Migrant Rape Fears Spread Across Europe

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  1. Edial

    Edial Active Member Past Donor

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    From your article there were 4 Syrians and 5 Iranians, that's 9. Plus 9 of the Algerian and Moroccan (African) origin.

    So where is the inconsistency?

    These are people who left their country to look for asylum.
    And all of them filled out the paperwork which qualifies them to be defined as asylum seekers (unfinished paperwork).

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Refugee
    A refugee, according to the Geneva Convention on Refugees is a person who is outside their country of citizenship because they have well-founded grounds for fear of persecution because of their race, religion, nationality, membership of a particular social group or political opinion, and is unable to obtain sanctuary from their home country or, owing to such fear, is unwilling to avail themselves of the protection of that country; or in the case of not having a nationality and being outside their country of former habitual residence as a result of such event, is unable or, owing to such fear, is unwilling to return to their country of former habitual residence. Such a person may be called an "asylum seeker" until considered with the status of "refugee" by the Contracting State where they formally make a claim for sanctuary or right of asylum.
     
  2. Jonsa

    Jonsa Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Pretty well documented by right wing bloggers and such. Over 1,000 muslim men (how does anyone know they were all muslims, or they were all asylum seekers, or they were immigrants)? did they sell tickets?

    And if you want to deny the majority of this group the benefit of the doubt then I think its pretty damn clear where you stand.




    But wait. How do you know that a small minority of muslims are committing a disproportionately high amount of crime?
    Where are the crime statistics that include religion?
    Which jurisdictions in Europe track crime by race or ethnicity?

    About the only "evidence" you have is debunked "analysis" from anti-immigrant, anti-muslim, far right bloggers and the various sites that regurgitate such nonsense without any validation or confirmation.

    In the absence of such verifiable crime stats, there is only anecdotal evidence, and "feeling".

    I find it interesting that you think I am apologizing for Islam, when what I am actually doing is supplying facts to counter the bigoted and paranoid narrative of people who think they know because they read anti-muslim sites and lap up the crap on RW media.

    If standing up for equal treatment of everyone regardless of race or creed, based on actual facts is being progressive, then count me in as a proud one. You know, equal rights for all regardless of how inconvenient or afraid it might make some.
     
  3. TCassa89

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    None of them (the Syrian, Iranian, Serb, and American suspects) were asylum seekers (or refugees). There were 18 asylum seekers in the mix of suspects, but they (the 18 asylum seekers) were from Algeria and Morocco, and none of them were refugees.

    "Asylum seeker" is not one in the same as someone granted refugee status. An asylum seeker can also include an economic migrant (in contrast to someone of refugee status), but more importantly, an asylum seekers is an applicant, and NOT someone who has been accepted refugee status. As your own source addresses, people who haven't yet been accepted refugee status are asylum seekers until considered with the status of refugee by the Contracting State where they formally make a claim for sanctuary or right of asylum

    Again, none of the suspects were refugees, and those who were asylum seekers were from Algeria and Morocco
     
  4. tidbit

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    Greatest Rape in Swedish History



    SWEDEN: Horrific gang rape of 29-year-old white mother of two by Muslim asylum seekers in Swedish refugee camp.

    Seven-hour non-stop gang rape by 12 Afghan MUSLIM refugees was the 'most gruesome rape marathon in Sweden's history,' say prosecutors. The rape was oral, anal, and vaginal, with up to three rapists in her at the same time. Only 7 of the 12 rapists were convicted.
    The other Muslim onlookers were clapping and cheering and calling the woman a "whore" and a "slut," how Muslim men describe unveiled women. The victim is now confined to a wheelchair, suffering severe mental distress. The Swedish media concealed the ethnicity of the perpetrators and quickly removed the story. Swedish socialists say it would be "racist" to deport the rapists. No wonder, Sweden is now considered the rape capital of the world.

    Read more at http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=4cd_1354203918#QiemLkLhWEAAoXTl.99

    If white men did this kind of gruesome thing it would have been front page news in every paper in the western world.

    There is a preponderance of evidence of immigrant men raping white women who the Muslims believe are whores because they are not covered head-to-toe. If you deny that there is a problem with Muslim immigrants raping white women, you are either in denial, or you are an apologist, and therefore part of the problem. It is a sign of a lack of empathy (a sociopathic trait) for the women and girls that are raped when people like you to deny the facts, and change the subject.
     
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    We are talking about the rape, sexual harassment and robbery of German women at the hands of foreigners. It is outrageous that you find it necessary to mince words about whether or not these foreigners were refugees or not. Your lack of empathy for the women and girls involved is very telling.
     
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    tidbit New Member Past Donor

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    disingenuous, disgusting, callous, anti-white bigots, arrogant, pathetic, sociopathic and delusional are people who refuse to call a spade a spade.
     
  7. RiaRaeb

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    So you have no verifiable crime stats and result to insults instead, classy!

    Two women were raped in the UK on New Years Eve, but since Muslims were not involved it hardly made the national news! Looks like the world is only interested if you are raped by a "immigrant" truly revolting.
     
  8. mister magoo

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    Gimme a break...blind freddie can see that women are raped by muslims all over the world.
    Talking to people who defend this is like trying to nail jelly to a wall.....hopeless.......
     
  9. RiaRaeb

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    There sorted it for you!
     
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    As I said like trying to nail jelly to a wall....
    Muslim men rape because they follow Mohammed word for word...they cant and wont
    control their sexual urges....
     
  11. RiaRaeb

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    Some Muslim men rape because they cannot control their sexual urges, just like all the other sad bastard rapists in the world, do not give anyone any other excuse or motive.
     
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    The world has grown to expect it from muslim men...
     
  13. RiaRaeb

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    Maybe in your world, but the world outside knows that add a few pints of alcohol to some men, and you have a sexually abusive potential rapist on your hands especially if he is with a group of like minded drunken mates, and it is regardless of race,creed or colour. I worked too many years in pubs and clubs for anyone to convince me otherwise. Those men who choose to rape or sexually assault a women do so regardless of what their religion or society says, they are sick, pathetic bastards.

    But as I stated, still no verifiable statistics to show that Muslims or any other religious group(or even none religious) are more prone to rape.
     
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    That's it in a nutshell. Bit like the Catholics being against contraception?
     
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    They don't dare to rape in their homelands because they fear the consequences; they don't fear any consequences here, so we could see more of it.

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    I don't think many women go out of their way to attract rapists.
     
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    Got any verifiable statistics to back up your claim? Personally I would be happy for much more draconian sentences for rapists in the UK.
     
  17. Pycckia

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    Consider Rotherham.
     
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    Consider Jimmy Savile.
     
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    Don't you think the British governments ought to do something about the Pakistani rape gangs? Why do you think they don't?

    Why doesn't the Swedish press write anything about immigrant sexual abusers in Stockholm?

    http://nyheteridag.se/exposing-majo...cologne-like-sex-crimes-in-central-stockholm/

    Don't you have even a twinge of conscience about helping to cover up immigrant crimes? Are Muslim immigrants more important than the safety of European women?

    The whole thing is blowing up in your face. Do you think it is just going to blow over as these organized gangs of Muslims immigrants get bolder and bolder?
     
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    so you dig up a story from almost 5 years ago, where 7 men were convicted and 6 will be deported at the end of their sentence. The woman in question gave lucid evidence and there are no Swedish reports of her being confined to a wheel chair or of mental illness. If she was also so badly injured as to be confined to a wheel chair, there would have been additional charges and longer sentences.

    I don't deny there is a problem with some muslim male immigrants wrt cultural differences concerning women. In this case a married woman escorted by another man who thought nothing of partying with them. No woman deserves that kind of horrific treatment anywhere, yet unfortunately it happens all over the world, perpetrated by all kinds of ethnicities, with the common factor being that the perps are all men.

    I am not denying any facts at all. In fact I am demanding facts. But for some reason the people who keep spouting this narrative of rape capital and rapes all committed by muslim immigrants, can't seem to come up with any supporting facts, other than anecdotes of a handful of crimes that fit their prejudiced perspective.

    Is the problem of muslim immigrants raping white women (newsflash: most of those muslim immigrants are Caucasian as well) any different than the problem of white men raping white women? Or god forbid black men raping white women? Or any damn race raping any woman?

    Preponderance of evidence? why am I not surprised that in some people's world "preponderance" means any scrap?
     
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    so you dig up a story from almost 5 years ago, where 7 men were convicted and 6 will be deported at the end of their sentences. The woman in question gave lucid evidence and there are no Swedish reports of her being confined to a wheel chair or of mental illness. If she was also so badly injured as to be confined to a wheel chair, there would have been additional charges and longer sentences.

    I don't deny there is a problem with some muslim male immigrants wrt cultural differences concerning women. In this case a married woman escorted by another man who thought nothing of partying with them. No woman deserves that kind of horrific treatment anywhere, yet unfortunately it happens all over the world, perpetrated by all kinds of ethnicities, with the common factor being that the perps are all men.

    I am not denying any facts at all. In fact I am demanding facts. But for some reason the people who keep spouting this narrative of rape capital and rapes all committed by muslim immigrants, can't seem to come up with any supporting facts, other than anecdotes of a handful of crimes that fit their prejudiced perspective.

    Is the problem of muslim immigrants raping white women (newsflash: most of those muslim immigrants are Caucasian as well) any different than the problem of white men raping white women? Or god forbid black men raping white women? Or any damn race raping any woman?

    Preponderance of evidence? why am I not surprised that in some people's world "preponderance" means any scrap?

    If you are excoriating all muslim immigrants for the crimes of a few criminals, why aren't you excoriating all legal gun owners for the crimes criminals who possess such? See how that works?
     
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    Rape fears spread in Europe, and these are the people Obama want to bring here. How do Obama's supporters explain this?
     
  23. Pycckia

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    Muslims outrank women, especially white women, on the Political Correctness scale.
     
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    Consider this article and set of facts:

    http://www.breitbart.com/national-s...-victim-to-200-lashes-and-custodial-sentence/


    This is the level to which the Muslims take "Blame the Victim of Rape".

    The seven men involved were either given no sentence at all, or two to seven years in prison, with parole reduction for good behavior possible.

    None of the Men where lashed.

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    While discounting Rotherham child abuse scandal: 1,400 children exploited by Muslims.
    www.nationalreview.com/.../386467/rotherham-rapes-muslim-connection...
     

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