In Canada, Muslim woman attacked in supermarket, pig’s head left at mosque

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  1. Space_Time

    Space_Time Well-Known Member

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    Clearly this behavior is inappropriate. How is a better way to address terrorism concerns? Should hate crime laws be used here or would assault or vandalism laws work as well?

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...ermarket-severed-pigs-head-dropped-at-mosque/

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    In Canada, Muslim woman attacked in supermarket. Pig’s head left at mosque.

    By Travis M. Andrews June 22 at 5:39 AM
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    The alleged attacker in a photo snapped by the victim of a supermarket attack. (London, Ontario Police)
    A Muslim woman and her infant child weren’t even safe in the supermarket.

    On Monday, a woman and her four-month-old son were enjoying some late afternoon shopping at the Superking Supermarket in London, Ontario. According to a statement by London Police, at approximately 5 p.m., a woman wearing a shirt exclaiming “CANADA,” neon pink slip-on shoes and wide-legged black pants approached the unnamed victim and her baby and allegedly began screaming at them.

    The suspect then reportedly attempted to rip off the victim’s hijab and, once it was askew, began tearing at her hair. Finally, she left the area but not before the victim snapped a few pictures of her.


    In the photos, the woman stands with her face contorted with anger. She’s pointing an accusing finger at the camera. In one, her mouth is gaping, her eyes are narrowed and one hand is balled into a fist — the picture of hatred.

    “We would like to find out ourselves what … the motive was,” London Police spokesman Sandasha Bough told CBC. “After that, then we will continue with the investigation. It’s definitely very concerning for anyone to be assaulted for no apparent reason.”

    The victim sustained minor injuries.

    It’s the second aggression against Muslims in Canada since the beginning of Ramadan, the holy month of fasting observed by Muslims around the world.

    The other occurred around 2:30 a.m. Sunday.

    A man had finished praying at the Quebec City mosque. As he opened the door to leave, he noticed a package on the doorstep.

    It must have looked like a nice present at first glance, with bushy ribbons decorating the top, accompanied a note with the words “Bonne appétit” written in thick, black capital letters.

    A closer look would reveal an odd detail: The picture of a pig, exposing its underbelly in a seductive sprawl, the kind bikini models long ago made famous.

    An even closer look would reveal it to be a grotesque package.

    Wrapped in the crinkly cellophane, under bright bows, was a bloody, fleshy mass: A severed pig’s head, still dripping fluids. Observant Muslims do not consume pork and leaving a pig’s head at a mosque has become an all-too frequent gesture of hate among anti-Muslim bigots across the globe. A similar incident occurred in Philadelphia last year.
     
  2. PARTIZAN1

    PARTIZAN1 Well-Known Member

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    I hate hate crime jaws so go with assault and vandalism if that is really what happened there.
     
  3. lizarddust

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    I doubt this woman has any terrorism concerns. She's just a bigoted hateful person.
     
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    Who? The Muslim women?
     
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    No, the perp. Let's face it, anyone wandering around Ontario with neon pink slip-on shoes has to have some kind of mental disorder.
     
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    There was only one bigoted hateful person in this incident, and she wasn't Muslim.
     
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    Just assault , glad she wasn't hurt badly.

    As for the pigs head let's make sure it's not an attempt to simply garner sympathy.
     
  8. MrNick

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    Honestly I could care less these days if Muslims are attacked..

    How does anyone expect people to act when radicals are running around Europe raping woman and attacking anyone in their path while these countries pay them welfare to live? or because of Ottawa or when they blow up gay night clubs, 9/11 or insert here _____________....

    There is certainly a double standard here where when a Muslim attacks it's a "segregated incident" but when a non-Muslim is fed up with the nonsense its a "hate crime"....

    I'm really not sympathetic TBH...
     
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    The only way to stop the intense dislike non-Muslims started feeling towards the Muslims (who make it a point to promote Islam even through dress or mosques), is for the non-terrorist Muslims to start criticizing and demonstrating against the Islam-related terrorism.

    They have to start speaking against their own.

    ... or stop wearing burkas in public.

    And that Canadian woman?
    It's not her problem that Muslims developed such a horrible reputation all over the world.
    Is she would not have had the burka there would not have been a confrontation.
     
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    I was struggling on how to say the same thing, but you said it better.
     
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    Well, so what if this woman had her Hijab ripped off - at least she wasn't raped. So what is some clown found a pig head on the steps of his Mosque - at least it wasn't a bomb.
     
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    And, her kid didn't get beheaded and she forced to wash her hands in it's blood.

    Sorry, but I have no pity on her at all. Or any of them, actually.
     
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    Maybe if the Muslim woman understood English she and we would have an idea what was being yelled at her. Wouldn't that be helpful.
     
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    Your lack of human empathy is disturbing. It’s the one of the same root problems the terrorists suffer in the first place. You could be just a couple of steps away from bombing a Mosque or shooting up a Muslim school. Please seek professional help before you hurt yourself or others.
     
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    Start? But seriously:

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    I know that a lot of the world view the US as fat McDonald burger wielding oil sucking demons..., but we don't sink as low to cast everyone in the same light for the actions of a few... do we?
     
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    now the woman who was battered by the other woman, thats a clear cut case of simple battery... however I am more curious about canadian laws and the pig head, because in america, that wouldn't actually be illegal... its nothing more than gifting someone a package, despite being perceived as vile and criminal, it very well may not be a crime... now depending how this package was delivered, you could likely trespass the deliverer from the property and if they come back now its a crime, but to give someone a gift, as long as that gift doesn't violate a law, is not a crime... even if its perceived as hateful... I dunno, any canadian lawyers here... hate law enhancers in america require a base crime for them to be attached to, but they can't be charged just for "hate"... they need to criminally do something for the hate enhancer to be added...

    so I think we have one clear crime, and one likely non-crime...
     
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    But at least it was a woman under it???

    That'll be the next thing - 'false flag' pigs heads?
     
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    We go with both. The crime that was committed but if it is believed it was motivated by hatred of religion, race, sexuality and so on then there is extra added to the sentence.
     
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    Well concerning Europe
    https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...s-report/?postshare=271466624340204&tid=ss_tw

    I am guessing that it is much the same in Canada, US etc.
     
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    My lack of human empathy?

    I have empathy but at the same time these radical Muslims have ZERO and they're everywhere in Europe...

    Why should I have empathy when Muslims don't?

    - - - Updated - - -

    There is absolutely no such thing as a lone wolf Islamic terrorist.
     
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    Like I said they leave bombs and those who want to antagonize leave pig heads...

    Perhaps you put your money where your mouth is and go over there and pretend this (*)(*)(*)(*) doesn't happen on a regular basis?
     
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    Oh they were speaking about Far Right terrorism but you make a good point. There is no such thing as lone wolf far right terrorism.
     
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    Ah yes, slip in the 'false flag' excuse-just in case. No Muslim is going to leave a pig's head at his mosque, they aren't that stupid.
     
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    Any terrorism, but I have not seen "right" terrorism unless progressives consider Muslims "far right" (which they are)....
     
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    You’re failing to distinguish between the extremist killers and the normal Muslims just going about their weekly shop. Most Muslims are no different to you or me in every way other than one. There are obviously massive differences between you and me and there will be loads of Muslims who are much, much more like you than they are like some other Muslims.

    Obviously dehumanising people on the basis of superficially simple characteristics is easier than trying to distinguish the extremists and terrorists amongst them and it’s actually a natural defensive instinct but that doesn’t make it a good thing and if blindly followed, it will only serve to make the situation worse, not better.
     

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