No Scientist Really Understands Macroevolution!

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  1. Tosca1

    Tosca1 Well-Known Member

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    Wrong!

    Here's what he said in his own website:

    http://www.jmtour.com/personal-topi...-the-christian-creationist-and-his-“science”/


    There is nothing disingenous with my quotes, and what I've presented about James Tour. Anyone can freely go to his website, where the OP quotes were taken. Nothing was taken out of context.


    You better support your claim that he begged not to be quoted.....otherwise, it is you who's being disingenous.
    Cite where he stated that!









    Your source doesn't get it.


    http://www.jmtour.com/personal-topi...-the-christian-creationist-and-his-“science”/


    And the point is: it's not only James Tour who admitted to not understand! The scientists that he talked to - some of them are evolutionists - and they also admitted privately that they don't understand it either!





    So, there.
     
  2. AboveAlpha

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    Well we have evidence.

    How Electrons exist at every point of position simultaneously in there electron orbital fields around an Atomic Nucleus is just one example.

    AA

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    What we don't understand is Dark Energy and Dark Matter...but we have developed the Geometry of their actions.

    AA
     
  3. lynnlynn

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    Just for fun, can we say that computers went from macro to micro evolution since computers started out being much bigger than they are today?
     
  4. AboveAlpha

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    We have developed several models....I have at MIT.

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    Dave....in order to have a Big Bang you need a White Hole generated first.

    AA
     
  5. AboveAlpha

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    As I keep telling Dave...and he knows this....Observation is not necessary for existance.

    Observation just locks in Wave Function and Value.

    You can't observe anything until the Quanta first exists.

    AA
     
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    Tour is clueless.

    He has less understanding of the reality than a kindergartner.

    AA
     
  7. _Inquisitor_

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    Yes you this is what you posted, so it is you who contradicts
    Bare insult, not even little cloth of reasoning to cover.
    You are perverting my words and the reality and ignore my points.

    This is your logical conclusion based on semantics of an unqualified in chemistry or genetics dictionary with a goal to pervert basic reality and again ignore my points.
    Bare insult, not even little cloth of reasoning to cover. Do you have such a need to show your bare butt in public?
    You forgot to 100,001 biologists. This is what you believe in. It is impossible to argue a blind belief.

    The fact in the discussion is that a seasoned scientist, outstanding chemist reports his observation that no scientist understands evolution. And I commented what could be the simple and obvious reason.

    (By the way neither of above mentioned disciplines except may be Paleontology has any need in evolution if used for any practical purpose. No medical doctor needs it. I doubt you would easily find a medical doctor who would believe in evolution or who would care)
    So far you have not addressed my comment. Thus it stays to be true. And what creationists have to do to anything I said and to the subject at all?
     
  8. Taxonomy26

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    Lying again I see and with your usual Childish Formatting. Giant spacing and coloring-book posts. (Now compressed in my reply)

    Tour can be quoted but "IN CONEXT."
    That Context is that he is "NOT QUALIFIED" to be part of the Evo-Creation debate and is a "Layman."
    and that he does Not want to be part of the Evo-Creation debate. (so don't invite him to speak on it)
    You LIED.

    You also made this whole string a LIE projecting Tour's (a chemist) LACK of understanding of Evolution as "NO Scientist understands evolution"! ! !
    A Stupendous and DISHONEST Lie for Jesus.

    Tour also says he does NOT believe in ID or Creationism.

    Back to AnswersInGenepiss.
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  9. tecoyah

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    And thus do we have a quandary...firstly we have the individuals that pretend to "Know" the reality of such things as cannot be known, then we have the reality that they cannot be known. And so we end up with speculation presented as fact by people who have no idea they are doing so.
     
  10. AboveAlpha

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    LOL!!

    This is why I do not use the words Micro Evolution!!

    We now have developed Quantum Computers and they work on a Quantum Level as they use Qubits...not Bits and use Quantum Teleportation.

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    YUP!!

    Evolution is a FACT.....PERIOD!!!

    AA
     
  11. _Inquisitor_

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    Just for fun, if we were wiped out by a nuclear war and a silicon based civilization landed and found fossils of the phones, they, looking at morphological features of the fossils would make the same logical conclusions as Darwin. What is the difference?
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    The difference how so?

    You need to be much clearer than this.

    AA
     
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    You keep on making up TEXTS and CONTEXT. Your personal opinion of what words might means quotes neither the text no context. While both the text and the context are very simple and have been fully quoted and repeatedly quoted with no omission by Tosca1.
     
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    All of the above apply!
     
  15. AboveAlpha

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    I LOVE IT!!!

    If I had a dime for every time a religious member posted a link to a FAKE EXPERT...well....I would have a lot of dimes!! LOL!!

    AA
     
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    Come on!!

    You can't call a person who follows the scientific method a fanatic.

    AA
     
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    ALL true believers in evolution love it! It is their level of a debate. 100,001 biologists love it!









    That's why the distinguished scientist wouldn't want to disturb them.
     
  18. AboveAlpha

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    The reality of evolution does not require belief.

    There is more than enough evidence and there is actually PROOF.

    AA
     
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    Oh, AA has established the scientific method and I missed it. How could I !? What should I do!?




    I guess I can. I guess I just did. You know I call things as they are.
     
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    Indeed believers live in their own reality. And they know that evidence and data are required and that there are mountains of evidence and data out and that evolution needs to be proven and it has been proven as a fact!
    Now all they need to do is to come out and shout:
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    EVOLUTION IS A FACT! PERIOD!
     
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    You should pay attention.

    I can tell you how to use a cheap microscope....some bleach, sugar water, a few prepared slides...a sample harvester....and in one afternoon you can see with your own eye's evolution occurring.

    Do you want to learn?

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    Evolution has been proven upon a Molecular/Atomic Level which is tantamount to a Mathematical Proof.

    And never in the history of man has anything obtained a Mathematical proof and then later found out to be wrong.

    AA
     
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    OK...this post to me is uncalled for.

    Especially the God is Great B.S.!!

    You have absolutely no idea who and what I am and I will very soon be leaving to do a JOB with my Team is the freakin' SAND BOX!!

    I was one of only 196 Men on the ground in Afghanistan in the first couple of weeks of the war that were members of U.S. SOCOM Special Teams, Special Forces and CIA Teams.

    We directed U.S. Air Strikes that killed Ten's of Thousand's of the enemy in just a few weeks.

    Don't EVER post what you did to me again!

    AA
     
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    You simply do not have the knowledge specific to how all life on Earth has a single one in the same Viral DNA Encoding into their Genomes.

    The ONLY way this is possible is if all life evolved from a single original life form.

    It cannot be denied.

    AA
     
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    You are not an independent observer. An independent observer is someone that evaluates a topic without any preconceived biases for any aspect of the topic. You have openly admitted that you do not believe the evidence for evolution, but you have not demonstrated any evidence or rationale for this belief. All that you have stated was that demonstrating a majority of people that support a theory is no evidence for that theory. The reason that all those people support that theory is because of how science is conducted.

    Science is a process that builds on itself, but has built in safeguards to prevent radical fanaticism without evidence. Each empirical study conducted uses hypothesis testing. In the simplest case, a scientist proposes two hypotheses: the null hypothesis and the research hypothesis. The null hypothesis is one that is assumed true until overwhelming evidence disproves it. The overwhelming evidence is different for each field, but the minimum is 95% certainty that the null hypothesis is able to be rejected. If science was filled with fanatical believers, they would have elected to make the theory of evolution as the null hypothesis, but they have not. Each new finding based on the theory of evolution, must pass this threshold, otherwise it is rejected. If the theory of evolution had no empirical evidence to support it, then hundreds of thousands of current scientists and millions of scientists since its development would not have supported it.
     
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    So you cannot point me denying anything in this tread.
     

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