Bakery pays over $135K for refusing to make cake for gay wedding

http://nypost.com/2015/12/29/bakery-pays-over-135k-for-refusing-to-make-cake-for-gay-wedding/

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The owners of an Oregon bakery who denied service to a same-sex couple have paid more than $135,000 in state-ordered damages – months after refusing to do so – according to state officials Monday.

Aaron Klein, co-owner of Sweet Cakes, by Melissa, dropped a check off for $136,927.07, according to the Bureau of Labor and Industries. The payment includes interest. Klein also paid $7,000 earlier this month..........................

Damages were award in July for emotional suffering caused by the bakery which refused to make a wedding cake for Laurel and Rachel Bowman-Cryer ...............

The Oregonian reported the state has received a total of $144,000 from the Kleins.

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Well, the bakers have paid the money for hurting the feelings of 2 lesbians. Given that penalties and fees were being added, it's best to pay it now and get it back later. I wonder how once this case gets to the SCOTUS, and it's deemed unConstitutional what was done to these 2 Christians, how do they recover the 135 large from the lesbians?

The homosexual commissioner who levied this egregious punishment made it clear that his intent was to "rehabilitate" the Christians from having an opinion about gay-sex which differs from his own.

I'd like my fellow posters to let the $144,000 just sink in for a moment. 2 lesbians were told that they could have a cake, just not decorated for a gay wedding. They claim that their feelings were hurt because 2 Christians who prominently display crucifixes and Bible verses within their shop could not support the celebration of gay-sex. There is also something more nefarious at play here and that is the homosexual commissioner who appears to want to punish the Christians and his public comments were that he wants to "rehabilitate" them.

This should scare the bejeezus out of anyone be you a liberal or a common-sense American. This happened in leftist Oregon but the opposite could occur and a homosexual could be punished for not creating banners or cakes which read "homosexuals should be put to death".

When you support the fallacy that choosing the homosexual lifestyle is akin to sex or race, you strangle the rights of others.

I can't wait until this case makes it to the SCOTUS with a Republican POTUS administration.

 

I am a Catholic so that makes me a Christian. But that is not why I oppose gay marriage. "Gay " marriage is not logically or biologically normal. That fine is outrageously excessive and it never should have been imposed. What I also find is that you lost my sympathy with me when you use a partisan fecal matter storm as your basis for your opinion. The SCOTUS should not decisions based upon which party is in the WH or which one controls the Congress. It must be as the founding fathers set it up - a balance and check on the powers of the other two branches.

I am a registered Republican but I find you rationale regarding the SCOTUS deplorable. We need to be Americans first and not Democrats or Republicans first.

I hope that you mature someday and rethink your childish partisan thinking and positions.

 

The damages is, as in many American court cases, excessive. That’s a general issue not unique to this case. It doesn’t change the fact that the business owners broke the law.

You’re lying to yourself if you really believe any Supreme Court under and administration is going to rule that being religious grants exemption from following any law you don’t agree with.

 

I think the punishment is just dandy, and if it were twice that amount, I wouldn't mind it one little bit.

As I'm always looking to expand my education, tell me how one "chooses" to be homosexual instead of straight because I'm unaware of how exactly that works. I've always heard that it wasn't a choice - it just ... well ... 'was'. Links would be nice if you have them as well.

 

From where I come from, people choose to take their pants off.

Suing someone to force them to do something they believe is wrong sounds very much like something Lenin would do don't you think?

 

well gee thanks and you probably by sheer luck stumbled upon the truth. This case should NEVER have occurred. Christians are punished because feelings were hurt. There is this thing called the 1st Amendment and given the way the SCOTUS has been ruling of late, they are swayed by the administration so as righteous as you try to portray yourself, you must be realistic. A Republican administration will help restore the Constitution. it is painfully clear that a Democrat admin chooses to urinate upon the Constitution

 

Good! The owners of "Sweet Cakes" learned a lesson the hard way that discrimination in America does not pay. The owners of the bakery should have known better. They get no sympathy from me.

And if the U.S. Supreme Court decides to hear the case regarding "Sweet Cakes," it will most likely be another 5-4 decision with Justice Anthony Kennedy condemning the discrimination.

 

Bet money if they avoided the muslim bakery and figured the Christians were fair game. Christian bakeries should post signs: "10% of all profits are donated to the Foundation for Traditional Marriage". That might motivate the trollers to do an about-face and head elsewhere.

 

Well, yes, that is true, but how is it that one "decides" whom to do that for?

The bakery was not following the law. That's why they were sued and that's why they lost. It has nothing to do with what they "believe" or disbelieve. If they cannot follow the law as bakers, then they should find some other occupation.

 

Except for choice, what are the other possibilities for being gay? Somehow we've come to accept homosexuality and transgenderism as normal. What biological facts can be provided to prove this is the case?

 

Most of those happy with this want everyone to 'just live and let live'. Let people do what they want to do. Until something like this happens, that is. Then a point has to be proven and all of a sudden it's not 'live and let live'.

If I had been the couple I would not have wanted the couple baking a cake for me anyway if they felt the way they did about my 'marriage'. Geez just go somewhere else.
But that wasn't part of the plan?

 

Man, I should have sued that tiny Mexican food place I was kicked out of for being white. I would have made a pretty penny.

Of course those poor souls running the joint would have been put out of business, probably jailed(I doubt they could have gotten that much money, it was a super tiny joint), all because I got angry.

Tolerance is accepting that it happened and moving on. That's what I did.

 

Both are normal variations of human sexuality and gender, which is an easy concept to understand and even easier if you're not hindered by the belief that a deity hand-made everything to be simple and wonderful.

 

In other words it's a fetish.

 

Clearly abuse of power. The owners' freedoms have been violated.
Ask yourself this:
Were gays denied from shopping at another bakery?
Were gays denied from opening a bakery?

 

Yes hypocrites like you always want to force your beliefs on others in the conduct of their private affairs.

All the while you have never uttered a peep about homosexuals being legally murdered by the followers of Islam.

Seriously find another primitive country to live in that suits your regressive ideological views

 

Feelings weren't hurt as some have posted, but rather the law was broken. The bakery is not a religious organization it is a for profit business and therefore must comply with anti-discrimination laws. If this were a church they are protected by freedom of religion, but not as a for profit business.

 

Emotional Damages for someone named Cryer.....

Fitting.

 

So you think I should have sued that poor, immigrant, restaraunt owner into submission?

Do you think I was tolerant or intolerant of their beliefs in my response to their racism?

 

And while you clearly care nothing for justice, you care a great deal for the law, at least insofar as it is consonant with your prejudices.

 

Taking a devils advocate approach do you realize that once upon a time in a place right here in the USA there were people sued forced to do something that they thought was wrong - they believed that integration was wrong and they even tried to use the Bible to bask up their "beliefs". Suing people or forcing people to do something that they believed was wrong is not something that only Lenin did he was just one of a bunch of evil DB's in the procession of history.

 

It is a bad law. Repeal it. I hate the attitude that we the people are made to serve the law and not vise versa. We made the law and we can undo it, as well.

The penalty here is excessive. Enshrining malicious, destructive fines and penalties into law won't change the fact that people see this for what it is.

This is a misuse of government and I don't see it much differently than other forms of intolerance that have been enshrined into law in past decades.

Gay marriage is legal now. The war was won. Now we're just terrorizing the losers. We get it, you're gay. Go get your cake somewhere else.

I am mixed race. A close friend of mine, a white man, told me (when I asked) that he does not want mixed children. He wants white children and wouldn't procreate outside of his race even though he casually dated outside of it. Did I take offense? Did I nix our friendship? Nope. He was a groomsmen in my wedding. That is tolerance from both parties. You don't have to agree with everything to get along ffs.

I posted on this article before and my position hasn't changed: someone in this group of 4 (the lesbians and the Christians) should have resolved this inside of the store. It didn't and shouldn't have to go this far. Someone could have exercised some tolerance. I'm not saying which party should have, but these are all adults and this is pretty pathetic.

 

I think the reason they were really offended was the fact that the bakery does not make a "poop" flavored cake!

 

I really wish you did sue and won because I never ever heard of such a thing as being kicked out of a restaurant for being White. What race were these Mexicans who owned or managed this restaurant ? Where they Black ? Central or North-American Natives? I am just being curious because you bring one odd story before us and it really sounds interesting. Please more details !!!!!

 

Liberalism is all about intolerance.

It's who they are. It's what they do.