The US should consider reparations to African-American descendants of slavery

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  1. ChoppedLiver

    ChoppedLiver Well-Known Member

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    Yeah, I can, Bro.

    I posted this a few pages back. You obviously missed it.

    It's history that you'd probably just want to sweep under the rug and forget about, just like all the revisionists do...

     
  2. Jim Rockford

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    First thought was, hell no! But after thinking for awhile I decided that the Americans could play a small part in making things right. Like providing one way tickets on cruise ships.

    Africans captured , enslaved their brethren and neighboring tribesmen. It was these Africans that sold their product to the highest bidders in slave trade markets in Africa. Did Americans sell and trade them again on arrival , yes, but they arrived as merchandise not as freemen. So the culprit is obviously the African Slave Traders. Now if we want reparations would it not make more sense that these out of place descendents of slaves want to reclaim their homeland and tribal lands? The slaves were never from America nor sold into slavery by America, they were wronged and had their African lives stolen from them in Africa.

    America provides transportation to Africa, a couple hundred bucks spending money and full head of education and proper life style , and Africa pays the American Slave decendants with land, much more money and natural rights of African natives. Reparations are the African slave traders burden. America set these people free, Africans enslaved them.
     
  3. Esau

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    they didnt sell brethren. You are on about ibo being captured by white slavers, the ibo qere the ones taken to America and they never capture or sold themselves
    Africans didn't sell any ppl to white slavers until decades after the first white slavers arrived on the west coast bringing death and destruction, seeking gold and free labourers. They were resisted at first but eventually, after white slavers had destroyed all of the coastal cities and began invading inland did the Africans surrender . This is where Africans were coerced into a so called trade at the point of a gun. They made that sacrifice. You wouldn't know this because white academia is gravely bias in favour of white slavers, this is due to white tribalism and their racist culture that was to "blossom" in conjunction with the TA so called Trade
     
  4. theunbubba

    theunbubba Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Great point. Any African nation that doesn't want to take these people as natural born citizens should have their government overthrown as bigoted and insensitive to the problems they caused. We should set up governments run by slave descendants and redraw national maps to help Africa recover from the excesses of Britain, France, Portugal and Spain.
     
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    So, should blacks compensate Israelis for the enslavement of their ancestors?
     
  6. Esau

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    Israelis aren't descended from Israelites, nice try though
     
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    TrackerSam Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You want a whole country that looks like Detroit?
     
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    theunbubba Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Seen Sudan lately? Ethiopia? Libya?
     
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    Dispondent Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Responsibility for what? That ship sailed, only the most pathetic and wretched scum of the Earth would attempt to profit off the suffering of their ancestors, and that's all this call for reparations is...
     
  10. Jim Rockford

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    That would be a major step up. Modern capable factories surrounded by hard working AfricanAmericans IN CONTROL OF THOSE FACTORIES they should be the greatest nation on earth. They make it sound like every natural resource to be found in the world can be found in Africa. Building Chevys and Catapillars tractors for domestic and export will be extremely profitable next to the resources of steel, energy and manpower with a domestic market untapped yet.
     
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    From the way I understand things, only a small percentage of Americans owned slaves Mostly the very rich landowners. Then there was the many owners that had a heart and treated the slaves as family and cared for and educated them. Those that helped slaves get to the north and live free. All those in the north that let them be free. The decendants of those people should feel guilty and pay? But these reparations are going after all Americans not of African decent. None of my ancestors were on the north American continent when slavery was active either. What guilt should most Americans feel ? The majority by a long shot have no guilt what so ever. Which is why I would help them prepare and to return to Africa and nothing more.
     
  12. Medieval Man

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    Pretending to be English? Posturing? Because I use proper grammar and don't speak ebonics? If I happen to be black, is this where you tell me to quit acting white? We are indeed doomed.

    I'm really hoping you only have a high school education, as your written word displays the skill of a middle schooler, at best.

    Trying to sort through your 'jibberish' again, you didn't raise any points in your response to me. The only response you've provided me is, your nonsensical "Yes, its frightenening that ppl aren't subscribing to the outright jibberish being passd off by white academia. They should be ashamed at being exposed as utter frauds"

    Perhaps you have me confused with someone else? Because you really didn't say anything and were vague in your assertion that was nothing more than an opinion.

    Want to try again? In English this time?
     
  13. Esau

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    So you dont like jewish ppl either? Because they all wantwd reparations and that's how they got it, by uniting and lobbying
     
  14. GeorgiaAmy

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    America doesn't care. The post was a small illustration of groups of people being treated all over the world since the dawn of man.
    Concern yourself with the atrocities happening today instead of the ones that have been rectified.
    If current trends continue, whites will be the minority in the US. I can't wait.
     
  15. Esau

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    Right back at you son, right back at you. Move along.

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    They haven't been rectified. In fact the problem has morphed and America still allows and has slavery today, its written into the constitution
     
  16. Dispondent

    Dispondent Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    What are blathering on about? The jews get reparations from the people that actually victimized them, the reparations end when the last survivor dies. Using them as an example there is no basis whatsoever for modern reparations for blacks in America...
     
  17. Medieval Man

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    You still haven't told me what points you are referring to. Perhaps I need to go back through this thread to read what you've written to others? You seem to have a large number of detractors here who believe you're foolish, so you have probably confused me with someone else.

    But no worries! Since we're here, and you obviously missed one of my posts from earlier in this thread (post 245), perhaps you can chew on this and tell me your thoughts:

    What do you think? Win – win, right?
     
  18. Merwen

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    Squalor is what you deal with when you first colonize a new land. Less adventurous souls wouldn't understand that.
     
  19. Merwen

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    I am waiting breathlessly for your exact linked quote proving this.

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    I can; don't you see they are just revving themselves up to behave in a racist manner themselves?
     
  20. Esau

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    more. give them 40 acres each, like you promised. thanks, good doing business.

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    its been posted before, the fact that you didnt know is both shocking and saddening, what has been hidden in small print.
     
  21. Esau

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    read the 13th amendment carefully.
     
  22. Medieval Man

    Medieval Man Well-Known Member

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    C'mon son, expand on your answer a bit. I'm always seeking to get into the heads of ignorant leftists, especially those who espouse a black supremacy vibe. Is $50K enough for you to go away? Would the payoff be adequate for people like you to quit your constant whining about social justice and all the other nonsense you're alway carrying on about?

    Heck, not to tip my hand, but I'd be willing for Fed. gov to pay $60K to make you ignorant fools go away.

    Also, it was actually supposed to be 40 acres and a mule. You forgot the mule part...
     
  23. Tipper101

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    Problems that I see in all this:

    1) Logistics. How do you quantify the impact of slavery that's been a dead institution for the last 150 years on the current population of African Americans? How do you then place a monetary/compensatory value on that evaluation? How do you then take into account those who've never had slavery roots(such as those who immigrated after), or those of mixed race?

    2) Morality: There is nothing moral about reparations towards those who have not experienced the suffering to which reparations are being paid, by those who have never committed the offense to begin with. This is like my dad having hit your dad, so you get to hit me back and we call it even....only worse.

    3) Positive impact? There is no evidence that any of this will solve any problems whatsoever currently experienced by African Americans. Any more so than what we've seen by electing the first Black President. The problems stem from the breakdown of the family, drugs, race-peddling inflammatory leaders, and a culture that celebrates violence, drugs, sex, and anti-authority through music and pop culture.

    Indeed, their problems have only deepened with Obama. Go figure.

    3) Slippery Slope: Where does all this stop? Do we do Native Americans next? Japanese Americans from WWII internment? Chinese Americans?


    Simple: never repeat it.
     
  24. Esau

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    Wrong! All German taxpayer money is funding the multi million dollar settlement, even my grandma's sister is paying for ir and she never hurt a flea.

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    40 acres will do, thanks in advance. Hope we can do business again, right??
     
  25. Esau

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    For someone, i.e. a child, to not commit a crime again they should be punished. If they are not punished then they will repeat, no doubt. America, the child, has never been punished for her crimes, ever, because they run the international courts, therefore they continue, to indiscriminately bomb foreign nations, with impunity.
     

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