Ben Carson Confronted at Town Hall: 'Do You Think I Chose to Be Gay?'

Per capita its not even close.

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Again the stats are from a government study. If you cant attack the message attack the messenger.

 

WND is right wing trash. you need to find a peer reviewed study supporting your argument. I suggest you read this paper as a good starting point.........http://www.drryanhall.com/Articles/pedophiles.pdf

this is an actual peer reviewed paper, that destroys your claim.

pay particular attention to this portion.................

 

The stats may be, but the interpretation of them is from WND, which has long been discredited as a dishonest source pandering to right wing partisans who eschew facts.

In short, the summation presented is not supported by the data.

 

Is it implied that the person who asked this question would have liked the opportunity to have chosen differently?

 

dismissing them doesn't somehow alter reality.

 

so 2 16 yr olds can't have sex. Gotcha

 

No it does not

http://www.emaso.com/links/extra/frightening_gay_statistics/frightening_gay_statistics.htm

 

Can't do that. Why don't me make everyone proove they are an informed voter while we are at it

 

Because tests like that are explicitly outlawed in the US.

 

I was not born liking Chinese food. It was not until I was offered it that I acquired the taste.

As a teenager and twenty-something, I hated coffee. I now can't get enough.

When I smell coffee brewing I have to have a cup.

Gay sex is no different. Your upbringing and environment exposed you to the wonders of gay-sex and you probably can't even recall what it was which made you consider gay-sex as a choice.

As for me, it was a completely heterosexual upbringing with no homosexuals, no girly-men, momma's boys etc around me.

Girls were all girly.

Maybe if uncle Jimmy played hide-the-tongue with another guy in front of me I might have thought that to be normal and OK behavior and given it a try

 

No its statistics. In statistics you chose the statistics that best represent the reality. When making comparison with vastly unequal samples you do relative comparisons not absolute. That is how you represent reality. Not the bull(*)(*)(*)(*) you are trying to pull.

In what world do you actually think you are better than me at this. If you have learned anything its that I'm smarter than you especially when it comes to science and math.

 

Just like how you weren't Hetero and weren't attracted to girls until you had sex with one right?

 

So are you saying that tests for voting who runs this country should be outlawed but tests for having sex, causing pregnancy, and possible spread of disease shoundnt be?

 

How bout this. Just answer my root question. Is pedophilia a natural born with trait or is it a disease of the mind?

 

Por que no Los dos?

 

until such time as you plunge into a swimming pool you can't be called a swimmer

Word games are OK in order to justify what you do.

Most of us could care less who you choose to sleep with. It's your business but that is where it ends. It's your sex life and it's not akin to sex or race.

People should not be punished for not wanting to participate in celebrations of the gay lifestyle

The CEO of Mozilla donated to a pro-family cause and the homsoexuals attacked.

The majority of good, decent and moral people know that there are some out there (3.6%) who choose a deviant sexual lifestyle but we do not target you and wish to punish you. We just fail to see how your chosen sex life entitles you to special benefits.

 

yes, the statistics of homosexual pedophilia are quite damning, thus why homosexuals avoid the discussion as opposed to tackling the problem which exists within their subculture

 

So you don't care who people sleep with, you just want them classified as mentally ill so they could be legally forced treatment? How is that not utter bull(*)(*)(*)(*)?

The guy who you are condemning in the other thread was instrumental in ending the standard of forcibly confining gays in mental institutions and you are condemning him for it. Yet you want to claim you don't care about who gays have sex with?

Which side were you on in regards to Lawrence v Texas?

 

I actually think Carson responded brilliantly and I would've had a harsher response. "Do you actually have a question that's worth my time? Or did you waste your own gas traveling to this event?" This is politics, not "pat my back" day. Whether I think being gay is a choice or not is irrelevant(and YES, I do think it is.)

It's very philosophically simple: We don't take off our clothes for any jock. We have sex for a myriad of emotional, philosophical and romantic reasons. All of which compels us. To think you didn't "make" the choice is to essentially strip consent from every person on planet earth. So, the question isn't inherently on whether your sexual orientation is a choice. Of COURSE it's a choice.

Basic human interaction is a choice. The real question, is whether a person should be discriminated against for the choices that they make. They shouldn't and so basic human rights should be assured to all. But make no mistake, it's a choice. Not a bad or a good one, whether it's good or bad is up to the individual in question.

 

do you hold the same opinion on homosexuals

 

Considering their actions do not harm others, no.

 

Which was in response to comments that Carson has made on the subject in the past. Like it or not, it's a political topic and one used by both sides to leverage voters. Plus, it was a town-hall style event, it's expected that the some folks in attendance would speak their minds.

Gays are theonly sexual group who seem to think they are a product which needs to be advertised. Flags...bumper Stickers...etc etc. It seems a big show for them, and it really doesnt help with their claim of not choosing it.[/quote]

That's because the negative stigma created and maintained by some in this country tends to cause people who fall into whichever group the stigma is about to band together. Isn't that the same thing that all the anti-gay groups have done? They may put on a public face of being about family values but in reality everyone is there because they are heterosexual and those are the heterosexual groups. What about religious groups? Don't they do the same? Why does it only matter for "sexual groups"?

I have absolutely no idea. The two examples I used were simply the first two conditions you're born with that came to mind. It wouldn't be hard to find groups centered around congenital conditions. Here's one:

 

more BS from you about forced treatment

autistic children are not forced into treatment. Loving parents seek to get treatment.

Alcoholics are not forced into treatment (except after a crime)

Over-eaters are not forced into treatment

What this gutless Dr did was to create a slipepry slope that opens the door to "normalcy" for every deviant sexual behavior.

Despite zero medical proof, claiming that it's normal to have gay sex and that one is born that way thus opens the door for pedophiles, necrophiles and every other deviancy to use the same claim.

Let's run with this

You claim that you were born homosexual
You claim that you cannot help it and there should be no laws against it (there aren't anyway)

will you make the same claim for pedophiles?
Do you agree that they were born that way?
Do you agree that they can't help themselves and that there should be no laws against acting on how they were born?

Let's see if you're a hypocrite.

That is the door that was opened by the gutless Dr

 

Typical liberal. Use ends to justify the means. They are the same and your afraid to admit it. Who they are attracted to does not matter just that are the anomale, something other then the norm of regular people.

 

Thats just it though...is it really a political topic anymore? USSC gave the Gay Community what they asked for...why are we still dealing with these Gay Activists trying to make headlines. Enough already, why care what someone like carson, or anyone thinks about it at this point. It's over, why not go celebrate?


Answer: because as stated for years, it was never about just equality in marriage...it's about trying to change thought. marriage is now in their pocket, yet they're still trying to browbeat guys like Carson into changing their mindsets and opinions to suit their narrative. They wont be happy until everyone sees no difference between a Man/Woman and 2 Males.

Heck...even then maybe they wont be happy. i dont think many of them are rally happy with themselves, so they wont be able to stop poking the hive.

No it's not the same at all. "Anti-Gay/Heterosexual groups" dont have flags and bumper stickers and symbols.

Fair enough.