Pres. Obama calls for continued talks about race

I believe he is right, dialogue is no more than what it is......dialogue. People in this country have always come together when there was a crisis and we can do so again.

 

There needs to be some correction.That should read One-sided National
Debate over Race.Last I checked there was a White Race.And Eric Holder
had marching order to not take on White civil rights cases.
So said J. Christian Adams,a former official at DOJ.Stating that when
Holder took over the DOJ there were to be only Civil Rights cases where
Blacks were Plaintiffs ... Not Defendants.Which went in line with Ferguson
and a White Cop and Baltimore and a Black arrested defendant { Freddie Gray }.
Has Obama called for any White Justice.If so then cite it.
Last I checked Whites Founded and built this Great Country.
Now they're treated like dirt from this Executive branch.

 

Where is the crisis??? Cops in general are not waking up each morning thinking about killing anyone or even trying to change minds about anything. They are simply doing a job, few others could do. On the other hand you have BLM, the Panther's and probably others, WANTING chaos in the US, very possibly thinking for political reasons. Both these groups and those possible other, could be stopped in their tracks in hours and Obama could help (if he wanted to) and has decided in all probability, getting the minority vote out to vote is more important... If you think otherwise, watch the RNC protest next week and the efforts to disrupt a political event.

 

It is folks like you that cause the current problems to linger, because you don't see a problem that means there isn't one.

 

OH!!! There is a problem and the problem has a source. But it's an organized problem, IMO outside the legal system and led from the top. As said, the problems you think can be negotiated, can't be done over social media, it's our leaders and most of them are simply scared to act...my opinion.

 

You're mistaken SBB.

It's folks like you (and especially Obama) that are stuck in one thing, and one thing ONLY when it comes to race issues:

Only blacks suffer, all problems are the white man's fault, and the only way black youths are killed is by the police department, not another black man.

 

WTF can this jackwad add?

'My People" Holder told me I was a coward. Eff these clowns. THEY ARE THE RACISTS.

 

It's too late to take this man seriously when it comes to race relations. He had the opportunity at the very beginning of his term to stamp out the bogus attempts at calling anything that happens to a minority a racist event and he didn't, he just threw fuel on the fire and continued on that way for seven and a half years. Now that the country is finally starting to blame him for the racial tension he turns around and blames the country. How typical.

 

Pres. Obama calls for continued talks about race

As if he knows anything about NASCAR

 

It is people like you that help create a problem when there is in fact not one. Not to say that racial divides do not exist, but they would be much smaller if certain people did not look to take offense at everything.

Means the "problem" is much less than portrayed by Obama and his henchmen.

 

In fact, it is people like you who see a problem everywhere, especially when there isn't one.

 

I think we should have a conversation about how corrupt his FBI director, IRS and AG are.

I also think we should have a conversation about just what the hell he was doing walking guns to the Mexican Drug Cartels, guns used to kill Americans. In fact, at least one ended up in the Paris slaughter and another ended up with El Chappo.

And then we can have another conversation about just why the hell he is the biggest arms dealer the world has seen since WWII. And then we can find out just what the Hillary and the Annex were doing in Benghazi and if they ware running guns to Sunni terrorists in Syria.

And then we can find out why so many of ISIS arms weapons and vehicles are American made.

Yes. I'm looking forward to having a conversation on these things.

And lets have a conversation about his "the average family will save $2500/year under my health insurance plan."

And "if you like your doctor, you can keep your doctor." "If you like your plan, you can keep your plan."

 

blacks care way too much about being black - their skin color doesn't make them special.

 

We've not stopped for even a single second having a dialogue on race. It's constant, ongoing, and I don't know why the President acts like this is some new idea that has never been tried before. How much more dialogue do we need?

 

The last thing an Obama wants is an honest debate of Race relations.
Because under the Obama Presidency blacks have fared very poorly.
Unemployment and poverty for blacks is near historic.
All the Middle class gains Blacks made under former President Bush
have been obliverated.
Obama is relegated to Token Black appointments.
Like Susan Rice and Loretta Lynch { based more on Obama senior adviser
Valerie Jarrett }.

 

And the problem here is?

 

Ill agree, but let us have diologue, serious diologue that discusses solutions.

Were I a BLM leader I would dispense with the protest marches and in their place sponsor and hold rallies in fixed venues across the country. To these rallies I would evite speakers from across the spectrum (extremists excluded) to speak from their perspective and offer positive or realistic solutions. I would admonish the speakers to limit their scope to positive solutions, no soliloquys on a past generation's injustice, no diatribes on "welfare queens", keep the focus on the reality of the problem today and how we are going to improve tomorrow.

The current optics and message IMO is not inviting or inclusive. It's not generating constructive diologue it's generating argument.

You've got the nation's attention now let's do something positive with it.

Labour

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We aren't dialoging, we're drawing up sides and arguing. In this thread alone we're dismissing the Black man's concerns like they don't exist.

While the Harvard study on police use of force showed that lethal force is used equally between white and black suspects it did show that blacks are far more likely to be treated violently during police interactions.

The underlying impetus that has the black community expressing concern is real. Its not going to get better on its own we need to address it.

I don't feel the ultimate problem is with the police, it's a symptom only. The problem is legislative, we've (this a universal American issue) allowed to become law too many minor rules and regulations that have nothing to do with criminal activity. To enforce fine payment for these minor non criminal infractions we have tasked the police to collect and jail for nonpayment. Read the Furggison Report! This flawed policy is pushing the police deep into personal lives causing financial ruin and loss of liberty. Rightly so the Black community is chaffing at the intrusion.

There are real problems and there are real solutions. Let's find them. Start first by taking the jack boot off the poor, that'll relieve a lot of pressure.

Cheers
Labour



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Obama complaining about a race problem is like the boy who shot both his parents and then complains about being an orphan.

 

Agreed, Obama has abdicated his role in this, he offers no positive solutions. It's an epic failure.

Hopefully a rational voice will emerge soon.

Labour

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Hang in there---187 days until HE'S GONE!

 

Like who?

 

The race problem in the United States is that black men get black women pregnant and think nothing of it. And black women have numerous children with numerous men and their only thought is to have the government pay for it. So they sit on welfare, accomplish nothing but having more children. Then these black children grow up with no fathers, no discipline, refuse to act civilized, adopt prison gang black mannerisms, learn nothing, sell drugs, shoot each other for no reason, and blame white people.

Then you have liberals like obama bemoan the occasional black person that's shot by cops, mostly richly deserved and ignore the 99% of black deaths that are caused by each other.

That's America's race problem.

 

Funny, true and a not a bad analogy.

Honestly, I don't think Obama can relate on a number of levels. He lacks the human experience necessary to understand the life that the majority of Americans lead. He's disconnected certainly from the Black experience and his pampered upbringing through early adult life has left him compassionless for what he deems lesser beings.

Labour

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Right, this is back to a legislative or policy problem. We've created the environment by dictating to women that fined themselves on welfare that they cannot make money they cannot have a man in the house. They become captured and we do it when they are the weakest, pregnant or with a young child. It's a system setup to fail, not maliciously but through unthinking ignorance.

I'll agree that welfare dependence creates an ugly human being with almost no attributes that make them a societal positive. We did it, we created the dependence that separates the welfare class from the rest of society and the market place. As long as government maintains these ties and limits there can be no organic change. Organic change being that that is created when an individual is forced to interact with society at large to survive or be self sufficient.

Labour