How we will build Trumps Wall.

Okay. Deportation is not a punishment to US citizens. So can we report you to Honduras when you have done nothing wrong?

 

why would they do that, if they are legal for work purposes?

 

It isn't my fault you haven't got a clue what the 14th was created for and why it says what it says the way it says it. They were never intended to be US citizens. If not for the robber barons and their need for slave labor it never would have been misinterpreted. I'm a legal citizen, not an illegal trespasser. Pretending not to understand the difference is extremely dishonest.

 

The child of an illegal immigrant born in the US is a US citizen (based on the text of the 14th and multiple USSC precedents) yet you claim they can be deported. So why can't you? Enjoy your time in Honduras. Don't get killed in the murder capital of the world that you want to send children to.

 

Yes I know it is obviously misinterpreted for the rich/elites to exploit cheap labor. Why do I need to keep repeating this? That misinterpretation has absolutely nothing to do with the original intent of the 14th. I'm a legitimate citizen, without misinterpreting the constitution.

That is where they belong. They should either rebel or fix the (*)(*)(*)(*) in their own country. We neither need them or can support them. Sorry but the life boat here is full. I'm all for destroying any and all dictators in the world. Thought that was what the UN was created for. Unfortunately it is nothing but a debacle for civilization.

You want to fix problem, I'm listening. You just want to trash the constitution and destroy what was built here, you have said enough.

 

What cheap labor do babies born in the US provide?

 

Babies born in the USA 'legally' don't. The illegal aliens who bring their unborn children here to take advantage of an irresponsible misinterpretation of the constitution provide cheap labor to criminal employers who exploit them for all they are worth. But you knew this already.

 

All babies that are born in the US are born legally. Can you name a single law that makes it illegal for a baby to be born in the US?

I've already said kick the parents out. But there is zero reason to send a US Citizen child to a hellhole with a murder rate higher than those found in some warzones when they have done nothing wrong.

Saying "they should be with their parents" makes no sense unless you also support sending children to prison with their parents if their parents are convicted of crimes.

 

That is pretty arrogant to judge other countries like that. They may be poor but then there are many poor country.

 

So (*)(*)(*)(*)ing what?

 

Now you are claiming that "ALL" illegal anchor babies come from Honduras? Generalize much? There are already procedures in place to protect legitimate refugees, seeking political asylum, but well over 90% of the illegal aliens entering this country do not fall under that category. Living in a 3rd world hell hole isn't part of the criteria, and moving here to make this one, shouldn't be an option either.

If you have a plan to make these countries safer I am all ears, unfortunately making the world a safer place isn't on your agenda.

We have covered this already, continuing to repeat myself while you play a game of denial, and pretending to be stupid is really getting old. If you would like to talk about the 14th and what it actually says and means, we can continue, but you actually have to start comprehending the original intent, and why it is worded the way it was.

 

Intent matters (*)(*)(*)(*) all to me. I care about the actual text. It why I disagree with Progressives when they say the 2nd Amendment is only for the militia. The 14th Amendment gives citizenship to anyone born in the US under US jurisdiction. The children of illegals are US citizens until such time as the 14th is repealed.

It is morally wrong to deport US citizens who have committed no crimes.

 

they can choose to go into foster care or choose to go with their parents back to honduras

 

Should children also be able to "choose" to go to prison with their parents?

 

The 14th Amendment gives citizenship to anyone born in the US under US jurisdiction. RIGHT! And the words under jurisdiction means citizens of the United States of America, not any criminal who can make it over the border without being caught and having a baby. That is the original intent of the wording. You are doing the same thing as the gun grabbers with the militia misinterpretation. The 14th was written concerning black slaves who were born under the jurisdiction of the USA, not illegal aliens bringing in their illegal babies, in hopes of grabbing a golden ring because of a criminal act.

You want to fixate on the wording without understanding the actual intent. If they had intended to include anybody who fell out of a vagina on American soil they wouldn't have included the disclaimer of under the jurisdiction of... They would have just said anybody born on US soil, but we all know that was never the intent.

 

So the US government does not have jurisdiction over illegals? So then we can't prosecute them or put them in prison for crimes.

 

they get put in foster care. If the parent did something wrong they should be punished for it. Having children should not excuse you from consequences.

 

I agree 100%. Children of illegals should not be deported period.

 

i would say give them a choice. They leave voluntarily if that is their choice. If not then foster care. Always better to have choices.

 

Why not give children the choice of going to prison with their parents?

 

So you are looking down on poor people. Sad.

 

Most, if not all, of Donald Trump's ideas are terrible. Who will build the wall will be low-paid immigrants. There is nothing in building that wall that will benefit us. We will get stuck with the $9 billion dollar bill for the wall, but Mexican immigrants will build it; and, to top it off, the wall won't work.

 

We have jurisdiction over the laws of the land and when broken we can punish all criminals, and one a criminal trespasser completes their punishment they are released and deported back to the country have jurisdiction over them as a citizen. You (and others) are mixing your apples and orangutans. Under that logic all an illegal alien has to do is break into the country, and as a criminal they are under our jurisdiction and therefore a citizen. All this ignorance because bought and paid for judges distort the constitution to allow an illegal work force for their masters, and you condone that exploitation as well. Just unbelievable.

 

I'm looking down on high crime areas that have murder rates higher than Baghdad at the height of the war.

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Under our jurisdiction does not equal citizen. Legal residents and people under temporary visas are subject to US jurisdiction and they are not citizens.

What children born in America are part of an illegal work force?

 

Exactly. The only way to stop this illegal invasion is to stop misinterpreting the 14th amendment, turn off the free stuff faucet, and aggressively with extreme prejudice fine, incarcerate, and confiscate/auction off all ill-gotten gains (personal and professional) from the criminals who continue to hire them, illegally.