Report: Charlotte Protesters Tried to Throw Photographer Into a Fire <<MOD WARNING>>

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  1. Aphotic

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    We hold these Truths to be self-evident, that all Men are &#8230; endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights&#8230;. That to secure these Rights, Governments are instituted among Men&#8230;. That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these Ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its Foundation on such Principles, and organizing its Powers in such Form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness. &#8230; Mankind are more disposed to suffer, while Evils are sufferable, than to right themselves by abolishing the Forms to which they are accustomed. But when a long Train of Abuses and Usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object, evinces a Design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their Right, it is their Duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security. Declaration of Independence (1776).


    The supreme law of the land, quoted above. Heres an excerpt on an article about the government and the powers that be specifically and purposefully overriding the constitution and declaration of independence, and mindset of our forefathers to ensure they stay in power:

    "Still think the idea of a right to alter or abolish any of our present governments is too radical or extreme? Well, some people certainly think so, and they&#8217;ve taken steps to make sure nothing like what happened in the American Revolution ever happens again. First, they have taken pains to discredit the Declaration and to restrict the way it is taught in government approved curricula and government sponsored schools (including universities). Second, they have enacted statutes to strongly discourage any &#8220;throwing off&#8221; of the government, to wit:
    Rebellion or insurrection. Whoever incites, sets on foot, assists, or engages in any rebellion or insurrection against the authority of the United States or the laws thereof &#8230; shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than ten years, or both&#8230;. 18 U.S.C. §2383.Seditious conspiracy. If two or more persons &#8230; in any place subject to the jurisdiction of the United States, conspire to overthrow, put down, or to destroy by force the Government of the United States, or to levy war against them, or to oppose by force the authority thereof, &#8230; they shall each be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than twenty years, or both. 18 U.S.C. §2384.Advocating overthrow of Government. Whoever knowingly or willfully advocates, abets, advises, or teaches the duty, necessity, desirability, or propriety of overthrowing or destroying the government of the United States or the government of any State &#8230; by force or violence, * * * Shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than twenty years, or both&#8230;. 18 U.S.C. §2385.
    Just let the above words sink in for a moment. First we have a quotation from the founding document of our nation, beloved and cherished by Americans for well over 200 years, to the effect that people have not only the right, but the duty, to throw off an abusive, despotic or tyrannical government which tramples on their individual rights.

    Then we have laws enacted by that same nation having the primary purpose of ensuring that no one ever overthrows the existing government, conspires to overthrow it, or advocates its overthrow &#8211; without regard to whether those actions might actually be justified because the government has become abusive, despotic or tyrannical. Which illustrates a truism &#8211; the people have an absolute right to alter or abolish any given form of government, but the persons in power absolutely never want people to exercise that right.

    It should be painfully obvious this is one reason (among others) why the Declaration of Independence has not been seriously regarded as law by legal scholars for over 100 years (and why it has been denigrated in academia). If people actually took the words of the Declaration at face value it would create all kinds of problems for our modern world, and people in academia, law and government have a vested interest in maintaining the status quo.

    Belief in a government of limited powers, or (God help us!) a government that can be discarded from time to time, would put politicians and government workers of all stripes (as well as those in the symbiotic fields of law and education) at risk for losing their jobs &#8211; an intolerable risk. That is one reason why mainstream political culture left the worldview of the American founders in the ash heap of history long ago."

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    Terrorists? I guess Ben Franklin was a terrorist also?
     
  2. yardmeat

    yardmeat Well-Known Member

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    If that's true, it is absolutely despicable . . . as are the rightwing calls for blatant misuse of force.
     
  3. micfranklin

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    I know what the fyck I said, I stand by that. I did NOT condone throwing photographers in fire.

    No. See above comment.

    Then stop trying to link us to advocating for terrorism.

    I did not say it was okay.
     
  4. Brewskier

    Brewskier Well-Known Member

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    So you're comparing "Danny Booth" to Ben Franklin?

    It's amazing to watch the left compare black thugs in BLM to the Founders of the country. It's fascinating.
     
  5. ArmySoldier

    ArmySoldier Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You TRIED to PRETEND you didn't condone it. But everyone knows what the "I condemn this...but" means.

    Interrogation 101. Catch someone in a "but" and you've got them by the butt.

    You fully support the terrorism in Charlotte. It's clear as day.
     
  6. Your Best Friend

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    Trying to normalize this race riot by putting it into a historical context (See, it's okay. We've had riots and violence before) is rather disingenuous
    and the more you try to shield your comment by rationalizing it the more it becomes obvious you are at odds with yourself.
     
  7. Brewskier

    Brewskier Well-Known Member

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    Predictable reply. "Condemn" the left with a throwaway line, and quickly deflect to the right.
     
  8. Aphotic

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    I didn't say "See, we had riots before!" I said this nation was born of riots. I'm not rationalizing anything, nor am I apologizing for stating fact. Get triggered all you like. It's hilarious to see normally small government people arguing for massive government.
     
  9. ArmySoldier

    ArmySoldier Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    ^^^^

    This person is comparing Ben Franklin- an opposition of Tyranny in a place that was not even a nation-

    To the bigot left wing terror network currently burning down Charlotte.

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  10. yardmeat

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    Predictable reply. Downplay a flat condemnation of the left (how the hell is it a "throwaway line" when applied to the left but not to the right . . . literally the same line is being applied to both) and call any recognition of the the fact that there are rightwingers (even on this thread) calling for violence too a "deflection."
     
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    Aphotic Banned

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    Deflection. Nice try though. Care to address my post? Or are you just going to keep posting the words of people condoning horrible things?
     
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    Foolardi Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    How about ALL the Killings in Chicago { Obama's home town }
    Over 3,600 dead in Chicago since Obama was sworn-in as President
    Name one person killed in Chicago.Yet you can site just one Black
    person killed by a white cop in the line of duty.
    You are a disgusting liar and deviant.I just proved it.
    3,600 lives don't count because the media didn't glum onto any one
    in particular.How about the young black children sitting on the front porch
    who got mowed down. There was more than one Chicago Child killed that way.
    Summer of 2014 Chicago girl,11, killed in west side by gunfire.
    June of 2012 {7 yr.old girl},Heaven,shot dead in Chicago
    6 month old girl dies after being shot 5 times,in Chicago.While the father
    was changing her diaper in the front seat of his van.
    " The city of Chicago should be outraged that a
    6 month old baby could be shot and killed in our city. "
     
  13. yardmeat

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    How many passed-out reporters did Franklin try to throw in a fire?
     
  14. Lil Mike

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    I saw that, it was pretty hilarious. That guy Harrigan sure has a pair, because a couple of protesters suddenly showed up out of nowhere and Megan had to break away.
     
  15. ArmySoldier

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    Your post is not comparable to anything.

    You fully support the terrorism in Charlotte, Baltimore, Wisconsin, and every other town the homies tore up. You are trying to compare Ben Franklin to a young gang banger throwing rocks at police officers. Innocent police officers. Who have these officers hurt that your friends are currently assaulting?

    The homies riot before any facts come out. They rioting in Wisconsin then realized the homie shot--- BY a black man.

    This is unorganized terrorism fully supported by the left wing. We are 100% not surprised you would try something as stupid as to relate this to Ben Franklin.

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    There we go. Backtracking, then personal insults.

    can't say we didn't see this coming by the bigoted left wing.
     
  16. Foolardi

    Foolardi Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Your posts are condoning acts like what we saw on TV last night.
    That means YOU are part of the problem.
     
  17. Brewskier

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    D'Souza's book "End of Racism" has a really good explanation of how the "bad negro" character has been a revered and celebrated figure in the black community going all the way back to the slavery days. Back then, the "bad negro" would work slower than the others, disobey the white master, break tools, etc. Now, the "bad negro" is violating the "white man's laws" in society. That's why gangbangers and drug dealers are not condemned in the black community, but glorified in the culture.

    They never made the distinction between it being OK to disobey a white slavemaster, and it being wrong to violate the laws of a society in a majority white nation. They are both treated as morally justified, and the left (for political and ideological reasons), validates their views.
     
  18. Aphotic

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    Sure. I agree, Chicago is a mess. How about the kid shot in the head while sleeping by the cops serving a warrant in the middle of the night, kicking the door in - all at a house where the wanted person was visible and evident throughout the day and where the cops knew children were?

    Or, the kid in Georgia who's face was blown off by a flash bang while serving a warrant at the wrong house?

    Or, the other guy in Georgia shot through the walls of his house because the cops kicked the door in and just started shooting, after a junkie that stole the man's car reported finding the drugs in the man's car, and after he reported the car stolen used the address to go in commando and kill an innocent person?

    Or, the many and various unarmed people killed by police in the last 30 days ALONE?

    How about them? They're just statistics? None of those cops went to jail. Not one.

    WHY is it OK that this happens? WHY are we OK ignoring the reality that these are MAJOR problems when American homes can be raided by government agents, people killed, property seized and destroyed, all on bogus info, and not one of them goes to jail? Why can't we CHANGE that?

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    D'Souza is a felon scumbag that would obviously not be cared about if he were shot by police, now would he?
     
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    So you believe in 2nd Amendment solutions?
     
  20. ArmySoldier

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    I think this is more about destruction. I think they just want blood and to take good things, and make them bad. They want people to suffer. Innocent people, as we clearly see.

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    He doesn't know what to believe. He keeps changing his story.
     
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    It's very predictable for someone to enter a thread that focuses on left-wing people behaving badly (especially if they are non-white minorities) and redirect the conversation to right-wingers (who are most likely white). It's a standard left-wing tactic.
     
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    See! You did it again. Is there any
    meaningful distinction between my characterization of what you said and your actual statement? No!
    By putting violent protest in a historical context you are normalizing and rationalizing it.

    If you've said anywhere that the rioting in Charlotte is wrong I've missed it.
    When you claim not to have rationalized you are not being honest with yourself, or others.

    ??? How is any of this
    a call for massive government? That's a real stretch and a magical imaginary connection you are making for some reason.
     
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    I though so as well.But later in the broadcast Harrigan explained he had
    2 security guards nearby.I saw what looked like maybe a couple bodyguards
    near him.But they were dressed like the rampaging protestors.
    That black chick seemed like at any moment she was about to smack
    Harrigan upside the head.Like Ethel Merman and her huge purse in :
    - It's a Mad,Mad,Mad,Mad World - { 1963 }
     
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    Story remains the same. I don't condone violence, but I also don't ignore that America was born of it. If you want to deny history, so be it. I can't help you there.
     
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    Crime and incivility. Fundamental change, brought to us by Obama, Sharpton, the Democrat party, the liberal media and other liberal talking heads. Soon to be in a major city near you.
     

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