FBI investigating Russian involvement in leaked DNC e-mails-

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  1. Gorn Captain

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    http://www.cnn.com/2016/07/25/politics/democratic-convention-dnc-emails-russia/


    Now, you'll notice something VERY interesting-

    All the Trump fans will vehemently deny (or deflect, dodge, etc) this idea.

    But why? Why should Trump fans...or Trump....care if the Russians were involved in this?

    UNLESS....it's an indication that-

    A. the Russians are actively wanting to help Trump? But why?

    and/or B. Trump knows the Russians are actively working to help him, on orders from his "highly respected"* pal, Vladimir Putin? But why???


    *(actual comment about Putin from Trump)
     
  2. WertyFArmer

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    Because Russia hasn't gotten anything it wanted under a more flexible Obama and Hilary as Sec. of State? lol
     
  3. Michael Corleone

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    Why don't they actually investigate the content of the emails?

    They were quite quick to jump in on this one. I guess Obama and hillary got that axe to grind against Putin and want to put the whole DNC leak on him, instead of the entire DNC taking responsibility.
     
  4. bois darc chunk

    bois darc chunk Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    This is very concerning to me… not that the emails were disclosed as much as another country meddling in our political process.
     
  5. Guyzilla

    Guyzilla Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Putin, and his protégé Trump, are so sympatico, that top or bottom does become an issue. There are some powerful egos wanting release.

    As you know from that 70s era flick, the mechanic, when the protégé becomes the master, he must eliminate the old guard.

    http://wallpoper.com/images/00/27/21/92/nuclear-bomb_00272192.jpg
     
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    Trump = Manchurian Candidate.
     
  7. Steve N

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    Correct me if I'm wrong, but so far the only people accusing the Russians of hacking the DNS's email are Clinton and her surrogates. Is there any proof Russia did the hacking and is there any proof Russia did the hacking to benefit Trump? To me this looks like another Clinton con job just like when she had DNC interns protest Trump events only to let people believe they were Sanders supporters. There is nothing Clinton and the DNC can say that will have any credibility.
     
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    The importance of the emails is the corruption they reveal. It is that corruption that will likely cost the Democrats dearly in November. The Democrats are not even denying the validity of those emails.

    Attempting to blame Trump or the Russians or whoever may get you points in your silly little progressive echo chamber, but isn't going to mitigate any of the damage in the real world.
     
  9. Ronstar

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    Russians have every reason to help Trump.

    Trump is threatening to leave the WTO, to abandon the Baltic states if they are attacked by Russia, to engage in trade wars, to block immigrants and tourists from Europe.

    Trump also wants to get along well with Putin.

    Trump is Russia's dream come true!!!!!! They have every reason to help him win in November.
     
  10. Robert

    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Obama gave Iran plenty though. Obama gave communist Cuba plenty.
     
  11. Steve N

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    Your opinions are not the equivalent of proof, they are merely Clinton talking points.
     
  12. JakeJ

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    It is irrelevant who hacked the DNC. The topic is what is in the emails.

    I have no doubt every major country is constantly engaging in spying on other countries. And that they and us always have. It is just juvenile and naive to think otherwise.

    The Democrats do not deny the validity of the emails, so the ONLY real topic is what do the emails say?
     
  13. Ronstar

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    Trump gave an interview to Meet The Press, confirming my comments
     
  14. JakeJ

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    No, there is NO proof and the link of the OP says so.
     
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    Hillary's Campaign Be like:

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  16. Robert

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    There is nothing wrong with Putin if you actually do love Obama.

    Obama has real nerve. Look what he did to Libya. Due to Obama, the ME caught fire.

    How many troops does Putin have in Syria or in Iraq?

    Come on. You know that Obama loves to run over other countries.
     
  17. JakeJ

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    Yes, since Hillary Clinton wants the Cold War back and even war with Russia, so do her little beta minions.

    I would hope our president can get along with Russia and Putin rather than Hillary's goal of nuclear holocaust with Russia.
     
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    You're wrong.
     
  19. bois darc chunk

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    The FBI is investigating the hack. Also, CrowdStrike, a cyber security firm, has confirmed that they detected a hack on the DNC servers definitively sourced to the GRU, Russia's military intelligence agency, back in June. They also believe there was a separate hack by another source, as well. Source

    As far as it benefitting Trump, that's a given. Just as anything negative toward Trump benefits Clinton, the same is true that something negative about Clinton would benefit Trump.
     
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    How Putin Weaponized Wikileaks to Influence the Election of an American President - Defense One

    "Evidence suggests that a Russian intelligence group was the source of the most recent Wikileaks intel dump, which was aimed to influence the U.S. election.

    Close your eyes and imagine that a hacking group backed by Russian President Vladimir Putin broke into the email system of a major U.S. political party. The group stole thousands of sensitive messages and then published them through an obliging third party in a way that was strategically timed to influence the United States presidential election. Now open your eyes, because that’s what just happened.

    ...It’s the same group that hit the State Department, the White House, and the civilian email of the Joint Chiefs of Staff. The group’s modus operandi (a spearphishing attack that uploads a distinctive remote access tool on the target’s computer) is well known to cyber-security researchers.
    ...
    Other security firms offered independent analysis and reached the same conclusion. The group Fidelis undertook their own investigation and found Crowdstrike to be correct."

    More at link.

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    More, from WaPO, with a short 2 minute video explaining the hacking.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/polit...385_story.html
     
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    What if the FBI announces that they are conducting a criminal investigation regarding the Russians hacking the DNC in order to influence our election? Do they have any credibility?
     
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    LOL...you guys are so shallow it's almost sad. You could give two (*)(*)(*)(*)s that Clinton's servers containing US secrets were more than likely hacked by Russia, N Korea, China, whoever, but now you're spinning this email dump that proves just how malicious and vicious the DNC is managed as some Russia/Trump conspiracy to defeat Hillary????????? Come on, corn, that's such BS.
     
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    Are you asking me if the FBI has credibility when it comes to investigating issues having major political and election fall out? And do you want me to believe they can determine if the Russians hacked into DNC servers and not Clinton's? And if they actually determine someone from Russia hacked into the server who are they going to arrest, Putin?
     
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    https://www.yahoo.com/news/exclusiv...russians-and-wider-penetration-154121061.html

    this is getting crazier by the hour

    Just weeks after she started preparing opposition research files on Donald Trump’s campaign chairman Paul Manafort last spring, Democratic National Committee consultant Alexandra Chalupa got an alarming message when she logged into her personal Yahoo email account.

    “Important action required,” read a pop-up box from a Yahoo security team that is informally known as “the Paranoids.” “We strongly suspect that your account has been the target of state-sponsored actors.”
     
  25. JakeJ

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    What are Democrats complaining about? It is the DNC and Clinton's stance th at email secrecy doesn't matter anyway. And since no one has been indicted there was nothing illegal about obtaining and releasing the information anyway. Since that is the position of Hillary Clinton and the Democratic Party all this is irrelevant regardless.

    The only relevancy is that Democrats are now insisting, ironically, that foreign powers and hackers could have hacked Clinton's emails. Since those emails discussed security in Benghazi, Hilary Clinton very likely is directly responsible for the Islamic terrorists who attacked knowing the vulnerabilities and lack of security. In real terms, Clinton via her unsecured emails is the reason the Benghazi attack happened in the first place.

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    Do bad Chapula didn't have a rag to wipe the server with, huh?
     

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