Why blacks don't need Civil Rights

If the government states that all men are created equal, and black people are people, then why should there need to even exist federal legislation giving black people rights? For the record, I am a black man. I am also an Anarcho-Capitalist, and I do not believe in a government that needs to "issue" rights to people. People should have rights, because rights are natural law, not government law. And as the results of this, one should not need to beg the government for rights, but rather we need to abolish the government that tries to take those rights away from you. I feel that the main issue in the Civil Rights movement was that black people gave the government legitimacy by asking the government for rights. When black people should have been able to succeed despite the government, not because of government.


Now since I criticize Civil Rights, how would I have handled the situation? Well, prior to the Civil Rights movement, black people were showing amazing signs of economic progress. Because Black People understood that the government would NOT step in and help them, then that mean black people had to arm and defend themselves. They also had to build their own communities, their own businesses, build their own schools, and never need a red cent from the government. Back in the 1900s to 1960s black Americans were the most self-sufficient group in America.

I think the only way to fix black America now is to repel all Civil Rights. Because we can talk about genes and low IQs all day. But the bottomline black America is dysfunctional, because black people believe in government more than any other group in America. Black people do NOTHING but wait for government to step in and solve problems. But since the government doesn't know how to solve problems, and black people do. I think we need to just remove all government support out of the black community. Starting with giving blacks no civil rights, no right to vote, no public schools, no police force, and not 1 tax dollar going to help the black community.

The only recourse for black America will be to actually build up their own communities. This mean build their own businesses, build their own schools, and build their own infrastructure. This will stimulate greater economic activity in the black community, and this will in essence rescue the Black Community from big government.

 

The civil rights act was supposed to only oppose local and state laws that forced businesses to segregate their seating sections and had public utilities segregated. If not for government interference of the white sheet democrats, no CRA would have been necessary.

 

So why can't blacks just move from that city or just move from that state? Why do we need the federal government to step in and solve the problem? It's very odd that the only people who have restricted rights for black people is the government. While individuals may have issues with blacks, it's really not so impactful until this worldview is backed by government. So it seems that the solution would have been less local government and not more governent. Seems like it would have been better to combat protectionism, instead of just federalizing civl rights legislation. I'm just trying to figure out, on what grounds can the government tell you what rights you can or cannot have? That's the issue with the Civil Rights movement. Black people never needed the government to acknowledge they had rights. It just needed to abolish forms of government that restricted these rights.

 

I agree. The local governments forced local business owners to do something. Then the federal government forced the business owners to be all inclusive. The free market would have worked itself out if the federal government just stopped at keeping the local governments from imposing their will upon the people who owned businesses. But as always, all governments go far beyond what is needed to swing the pendulum in the other direction instead of just stopping it from swinging altogether.

 

So that Attorney general { highest law enforcement person in country }
like Eric Holder can decide that his DOJ will no longer take cases
where Blacks are named as Defendants.Only as Plantiffs.
So says J.Christian Adams,former attorney at DOJ.

 

The OP has an excellent plan.

That is, if his goal is to turn black communities into Mogadishu circa 1993.

 

Actually it wouldn't end up like this at all. This was the result of a totalitarian government that the people overthrew. And you're also talking about a place with really very few resources at all. I don't think the same thing would happen with black Americans, because ideally black Americans would not be trying to take over the government. The main reason for civil war in Africa is another group trying to overthrow the government and then replace it. In general I advocate no government, and no chance of ever rebuilding a government.

I feel based on the issues blacks have today, it would be better if black people remove themselves from big government indoctrination. This way they will become self-sufficient enough to build their own communities.

 

You want to cut off police, money for housing, money for food, any political franchise, and any freedoms blacks have in America.

The result of that is that those with the most guns (the street gangs) would seize control in the power vacuum that followed. Your end up with little Mogadishus spread out all over America.

 

This might help your arguments.

By Tim Swanson on October 30, 2002
Format: Paperback

 

It's funny how you equate government services with freedom. so let me give you this scenario.

A common statistic is "50% of all black males are unemployed". Now how would you decrease this unemployment? Well I would think the best thing to do is to open up a business in this community. For example let's say black people in a certain neighborhood don't have cars, and the nearest grocery store is outside of the neighborhood. So let's say I as a black capitalist wanted to start a black rideshare service, OR even open up a grocery store in that community. Am I allowed to do this? Nope, because government would just tax the hell out of you for doing this. Also because of strict zoning laws, you have to go through many layers of red tape to even begin to open the store. And because the government has reduced competition of whole sale or distriibution, that means a smaller store has to pay insane prices to bring in distributors.

Also let's not talk about how hard it is for black businesses to get a loan, let alone a loan to open up a business in the black community.

Now let's talk about education. What if black people didn't like the public education that they were getting. And decided that they wanted to build their own school and educate themselves. Well you would NEVER get it off the ground running because the public school system would not allow you to compete without trying to regulate you out of business, if you could start it at all.

Since crime prevention in black communities are so terrible. what is black people wanted to create their own police service where they are a little more connected to what is going on in the neibhorood. Well the government would shut that down because it's vigalentism.

So tell me, if black people in any given community decided to take control of their community and do things their way, could they? Or would the government step in and tell them what they couldn't do? If you choose the latter, congrats you're correct. Now tell me how this is freedom?

 

So basically....you're an anarchist?

 

So why can't blacks just move from that city or just move from that state?

Did you seriously ask that question?

For one thing...what happens when they run out of states to move to.

Beyond that...it's an insane question

 

Blacks would not need any civil rights legislation, if our representatives to Government could follow our own supreme laws of the land.

 

So you want black communities to organize and create their own services overnight and you think they would do this faster than the street gangs which are already armed and organized?

When the oppressive Taliban government in Afghanistan collapsed, did the people there get freedom and organized for their own benefit or did warlords take over? The same would happen in American black communities.

 

Oddly the free market DIDN'T "work itself out" for like 100 years...

 

BTW, I am EXTREMELY suspicious of guys who come on blogs and talk exactly like alll the other "White Nationalists" or "White Separatists" or what-have-you....

who claim "for the record, I'm a black man."

 

We'd have to see him without the hood to know for sure.

 

There was no free market. To get a business license, you had to show you had a plan for segregation. How would you call that a free market? And heaven forbid a black person applied for a business license.

 

Yes, to some, blacks must all talk exactly the same.

Take this guy Ward Connerly, he was against affirmative action. Due to his efforts, in CA he got it killed.

 

Like the black guys at the Trump rally in hoods?



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Like the black guys at the Trump rally in hoods?

 

WTF are you even talking about?

First you tell us that the free market can cure racism...and then you tell us there was no free market.

Why do you even talk?

 

Show me something I said that was blatantly anti-black and pro-white nationalist in any way? Especially to the point where you would question my ethnicity.

 

If the government has control over who can open a business, is that market "free" or sanctioned? Let me know if this is to hard for you, but I can only teach it to you, I cant understand it for you.

 

Why do you think that anarcho capitalism will grant you any rights in first place.

 

Anarchy is like Atheism. They are paradoxes of belief in nothingness or rule of nothing. There will always be some form of government or belief in something that transcends human perception.