It is a sign of desperation when you have to cut-and-paste long lists of appeal to authority references. I see much of this list comes from some place like: http://www.aaplog.org/complications...e-bibliography-on-abortion-and-mental-health/ (by the way I think you are supposed to cite your references when you cut-and-paste such a huge block of information into the forum) If you really want to discuss the issues involved, I invite you (again) to pick your strongest evidence: (1) State what you think it proves (2) Link (url) to the study (3) Then let's discuss the strength of the evidence Hint: This first study is based in Australia, which reminds me to warn you about a major flaw in many pro-life studies. Prostitution is legal in Australia so (once again) we all see that pro-life researchers have to go to a country where they can find lots of prostitutes to stack the deck. In case you forgot, I will remind you that I do not judge prostitutes. I merely point out that prostitution draws in women who are atypical, it is a high-risk lifestyle so these women are more likely to suffer from emotional problems, more likely to have health problems due to sexually transmitted diseases, more likely to be involved with drugs, more likely to be involved with criminals, and more likely to need abortions. It is unprofessional and dishonest for a researcher to select a study group based on known risks and then hide those risks in the published study.
LOL DNSmith cannot even produce his own list of studies, the ones he/she has cited all come from here - https://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&r...av_CmFGjcxKJrg&bvm=bv.126130881,d.ZGg&cad=rja
1. Show me somebody who has made a racist, misogynistic, etc. comment that I am "allied with"....give a specific example. 2. Give a specific example of a "troubling comment" that I have made? What was "troubling" exactly? You mean the "Good German" comment? It's accurate. There were Germans who were not Nazis and did not want Jews exterminated or oppressed.....but they DID want Hitler to "make Germany great again", so they allied themselves with the Nazis or supported them. dnsmith is an obvious misogynist.....but you support your common agenda of opposing abortion choice.....so you ally yourself with him or support him.
Its not trash; it's just a question that makes the true level of caring obvious. Currently, there are way too many unwanted children and not enough people willing to accept the responsibility of raising them. Even with the church and the other programs, its not even close to being enough. If we outlaw this "murder" what are we going to do with all of these kids? Conclusion: You refuse to open your home to these kids. The claims you make about caring for them are false. You want others to care for them and taking your position just makes you feel better. You get to look down on others and call them murderers. You get to feel superior. You enjoy extending your righteous finger and pointing it at others. If a young lady was faced with this decision, abortion is a much more attractive option when the alternative would be dealing with your type of "help". That makes you part of the problem.
This explains much about this poster's world view. He apparently believes his morality is king. Fortunately, I live in the USA which functions under the rule of law and not rules imposed by theocratic wannabes.
Morality? Saba Qaiser's father was a Muslim who believed he was doing the moral thing when he shot her in the head for dishonoring the family. http://www.nytimes.com/2016/01/31/o...her-in-the-head-as-an-honor-killing.html?_r=0 He was quite pleased with himself until he learned that she had actually survived being shot in the head and thrown into the river. Savita Halappanavar's doctor and nurses believed they were doing the moral thing when they avoided checking her obvious signs of infection and allowed her to die instead of giving her the abortion that would have saved her life. http://www.nytimes.com/2013/04/20/w...care-in-death-of-indian-woman-in-ireland.html (by the way the fetus died too).
That "damn the law, my morality is more important"...is not only the path of the Theocrat.... with just a few tweeks?..... it's the path of the Religious Terrorist.....from the Islamic Jihadist to the "Pro-Life" Terrorists who shoot doctors and blow up Olympics.
How can they be adopted if they are murdered in the womb? As it is, there are fewer infants available for adoption than are available. I have fostered several over the years, without compensation. I paid the total bill myself. So once again, a silly question. BTW, for your information I tend to read may 30 or 40% of pro-abortion assertions or questions. They are simply not important enough to read them all.
Let's see how your thinking works and where it gets you. DNS is clearly a professional in health care. Because I support him, this makes me clearly also a professional in health care. He is a male. Clearly this puts me in the male camp. He deeply cares about women and children. This puts me also deeply in the camp of caring for women and their children.
Theocrat? A strange way to address a humanist. I have never discuss anything about abortion with religion in mind. I shot that down in flames.
That worked so well for Dredd Scott, as you recall. Prior to Roe v Wade, the law worked so well for the subjects of this discussion too. Didn't they?
Absolutely! I abhor people who kill innocent babies in the womb. It is anti humanist, ie cries out for retribution. I have counseled enough women in despair to understand how serious it is. They took up almost half of my case load with issues about pregnancy, problems having getting pregnant (which also causes depression and anxiety. Other issues with those disorders, along with PTSD from other causes being the majority of my cases. When people call me a liar about my profession, and make attempts to discredit my experience, and refuse to accept the myriad studies I have posted it makes me wonder why I read even one of their posts as there is nothing relevant in any of them.
It wasn't a silly question because it tells me the truth about what is behind your words. I am anti-abortion. My pro-choice position is the result on knowing that laws against abortion will have the same effect as laws against drugs. If someone wants one, no law will stop it. You know that. I also know that calling people names is the most ineffective way of persuading them. If you truly want expecting mothers to consider their options, telling them that not agreeing with you makes them a murderer, immediately cuts off any further communication. You have become their enemy and have only succeeded in strengthening resistance. Most so called pro-lifers hurt their cause more than they help. You did take some kids in on a temporary basis, so that does count as helping the cause. Not as much as taking on the 26+ year commitment of raising one as your own, but a step in the right direction nonetheless. It somewhat mitigates the damage you cause by your methods of communication. Pretty much a neutral. (Which is now the total weight I know to put on your words.) If you are a psychologist, you should know better. (Talk about the cobbler going barefoot!)
Does she want a hero biscuit? The (*)(*)(*)(*) that birthed me should have aborted all of her pregnancies - she had no business giving birth. Ever.
Sorry about that situation, you have my sympathy (which you certainly won't get from a "professional: )....it must be difficult to see the ignorant insist that all women must give birth even if they are totally incapable of parenting. There was a recent poster in here who claimed since women had the organs to reproduce it was their duty and he lived in this cotton candy world where all "mothers" were perfect and loving.... ....where do these people come from?
BTW, claiming that since women can reproduce they have to reproduce is just another lie used by Anti-Choicers.....another Big Lie about abortion..
What is this "abortion for convenience" you're whining about ? You can't get that the reason women get abortions is because the pregnancy is INCONVENIENT so there really isn't really any other kind of abortion.....so that phrase makes no sense. It's an abortion. And if those who allow abortion are accessories to murder why haven't you called the police and reported these murders and accessories..???
Everyone knows the girl we're whining about. Gets knocked up in High School. But, it is an inconvenient time, and she wants to finish her education and hold out for a better guy. Clearly someone entirely innocent should end up dead.
As I said, """You can't get that the reason women get abortions is because the pregnancy is INCONVENIENT so there really isn't really any other kind of abortion.....so that phrase makes no sense.""""" Did you read that in the post of mine YOU QUOTED? Did you? Or was it too INconvenient to read it??? Or just fired off the standard Anti-Choice crap about how everyone everywhere must do everything as INconveniently as possible because you think they should...... You: """Clearly someone entirely innocent should end up dead. "" ??? There is no "innocent" "someone" who ends up dead.....if you think so read through a few threads in this forum , those arguments have been fought and won, there is no "innocent someone" killed in abortion.
.....And, you do not know her and never will, yet you feel your OPINION should be what she lives by. Check the EGO at the door....if your damn head even fits through it.
