Seriously….. What would it take for a GOD to prove itself? (Part 2)

It seems likely there is something after our deaths, and obviously many certainly hope so. What it might be we do not know and thus speculate, imagine, and often create what we think it should be...this is how the human mind works. It seems equally if not more likely that any "God" would be a manifestation of this and is clearly a creation of culture and society. I think the NDE phenomenon is a real experience that takes place within our minds and can have profound impacts upon it, my own mother became a different and spiritual (not religious) person after she was dead for 15 minutes and returned.
Each of us are individual people who will experience individual and unique things from an NDE and each will be real and impactful should we be lucky enough. Everyone is correct in spirituality and if we all accepted this this would be a far more peaceful and happy world.

 

Oh, I'm not knocking your skills. I just wanted to talk to you about something on my mind, but I know you like to calculate things in your head before a JOB and I don't want to distract you with other things.

This needs to wait. NEEDS To wait!!!

 

Ignorance by G-d's own people...… on subjects such as climate change....... will cause them to be somewhat more humble within seconds or at the least minutes after they pass on or have a memorable near death experience????!

I quote you again here...… I so thank you for explaining this to me..... like so many other Christians what you wrote was almost entirely new to me.......

Relevant to this topic.... AboveAlpha...… if the death toll from climate change over the next two centuries is less than five billion lives...… would you say that that would be evidence.... that there must be some sort of off the scale intelligence or guiding power that is concerned about human lives????! Not to mention much cattle???? (Jonah 4, if I remember correctly)

We could even worship based on the fact that twenty percent of the USA and Canada are not already under water...… in comparison to the possible time line indicated by the Helen Wambach Ph. D. and Dr. Chet Snow research?????

http://www.politicalforum.com/showthread.php?t=331904&page=43&p=1065685513#post1065685513

CO2 causing oceans to acidify at 'unprecedented' rate, scientists warn

 

Understand that if the North Atlantic Current Heat Exchange STALLS....we are talking about an Ice Age occurring within 50 years.

That would kill easily over 2 Billion people!!

The resulting wars after would kill another 1 Billion and disease and starvation perhaps another billion.

But there are 7 Billion people on earth and we are more than capable of surviving an Ice Age.

AboveAlpha

 

why, because YOU say so?

 

One of the basis of Christianity is faith. Believing without proof. For God so loved the world that he gave his only begotten son. That whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. John 3:16 Understand now?

 

No...not at all.

AboveAlpha

 

Ive had a NDE and I can say that I didn't see the light and Revelations wasn't explained to me. I had an overwhelming sense of peace, joy and acceptance. All of these feelings preceded my fright of death and comforted me. I consider myself intellectual and I over analyze most of the time, but it is what it is. It was what it was and my experience just compounded my belief in a God and led to an understanding as to what he is. God is always with us and speaks to us through our personal consciousness. He uses signs and our convictions to guide us. I have always had a connection to nature. God created everything and speaks to me when I connect with nature. God is not an enemy, not to be explained and not to be denied because that is his nature and his relevance. Anyone who says that the meaning of life was explained in a NDE is full of crap.

 

There is only one way a person actually can be considered DEAD.

End of all Brain Wave Activity.

I was CLINICALLY DEAD...as my heart and lungs stopped working but I was brought back.

The only people who can be brought back with zero brain wave activity are people who say...fall through the ice into cold water and their brain wave activity ends.

If they are warmed up slowly and then shocked they can come back and most of the time there is brain damage but sometimes a person can fully recover.

THOSE are the people that have actually DIED.

AboveAlpha

 

I was listening to CBC radio on the way home from work about a year or so ago and a doctor was explaining the new treatments developed in Europe to revive people after certain types of accidents.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/health/620609.stm

Skier revived from clinical death

We are in a fascinating time period when more and more cases like this are being reported.

I assume that at least thirty percent of these extreme cases will report something pretty astonishing like was perceived by Pam Reynolds.


http://www.near-death.com/science/evidence/people-have-ndes-while-brain-dead.html

I am convinced that cases such as this are helping our world to transition from a paradigm of......…


Jeremiah 6:13

… to a world where the norm is more like...........


Jeremiah 31:34

Howard Storm, back in 1985 was shown that the Creative Intelligences behind our universe - multiverse.... want to help us make this transition in two centuries...… so by 2185!

 

Wow!!!!!!! I so thank you for sharing what you personally got out of your NDE!!!!! Wow!!!!!


Near death experiencers also seem to have a surge in psychic ability...… and afterward seem able to psychologically profile people at a level that us ordinary civilians cannot hardly begin to imagine.

My wife is one of the seventy percent of near death experiencers who cannot remember her brush with death at all. She had preeclampsia really bad during the birth of her second son from her previous marriage.

Her ability since that time to read people utterly astonishes me!

May I ask if you are given a positive or negative impression of the words of this other near death experiencer who reports seeing a future lifetime about five centuries in the future.... who feels that her role is to "break chains and set captives free" and help humanity to make the transition over to a truly utopian world with much much much less bloodshed and mayhem this time

around????

http://www.politicalforum.com/polit...rencies-finance-films-address-problems-6.html

(posts #53 -57).... one particular comment about the future of five centuries jumped at me in a special way because it seems as if somebody may actually have developed a green energy device that will soon be used all over the place.......?????

D.S. continues........

Those hexagonal bricks sure sounds like.........???????????

http://www.solarroadways.com/intro.shtml

 

Another near death experiencer reports being shown a past life...… as one of Rabbi Yeshua - Jesus' disciples.

What he reports is on another level altogether from anything taught by any TV evangelist that I have ever heard!

In my opinion.... over the next 17 centuries his book can play a massive role in transforming the relationship between the "Christian" and "Islamic" nations. Pages 137 to 170 of his book...............… contains information that will humble us Christians.... and help us to realize that what we thought we understood... we may not have known as well as we thought.......... and our opponents need a little more credit than we tend to give them.......

http://www.thomastwin.com/6 A Thomas background.html

His book can play a huge role in setting the stage for a series of events viewed by a gifted Pentecostal woman who I assume has spiritual gifts much like my wife has been given????!

Denominationalism within Christianity tends to produce a culture ripe for democracy so...............… this has got to be a good thing!

 

… but....... I have found over these past four decades of attempting to follow Rabbi Yeshua - Jesus that I receive confirmations that indicate a surge in what I could describe as "guidance!"

I notice synchronicities in my life....... and I feel a sense of peace - Shalom...… that I am certain I would not be experiencing if I had not began to pray....... and attempt to meditate.... on what I think I am being shown by my Messiah -Savior - protector - guide!

How many people do you know whose wife........ was told by Yeshua - Jesus that he was going to be her husband...… and then he tells her to fast and pray for me for 35 days...… having never met her future hubby?

I was 3000 miles away from her....... experiencing Shalom - peace unlike ever before in my life but especially wonderful considering that the past decade had been seriously rough!

I opened doors to the spiritual realm back in 1990.... and in the year 2000 Maria Jose was told to fast and pray for me......…

 

Interesting posting. Thanks for writing it.

Many people (correctly) describe Jeshuah as a Rabbi. Even in the Christian NT it is reported that people called him "Rabbi". Of course, back then, it simply meant "learned man". However, it also meant that he was married and had at least one child.

So, who was Jeshuah's wife?

 

Wow!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

This so well corresponds with what Helen Wambach Ph. D. and Dr. Chet Snow discovered in their research!

http://www.carolmoore.net/articles/helenwambach.html

To my thinking....... this sure seems to be one possible form of anecdotal verification for your variation of multiverse theory??????!

http://www.politicalforum.com/relig...osophical-implications-multiverse-theory.html

The Philosophical implications of Multiverse Theory?



I have suspected for about fifteen years that that time is not limited to being one straight line but instead branches.

Over in another thread I just received a very specific and pretty amazing explanation for this that is in the language spoken by high level theoretical physicists.

If........ you and I have been thinking seriously about changing our diet, becoming more physically active, well now we have another possible motivator?!

The new and improved version of you and I may well get to live out life over and over and over again many times over nearly infinite time in the future, for each time that a moment within our lifetime is recreated and time is spun off in a new possible direction based on different choices that we are all free to make?!

 

CORRECT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

According to Bruce F. MacDonald Ph. D. Mary - Myriam of Magdala was probably the wife of Rabbi Yeshua - Jesus........ according to what he was shown during his NDE and his meditations afterward.......... One of the reasons why....... his true friends and followers would not speak about the children of Rabbi Yeshua - Jesus and Mary -Myriam of Magdala is so that the Catholic Church of the coming centuries would not go off on a total project to exterminate all traces of them........ So they had to be hidden..... but there is indeed much much much more to the story..........

Isaiah 53:8

http://www.politicalforum.com/relig...hy-reincarnation-edited-out-christianity.html

Why reincarnation was edited out of Christianity?

and........

http://www.politicalforum.com/relig...longer-believe-virgin-birth-jesus-yeshua.html

I no longer believe in the Virgin Birth of Jesus/ Yeshua!



I did until December 2012 when I read The Thomas Book Near Death and a Quest for Another Gospel by the Twin Brother of Jesus.......

This book has the potential to transform the relationship between Jews, Christians and Muslims!

.....................

For the record I purchased the Google version of this book .... only about eight dollars......and was very impressed with the final product........... I have already read it twice and plan to read it again soon... especially from page 107 to the end of the book which is all about the hidden and suppressed teachings of Rabbi Yeshua - Jesus!

Hint.... Rabbi Yeshua - Jesus had an experience in life that will sure remind you of the Book of Hosea!

 

AboveAlpha..... as I think you already know....... .I consider you to be in the top ten of my all time best friends even though I have not yet met you face to face!

I was recently given a prophecy......… that I take very seriously........... but....... there is a negative side to what I was told about my role in life. I was told that I have some sort of "Cyrus" calling - gifting - mantle - destiny but..... ancient King Cyrus of Persia was naive....... and fairly easy to deceive............… The Prophet Daniel was good at showing Cyrus how some of his advisors were doing magic on him..........

http://www.drbo.org/chapter/32014.htm

I copied and pasted the message that was given to me into this discussion....... notice post #9.......

http://www.politicalforum.com/canad...have-decided-leave-canadas-liberal-party.html

AboveAlpha..... may I copy and paste a message from the same prophetess...… to you Sir..... into that same discussion?

Of course...… I have something in mind that will fit with this...........


http://www.christianforums.com/thre...cans-from-a-canadian-and-a-thank-you.7653888/

Some of my ancestors were Masons from Dixie who came to Country Harbour, Nova Scotia at the time of the American Revolution. I deeply appreciate the fact that so many Americans were closer to God than we Canadians tend to be and somehow your leaders were guided to not persecute us!

I also wish to apologize for the fact that the leadership of my nation was less guided by the Holy Spirit and we did not understand how the independence of America was comparable to the division of the Northern Kingdom of Israel from the Southern Kingdom of Judah at the time of King Rehoboam the son of Solomon.

I also wish to apologize for our elitism because it has been playing a significant role in your economic crash of 2008. If a higher percentage of Americans understood the full implications of truly wise monetary policy the world would begin to look quite different indeed!

 

Right now my goal in life is to keep my 3 fridges stocked with Beer, Champagne, Hard Apple Cider.....and plenty of ice cubes!!

And keep my Bar stocked with all Top Shelf goodies!!!

AND.....to buy new Martini Glasses!

AboveAlpha

 

what are the consequences, if the bible was written by the devil.... does God punish one for an eternity for believe it to be written by God?

I mean who would talk to you through a burning bush of fire.. a God or the Devil......

who would kill every man, women and child but a boat load.. a God or the Devil......


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Dennis,

I didn't want to post about this until AboveAlpha came back from his job. Because I thought it wasn't safe for me to tell this tail until the dark forces who might come for me were eliminated. And the sign I was supposed to look out for was when AboveAlpha came back from his JOB.

(But then my medication failed, my paranoia went through the roof, and I spent the last 2 weeks in a Psych ward of a hospital.)

(So now, considering my frame of mind at the time, I don't think I have to worry about telling this story.)


Okay, so that time I went somewhere with the aliens for a day, when the aliens weren't looking I slipped though a hole in the universe. And there was some kind of congregation and I was brought up to the front stage and a device was placed on my head, and it connected me to my entity. I was to speak for it.

One of the things I learned about was that there were other similar entities looking over other planets. But the person who was left in charge there was lying to those entities and had directed them to KILL all the aliens so that only humans would ascend.

That person needed to DIE!!! Little me I was going to step in and say that perhaps it was all a misunderstanding, but the big me entity held me still and told me that it needed to be done.

It wasn't easy watching this take place, but fortunately I wasn't the one who had to do the killing. Some new people are in charge now, intelligent people who my entity trusts.

The other thing I learned was that some Extraterrestrials were modified in order to support the ascent of humans. Now the congregation said, they were going to reveal themselves soon, and they were going to kill the aliens who were bothering me because they never ascend in any timeline and the Extraterrestrials were using the congregation's technology.

Little I went pleading to the big entity, I was connected to, to find some way to help the aliens so that they'd live. And it turns out that the entity had saved a timeline from before the one E.T.s, I was visiting, was modified, in a major way, one where they ascend, and the entity was holding on to it for safe keeping. The entity also had some other timelines/ divergent states saved from when some other Alien species were modified in a minor way. Those were all returned to the universe.

Some other things happened, things that happen on the other side after the Universe ends. I'm not sure it's appropriate to reveal them at this time??? They contain some major spoilers for puzzles the big Entity places on the other side to test the worthiness of people who make it to the afterlife...


Anyway, when I was done I was allowed to escape from the aliens by selecting any timeline/divergent state where I existed. I didn't have to go back, and my life was in danger there, but I chose to go back to where I came from, to give some satisfaction to the E.T. (because I was told they weren't yet compatible for an afterlife in this timeline), but I twiddled the timeline a little so I didn't die, but otherwise I was going to have a tough time of things. However, I thought it was worth it to help the aliens.

 

My medication failed me and I spent the last 2 weeks in a Psych ward.

So with that frame of mind I guess I don't have to worry about what I was thinking about before.

What I was going to tell you was that I thought I was going to be "disappeared" soon. I thought, at the time, that it was always going to happen, I was just given a little extra time to sort out my medical issues, as best I can. But that the time of my vanishment was getting very close now.

When I thought that, I was hoping it was not too late to arrange some terms, like what happened in the other timeline.

I was aiming for:

When I'm removed from my medication I need to be restrained for everyone's safety. at least at first.

I need frequent bathroom breaks.

Can I have time to visit my family? It doesn't have to be frequent, and it doesn't have to be weekends and holidays. Just once or twice a year should be sufficient. (This should be enough to keep me alive and presentable.)

Can I get paid for this? I want to maintain the appearance that I'm just working for a hard boss who makes me work weekends and holidays. I just want to send money back to my family, and perhaps for other expenses.

Well that was about all the terms I can remember of what was troubling me.

The only thing I would want this time around would be a connection to the internet so I can keep up with world events. But this is completely optional. I realize I might not be in a state that is compatible with such things.

 

What can seem to the vast majority of us as mundane events...... can actually have much deeper meaning.

Somewhere around 24 - 28 C. E. Rabbi Yeshua - Jesus probably induced an out of the body experience through fasting........ He reports meeting one of the major fallen angels who decided long ago to begin something of a war with his grandfather and grandmother Adam and Eve.

In the light of what tends to happen during an OOBE or NDE the account of Matthew chapter 4 can look quite different.

YOU..... my friend......... may have accomplished far far far far far more through those events.... than you or any of the rest of us here can fully imagine at this time!

https://www.blueletterbible.org/kjv/mat/4/1/s_933001

Mat 4:8

 

Wgabrie.... you will be glad to know......

http://www.politicalforum.com/religion-philosophy/438123-if-you-had-one-question-ask-god-10.html

If you had one question to ask GOD.

 

The ones who look foolish to me, are those that consciously choose not to understand the world they live in. Tell me: what is the difference between a god that is undetectable, and no god at all?

 

Wgabrie...I am very sorry this happened to you.

As you know I have a great deal of knowledge specific to Pharmaceuticals and I used to teach PSYOP's.

You should always check with your Doctor but if you PM me with the list of Medication you are taking and let me know a few other things about you such as BP, Cholesterol, Serotonin Level, Triglycerides, Family Medical History, Diet and Exercise....etc...I really think I can help you.

But please any suggestions I might have MUST be checked with your Doctors.

AboveAlpha

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Nothing!

AboveAlpha