If Hillary is elected President....

A member of my family works at a US embassy in a European country and is a Clinton supporter. That's enough for me. He knows what really went down and how security works and says she did nothing wrong. If her actions caused four deaths that's still a hell of a lot better than a war based on lies that killed thousands. If Hillary is elected president, my vote helped get her there. She's strong and capable of making moves, or sitting back and not making moves. She's also able to play the political game which sadly is required. You can be naive and think the president shouldn't be a politician but that's not reality.


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Your good advice falls on deaf ears to a crowd fearful of women in general, and support a party that supports ignorance if science and defaming the constitution. Under Hilary's leadership there was one Benghazi......as opposed to the 13 under Bush. If she were a republican, she would get congratulated.

 

Take care of her Wall Street friends ? There are a few bad actors on Wall Street but it is the home of the GDP indicators of our economy. Unless you failed to recognize it, America does well ONLY if Wall Street does well. It is our free enterprise, capitalistic advantage we have over most countries. Taking care of wall street is just as mportant as taking car of every citizen in the USA. The mega money doners from wall street want to do well. GOP presidents have been in office for 9 of the last 10 recessions. Why would WS not support a democrat; any democrat including Hillary. Even Fox business has said democrats are better for the economy.

 

Exactly. But, it was by design. The Republican Party preached the ills of govt. to their followers for so long, they took anyone who was outside of govt, no matter how incompetent he is. That's Trump.

Science is a hoax and the earth is 6000 years old are just examples of how far right the GOP is.

 

Ha ha

As if the GOP knows what they are doing with the economy. Recessions and poor job growth, increased unemployment follow them around like a little puppy. 9-10 of the last recessions were with Repubilcan GOPs.

 

So basically what you are saying the facade of Democrats being the champion of the little people is a farce. They are the champions of Wall Street, Lobbyists, Special Interests and Mega Money donors.

 

We owe the Liberal Progs a great debt of gratitude for the great debt they have racked up single handed, Gee, Thanks Felllas !!!

 

Well, let's have a look. Here is a chart that shows the negative GDP quarters with shading to show the last 11 recessions. Starting at the right and working backwards:

q1/08 - Clearly Bush

q1/01 -The quarter started with Clinton as President

q4/90 - Bush the elder

q4/81 - Reagan

q2/80 - Carter

q3/73 - Nixon

q2/60 - Eisenhower

q4/57 - Eisenhower

q3/53 - Eisenhower

91/49 - Truman

I get 7 and 3 and that I'm sure would pretty much even out if you included FDR. What we call "The Great Depression" was actually a series of deep recessions punctuated with intervening periods of growth.

 

Nine of the last 10 recessions our country has endured began with a Republican president in the White House. Only one recession, the shortest one, began under a Democrat.

Since 1953, Republican presidents were in office for 432 months; 99 months, or for 23 percent of that time, the country suffered a recession.


Conversely, since 1953, Democratic presidents were in office for 276 months, with 12 months, or 4 percent of the time spent in recession. Keep in mind, six of the 12 months counted against the Democrats were inherited from Republicans who left office during a recession.

Of the 111 months of recession occurring since 1953, those that began while Republicans were in the White House account for 105 months, or 95 percent. Of the 111 months of recession occurring since 1953, those that began while Democrats were in the White House account for 6 months, or 5 percent.

History tells us we are 19 times more likely to be in recession with a Republican president than we are with a Democratic President. This is because Democrats look out for the 99 percent of the people who drive our economy while Republicans represent the wealthiest 1 percent at the top. So if you want another recession, vote Republican. They deliver a recession every time.

(Source: National Bureau of Economic Research)

 

Fox business, hardly a bastion of liberalism agrees !

http://www.foxbusiness.com/markets/...s-markets-gdp-outperform-under-democrats.html

 

Weren't Carter, Truman and Clinton all Democrats?

From a sample of 10? I'm not sure you can tell a great deal from a sample of 10. That seems like a pretty small sample.

 

And 1stQ2001 wasn't really a recession, as the economy had positive growth in 2dQ2001. Recessions are traditionally defined as two consecutive quarters.

 

I am talking about Wall Street. Your economics are poor if you don't think small business retirement funds contributed to 401ks is a most important vehicle for the middle class retirement and depends upon a strong Wall Street. A strong Wall Street is necessary for any economic success of the "little people" and the middle class.
And, democrats do it better....according to FOX. Business article.
http://www.foxbusiness.com/markets/...s-markets-gdp-outperform-under-democrats.html

 

And this is why Hillary Clinton accepts millions and millions from Wall Street? Because Democrats do it better?

 

We are looking specifically too at the trickle down economics of Reagan and republicans since. Reagan turned the US from the biggest loaner nation to the biggest debtor nation in the world. Trickle down and lowering taxes on the rich NEVER WORKED and Repubicans keep preaching this pitiful attempt to help the economy.

 

Really?

I think I'd take Reagan's Current Account Balance over any President that followed him and be damn glad for the opportunity:

 

Wall Street knows that democrats are better for the economy. Why ? One of the huge reasons, is they know democrats know that climate change is real, which has a huge effect of the economy, and they know that democrats actually understand the earth is older then 6000 years.
Wall Street knows that dumb dumbs are really bad for the economy. How can any one believe in the tooth fairy. and be trusted with the economy. Wall Street knows that anyone who thinks science is a hoax, can't be trusted to run the country. It's really that simple. Just count the number of teeth in a Trump supporter on one hand.

 

Why don't you check deficit as a percent of GDP. Bow wow....Reagan, even Bush one called his plan voo Doo economics

 

Sure. I'll still take Reagan's

 

Reagan, the most corrupt presidential government with over 130 investigations and prosecutions for crimes.
That GOP members would support it.....makes sense.

 

"By the end of his term, 138 Reagan administration officials had been convicted, had been indicted, or had been the subject of official investigations for official misconduct and/or criminal violations. In terms of number of officials involved, the record of his administration was the worst ever."
1. Lyn Nofziger--White House Press Secretary - Convicted on charges of illegal lobbying of White House in Wedtech scandal. The lobbying would not have been illegal had he not been White House Press Secretary.

2. Michael Deaver, Reagan's Chief of Staff, received three years' probation and was fined one hundred thousand dollars after being convicted for lying to a congressional subcommittee and a federal grand jury about his lobbying activities after leaving the White House. Same as with Lyn Nofziger.

3. James Watt, Reagan's Secretary of the Interior was indicted on 41 felony counts for using connections at the Department of Housing and Urban Development to help his private clients seek federal funds for housing projects in Maryland, New Jersey, Massachusetts, Puerto Rico and the Virgin Islands. Watt conceded that he had received $500,000 from clients who were granted very favorable housing contracts after he had intervened on their behalf. Watt was eventually sentenced to five years in prison and 500 hours of community service.

4. John Poindexter, Reagan's national security advisor, guilty of five criminal counts involving conspiracy to mislead Congress, obstructing congressional inquiries, lying to lawmakers, used "high national security" to mask deceit and wrong-doing...

5. Richard Secord pleaded guilty to a felony charge of lying to Congress over Iran-Contra. Appointed by William Casey to assist Oliver North.

6. Elliott Abrams was appointed by President Reagan in 1985 to head the State Department's Latin American Bureau. He was closely linked with ex-White House aide Lt. Col. Oliver North's covert movement to aid the Contras. Working for North, Abrams coordinated inter-agency support for the contras and helped solicit illegal funding from foreign powers as well as domestic contributors. Abrams agreed to cooperate with Iran-Contra investigators and pled guilty to two charges reduced to misdemeanors. He was sentenced in 1991 to two years probation and 100 hours of community service but was pardoned by President George Bush...

7. Robert C. McFarlane, Reagan's National Security Advisor, pled guilty to four misdemeanors and was sentenced to two years probation and 200 hours of community service. He was also fined $20,000. He received a blanket pardon from President George Bush...

8. Alan D. Fiers was the Chief of the Central Intelligence Agency's Central American Task Force. Fiers pled guilty in 1991 to two counts of withholding information from congress about Oliver North's activities and the diversion of Iran arms sale money to aid the Contras. He was sentenced to one year of probation and 100 hours of community service. Alan Fiers received a blanket pardon for his crimes from President Bush...

Thomas G. Clines: convicted of four counts of tax-related offenses for failing to report income from the operations;
Carl R. Channel - Office of Public Diplomacy , partner in International Business- first person convicted in the Iran/Contra scandal, pleaded guilty of one count of defrauding the United States
Richard R. Miller - Partner with Oliver North in IBC, a Office of Public Diplomacy front group, convicted of conspiracy to defraud the United States.
Frank Gomez
13.. Donald Fortier
Clair George was Chief of the CIA's Division of Covert Operations under President Reagan. George was convicted of lying to two congressional committees in 1986. George faced a maximum five year federal prison sentence and a $20,000 fine for each of the two convictions. Jurors cleared George of five other charges including two counts of lying to a federal grand jury. Clair George received a blanket pardon for his crimes from President George Bush...
Rita Lavelle was indicted, tried and convicted of lying to Congress and served three months of a six-month prison sentence.
Philip Winn - Assistant HUD Secretary. Pleaded guilty to one count of scheming to give illegal gratuities.
Thomas Demery - Assistand HUD Secretary - pleaded guilty to steering HUD subsidies to politically connected donors.
Deborah Gore Dean - executive assistant to Samuel Pierce - indicted on thirteen counts, three counts of conspiracy, one count of accepting an illegal gratuity, four counts of perjury, and five counts of concealing articles. She was convicted on twelve accounts. She appealed and prevailed on several accounts but the convictions for conspiracy remained.
Catalina Villaponda - Former US Treasurer
Joseph A. Strauss - Accepting kickbacks from developers
Oliver North - He was indicted on sixteen felony counts and on May 4, 1989, he was convicted of three: accepting an illegal gratuity, aiding and abetting in the obstruction of a congressional inquiry, and destruction of documents (by his secretary, Fawn Hall, on his instructions). He was sentenced by U.S. District Judge Gerhard A. Gesell on July 5, 1989, to a three-year suspended prison term, two years probation, $150,000 in fines, and 1,200 hours community service. His conviction was later overturned.

 

LOL, okay, so all we have to do is count the number of teeth. Regardless of how many teeth one has, Hillary Clinton has been bought and paid for by Wall Street. She will do their bidding, it is that simple. Instead of making certain firms divest so they will not be too big to fail the next time we have a recession or are run into the ground by bad business decisions, because of their investment in Hillary Clinton, the tax payers will once again bail them out.

I have no problem with Wall Street. I do when a company, corporation, etc becomes so big even the government can't afford to let them fail. If Wall Street wants to donate and give Hillary Clinton millions, tens of millions of dollars they are doing so because they know they will get more back in return than their original outlay of donations.

They are smart people over there, they wouldn't donate, give, if their return on that investment wasn't more than the original investment.

 

You talk about Wall Street like it's one endity. There are corrupt facets of Wall Street and ligit who make money when stocks are consistently up and the GDP grows. They know in total, the chances are four times greater the market will be stronger for for a dem then a rep. That's called history. It's simple the use of math models. You look at history, you look at influential factors, and you support them. Let me give you a big secrete. When a republican wins the presidency, and worse, the congress as well...you can keep buying high yield stocks. Go for it.

 

So what you are saying you do not have a problem with Wall Street buying presidential candidates to do their bidding. That it is okay to do so because the stock market perform better under Democrats.

 

What does ANYTHING in the last 2 pages have to do with the OP?