Salon writer admits he's a pedophile

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  1. Arxael

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    Well that's all we have to go by. The fact remains though that he is trying to justify it and Salon should not be supporting that.

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    So criminal offense is the only fireable offense? Is it criminal for me to tell my boss to "(*)(*)(*)(*) Off"? However, you can damn sure I'll be fired if I say that. It doesn't have to be criminal to fire someone over.

    The same goes for this. It's not the fact he is a pedophile, it is the fact he is trying to justify it like some celebrity status.
     
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    This is a tough one. He isn't hiding it, that's for sure.

    But it does seem as if he is heading down the same path as Homosexuals. He is claiming to have "Fallen in love" with this child, which is a very valid argument for same sex marriage.

    He is trying to link sexual compulsion to love and those are not the same thing.
     
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    Who is the "left"? You've accused me of being a progressive, liberal many times and I disagree with Salon supporting this. So who is this magical left?
     
  4. Brewskier

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    Basically. The article's goal is to make you question the negative social stigma that surrounds pedophiles. We have to be more understanding and tolerant. Those poor people.
     
  5. Andrew Jackson

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    Oh, so you're an expert on Amsterdam?

    How many times have you been there?
     
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    How far has he gone. That's the question if he feels so strongly to the point of airing it publically.
     
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    Child porn was a billion dollar industry in the Netherlands up until the 1980's. I don't need to be an "expert on Amsterdam" or have been there to know that. A lot of information can be obtained by reading once in a while. You should try it.
     
  8. Aleksander Ulyanov

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    Even more interesting, do you have any stats or studies to back all these characteristics up., or is this just your opinion?.
     
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    According to whatever evidence we can logically infer exists he hasn't done anything at all to anyone. Do you think we ought to punish people for what they THINK of doing?

    Stephen King has made a substantial portion of an extremely excellent living from a book called The Stand. In this story he, according to his own words."I killed 99 and 44/100 of the human race, and it felt good". Should we imprison him as a potential mass murderer?
     
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    There is sustantial evidence besides just the allegations against Sandusky. You haven't proved that you didn't blow up the plane ISIS claims to have taken down over Sinai, or killed Kennedy for that matter, should you be arrested?. You conservatives are great about these kinds of things. If a crime is fairly heinous you don't give a flying (*)(*)(*)(*) over tiny details like did the accused actually DO anything
     
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    Amazing logic you have there.
     
  12. Aleksander Ulyanov

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    It's your logic. I'm just following it.. If you can punish people with no evidence they've done something then you can convict anyone of anything
     
  13. Steady Pie

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    1. Guilt by association, journalism has very little to do with what makes your (*)(*)(*)(*) hard.

    2. I care about actions, not preferences. Many people have unexplainable fetishes from their early childhood, it's not like you're able to turn them off, no matter if it's the hots for feet, BDSM, or whatever. What matters is action. If you have the hots for BDSM and go tie up a woman against her will and rape her, that's quite obviously wrong. If you simply have these urges and do not act on them I am relatively unconcerned. This man should be excluded from working with children, but I don't think pedophiles should be locked up purely because they have the urges.
     
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    Well, how would you propose the government should deal with thoughts? Lobotomies? As repulsive as this is to most people, if someone has not acted upon their thoughts, what is your suggestion for addressing this? The guy went public so I would assume there is no chance that people will be contacting him and asking him to babysit their kids. Aside from that, I see little other action that should or could be taken.
     
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    Is pedophilia a subset of fetishes generally, or is it something completely different entirely? If the former, it seems like one could be quite capable of abstaining, just as I am capable of abstaining from crucifying an innocent woman even though I'm into that (it's complicated).

    Either way, best to seek professional help. The process could likely be made easier, I remember watching a doco about homosexual therapy back in the day, before confidentiality became both a substantial commitment under the law, and was applied to homosexuals. The same disincentive to come out would likely be present currently with pedophilia, the site seemed to indicate that a therapist can have you arrested simply based on the presence of the urge/your admitting of it. If so, that would make therapy impossible until someone finds out and alerts authorities (and by then it's probably too late and a child has been molested).
     
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    Maryland delegate for Trump charged with child porn.. Using the right's criteria, at least on this forum, this means that all Trump supporters are into child porn.
     
  17. Steady Pie

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    Slippery slope logical fallacy, meet PF.
     
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    i wonder if pressure groups can lead to pedophilia legalization
     
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    Your link is worthy of a separate thread.

    Please start it. Let's see how the Trumpists defend that behavior.

    Based on their logic, in this thread, all Trumpists act like that.
     
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    I am unsure why you want him fired, presumably working at Salon does not involve interaction with children. Unless you mean because he is a pedophile, he should be unemployed permanently from any sort of gainful employment.

    I'm not sure how that would help the situation. Either imprison him or leave him to work in non-child related fields. Impoverishing him doesn't do much.
     
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    Pedophiles have the same rights as you and the same restrictions as you. What rights would a pedophile need that you don't need?
     
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    If I was working at Salon I would fire him too. Bad for business. But I am not the management at Salon.
     
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    The whole point of the article was that he has not perpetrated crimes against children.

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    Funny that, you get to hide behind the 14th if you're a protected class.
     
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    As far as we know and according to him. If he has done it already, he probably isn't stupid enough to admit it publicly.

    Having to run into a bathroom and jerk off because a 5 year old got you so turned on seems like it's pretty serious and that he has very little self control.

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    And have a (D) after your name.
     
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    He didn't violate any laws, but he has a mental disorder, because if he were to act on his emotions it would be destructive to society. I think society needs to show more compassion to people like this since they're not breaking crimes. If people are willing to admit they have a problem before doing something illegal they deserve respect. However, at the same time there should be a database and they should be banned from doing things like babysitting.
     
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