers the way they moon over their guns. You don’t read about people being “proud owners” of fire extinguishers. People don’t clean and polish their fire extinguishers regularly (most people can’t even be bothered to replace fire extinguishers on the recommended schedule). People don’t take their fire extinguishers out and gaze lovingly at them while they write articles for The Truth About Fire Extinguishers.
What’s ridiculous to me is not the fetishism — which I understand and support — it’s the desperate attempt to hide the fetishism. Perhaps people feel the need to hide the fetishism because it would make gun rights harder to support. It’s easier for a politician to take away your guns if you say “I own this because I’m fascinated by it” than if you say “I own this because I need it to defend my life and property.” And in the political fight for gun ownership rights, it is doubtless prudent to downplay the fetishistic nature of guns. The gun world is not devoid of people willing to confess to their motivations. You don’t have to look far on a gun forum to find someone saying “I have a gun because it’s wicked cool.” The point I’m trying to make is that is a much more common motivation than people are willing to admit.

http://www.salon.com/2013/12/14/our_sick_gun_fetish_is_destroying_us_tea_party_fantasies_kill_kids/

http://www.truth-out.org/opinion/item/19620-the-powerful-pornography-of-the-gun-fetish

 

It's funny how all the people are white....how come we see no blacks or Asians ....whites must have a thing to be bigots.

 

They think gun control is a good political issue. They are correct - but not for Democrats.

 

Do you really think guns cause suicide?

 

I don't see islam destroying anything in America.

That's not what our freedoms are for. We invite those who are allowed here to take part in our freedom and exercise their rights to religion, choice and speech. We don't enforce things upon people.

Give me valid evidence such places exist.

 

Where did they get their orders from? Who helped them within France? Who financed it?

 

You made a thread about it, clearly it bothers you. Good thing no one's ever violent at a protest and self defense is never an issue (sarcasm )

 

Bigotry bothers me, not guns.

 

Then why mention them?

 

Then toughen up butter cup.
Not everyone likes the same thing you do.

 

Because it is a relevant topic on a forum where I am an active member?

 

IT was a Belgian guy named Abdel-Hamid Abu Oud. He was born and raised in Belgium. His own family wanted him dead.

 

To start with...treating woman with respect... not like leftovers in the refrig.

 

A terrorist's nationality is irrelevant. Any ISIS or Al Qaeda wannabe can convert to Islam anywhere and blow themselves up in the name of Allah. Ask the Saudi and Egyptian hijackers from 9/11.

 

Actually, it is. As for conversion, anyone can convert to anything. Iglesia ni Cristo is established here in the United States, but originated in the Philippines while spreading to other parts of the world. Apologetic Christians call this group a cult and have warned people of the Christian faith to stay away from this group. But the point I am making is that being converted has much more to do with personal issues than with doctrine and how certain organizations can use psychology to make it easier to convert. This is why wealth gospel preaching is so popular in the United States and is primarily taught in the mega churches here, despite the fact the Bible does not teach this form of the gospels.