Colin Kaepernick, The National Anthem Is a Celebration of Slavery

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  1. Pardy

    Pardy Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Hunt them down
     
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    So, I give up a room for the night in my house, and you refuse to leave. I don't have a right to kick you out of my house the next morning? SC didn't even kill or capture anyone, they fired warning shots to get the union to leave. The south didn't want to kill the Union soldiers, they wanted to be left alone.
     
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    There were no people in the north that were in rebellion? Then how did Lincoln get shot?
     
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    Liberals are only constitutional and conservatives are unconstitutional? I bet you don't see it that way, today. But it may be accurate.
     
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    That's not the US, that's a local government. The states or cities in which those actions happened. The US as a whole did not believe in what you wrote. For the most part, that is the democrats who did all that, do you hold them responsible for what their party did as much as you hold the entire US at fault for what states did? Cause I am sure if you do, you didn't vote for Obama.
     
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    While I'm not a D, I do agree. Our rights are from the constitution, set up and controlled by the gov't.
    Wouldn't you agree? Who wrote and protects the constitution?
     
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    This revisionism is really quite transparent.

    Wilson served as president before this supposed southern Democrat defection. Wilson, a southern Democrat is the freekin poster child of modern progressivism. Through no manipulation of history could Wilson be thought of as a modern Republican.

    And Wilson was a raging racist.

    “Segregation is not humiliating, but a benefit, and ought to be so regarded by you gentlemen.”–Woodrow Wilson

    FDR, another beloved democrat; spectacularly racist.

    How is it that all these racist democrats fled to the Republican party but didn't bring along their other stupid democrat belief systems?
     
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    If one is opposed to slavery, would that not mean all slave owners? Think about it.
     
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    The DP has always been dedicated to enslaving or exterminating black Americans.
     
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    The collective. Cute.

    I don't think you understand secession. Nor do I think you are aware of federal land grants in the 1860s in the south. Nor do I think you are aware of the lands siezed by the federal government and given to others (in luding freed slaves out of spite, which I find amusing, while a troubling position to put them in). The war had nothing to do with fair access to federally held land. This is a red herring.
     
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    You're funny. What the CSA claimed as theirs, belonged to the USA. And didn't they fire upon a fort that was part of the USA?
     
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    i think the mercs happened to be blacks because they were promised freedom for fighting for the kings army
     
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    I think he meant territory wise they never moved out of the southern states till much later.
     
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    As stated in the Declaration, our rights come from nature and nature's god. The constitution was passed and ratified to set up a system of government to guarantee these rights, not provide them. If a law is passed that denies you your natural rights, it doesn't mean you do not have that right. It means the system failed to protect those rights.....

    So the Government came from the Constitution, the Constitution was written by the peoples representatives and it was ratified by each state. It is wrong to think that the Government created the Constitution and there by created our rights. As humans, we are granted inalienable rights when we were created.

    Man created government to secure those rights, not the other way around.
     
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    There is no mention of blacks. You imagined it.
     
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    If you, me, and a couple dozen people all jointly own a property that you sell us from property that you already own, if you choose to unilaterally withdraw from that agreement you don't get sole ownership of that property again.
     
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    New Jersey is the South now?
     
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    Think of it like you think of Kosova. They voted to leave. So did the South.

    Why did Abe invade?

    Nobody got hurt in Ft. Sumpter.

    You know, that was a very up to date fort at the time. It is called a FORT for a good reason. It was built to handle canon fire. And it did so well, Maj. Anderson lost no men to the confederates.

    Naturally the Union had handed over other forts. For them to stubbornly cling to 2 forts meant Abe was able to invade Virginia.
     
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    Wait, so if Iran fired on one of our military bases for hours and no one got hurt, that wouldn't mean that we are at war and that the Iranians started it?

    When an enemy army fires on a military base, that is an act of war.

    The South voted to leave unilaterally. That did not give them a right to collectively owned property.
     
  23. The Wyrd of Gawd

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    Well, it is the flag of slavery and Jim Crow.
     
  24. Robert

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    Actually, one can claim that both sides had proper claim to Ft. Sumter.

    Be that as it may, the North either blundered big time by not hauling butt out of there or Abe did it to get a war.

    When he invaded, he got that war he wanted.

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    Let me try to clarify.

    Ft. Sumpter was in the harbor of what State?
     
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    SC was one of the founding members of the confederacy.

    Suggesting they "wanted to be left alone" really doesn't make much sense to me. They had ambitions far beyond that.

    They probably wanted their slavery to be left alone. Maybe that is what you mean.
     

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