Florida residents should consider Dr. Jill Stein and the Green Party.

DennisTate · Oct 23, 2016

Especially if she and her team will begin to seriously discuss the alternative
theory on how best to begin rapid stabilization of the climate that has been put
forward by New Mexico biologist Car. Cantrell.

https://www.facebook.com/groups/americansfortrump/permalink/1211978248848184/?hc_location=ufi
Americans for Trump

Every vote for Dr. Jill Stein takes a vote away from HILLARY!

A New Mexico biologist has an alternative theory on how best to stabilize the climate that fits with Isaiah 35.

......Global Warming II by Carl Cantrell

So how is our problem of continental drying causing global warming? It all has to do with vegetation and sunlight. When sun light hits a plant, it causes a process which we call photosynthesis where the energy from the sun light creates oxygen for us to breath, water for us to drink, and is stored as sugar for plants and animals to use. When the same sun light hits the soil, all of its energy turns into heat and is radiated back into the atmosphere, carried away by running surface water such as rain fall, is carried away to other areas by our winds, and diffuses down into the soil towards the earth's crust. All of this warms our planet increasing its average temperature.

Therefore, the less vegetation you have on the planet, the more sunlight is being turned into heat and the warmer the planet becomes. This is very critical because warmer and dryer winds dry out other land areas faster decreasing the vegetation on those land areas. Less humidity in the air also reflects less sun light back out into space so that more sun light strikes the earth and more heat is generated.

The truth is that you can do more to decrease global warming by just reducing the average temperature for the Sahara Desert by one or two degrees than if we humans completely quit using fossil fuels and returned to the cave.

So, how would you start working to resolve this problem? Easy, cool the deserts and get some vegetation growing on them as soon as possible. But the method is much more complex than that. You have to use the prevailing trade winds in relation to the deserts to get the best results as quickly as possible and it will be extremely expensive.

Then we build desalination plants along the coast near these water sheds and pipe water to the tops or ridges of the water sheds

This will do a number of things. First, it will increase the moisture in the desert soil so that it will develop water tables and water will begin to run in the streams. This water will increase the amount of vegetation in the area and decrease the amount of heat being generated by sun light cooling the watered area and all areas down wind of the watered area. As more available water evaporates, it will cool the air and reflect more sun light back out into space cooling the area even more. Cooler and more humid air will have less of a heating effect on areas down wind and will reflect more sun light back into space in those areas cooling areas we won't be watering yet. Cooler and more humid air will also have less of a warming effect on our seas and oceans.

Rain water running off of cooler soil will decrease the heating effect on our oceans and our planet crusts which will decrease catastrophic storm activities for other areas and seismic activity for the entire planet. Also, returning more ocean water to the surface and aquifers of our continents will lower the sea levels providing more usable land for us to farm and build on.

With cooler desert areas and increasing vegetation, less water will evaporate from our deserts increasing the amount of surface water even more and increasing the amount of vegetation and animal life by huge amounts because deserts currently take up more than 20% of our land surface. Populations will be able to spread out and there will be less competition for existing land areas.

This strategy has to be done in steps with the first step being to begin slowing the rate at which our global warming is increasing. We need to focus on that until we have brought it to a point to where the temperature is not increasing any more and is reasonably stable. While we are doing this, we need to come to a global consensus of just how cool we want to cool our planet down to. If we cool it down too much, we will begin to have devastatingly harsh winters in large populated areas and even cause an ice age to set in.

Then we begin cooling the planet down to a point which will be most beneficial for all countries or the planet as a whole. We need to gradually bring the temperature down because there may be a lag effect in which the planet will continue cooling after we stop increasing our efforts to cool it off more. We may even want to stop cooling the planet once or twice before we reach our targeted temperatures to see if there is a lag effect

We need to start working on this as soon as possible because, if the planet reaches a point to where it is warming faster than our technology can possibly stop or reverse this warming trend, then our planet is lost and all life will cease to exist on this planet within a relatively short period of time. We will need to start with the largest and hottest deserts because cooling them will have the greatest benefit in the least time. (Global Warming II by biologist Carl Cantrell).
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DennisTate · Oct 23, 2016

Wow!

I'm impressed!

http://www.slate.com/articles/podca...l_candidate_jill_stein_on_foreign_policy.html

Jill Stein Pitches a Green Foreign Policy

The Green Party presidential candidate says de-escalating tensions with Russia should be our top priority. And neither major party candidate is up to the job.
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Russia also deserves credit for their stand against GMO's.

http://www.politicalforum.com/current-events/466314-russia-says-no-gmo-seeds.html

Russia Says No to GMO Seeds

DennisTate said: ↑

I hate to admit it.......

but on the issue of GMO seeds........ Russia is far ahead of us and they deserve credit for this stance!

Frankly....... I term myself "pro-life"..... .but if all that is meant by pro-life is to be against
third term abortions........
and if I support GMO technology by my silence........

then am I a hypocrite to call myself "pro-life?"

http://russia-insider.com/en/busine...-aims-food-supply-thats-cleanest-world/ri8790
Russia Says No to GMO Seeds, Aims for Food Supply That's 'Cleanest in the World'
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DennisTate · Oct 23, 2016

The response so far to this poll indicates that Americans and Canadians want to
discuss a faster acting and more practical step toward stabilization of the climate than
a carbon tax or cap and trade system that might not actually decrease atmospheric
temperatures for a century or more.

http://www.politicalforum.com/opini...saving-new-orleans-florida-rising-oceans.html
The Sahara Forest Project...and saving New Orleans and Florida from rising oceans!
......

Is turning deserts green a good response to climate change?Voters 25. You have already voted on this poll

No, only a carbon tax of some form will stop climate change! 1.........4.00%

Yes, plants are both a carbon as well as a water sink! 9.............36.00%

No, we should never engage in geo-engineering of any form or shape, EVER!!! 6........24.00%

Yes, with one billion hungry, how can we go wrong by producing more food? 14........56.00%
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DennisTate said: ↑

Did you know that there is an Islamic prophecy that the Islamic desert regions would be turned green in the latter days?????

This topic is of special interest to me because I live about a hundred miles from the Bay of Fundy. I live five kms from the ocean on the eastern part of Nova Scotia. In my area the difference between low tide to high tide is about one meter! The land form of the Bay of Fundy has a funnelling effect on tidal waters and so parts of the Fundy have a difference of fifteen to seventeen meters between low to high tide!

The question on my mind would be if ocean levels were to rise about thirty centimeters in my part of Nova Scotia, would they rise by four or five meters along parts of the Fundy????

There are 143,000 acres of farmland taken back from the Fundy by dikes that are probably in the position of the proverbial canary in a coal mine in relation to rising ocean levels!

Every cubic meter of H2O added to the water table of nations in the Middle EAst will NOT be on top of New Orleans, Florida, Holland, Bangladesh or those 143,000 acres along the Fundy!!!!!

I felt a huge sense of relief when I first heard about The Sahara Forest Project!

https://www.facebook.com/SaharaForestProject
Sahara Forest Project
April 19

......
http://www.angelfire.com/moon2/koran/index.blog?topic_id=1021110
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DennisTate · Oct 24, 2016

Here is a major reason why I think that the residents of Florida should move away from Hillary.

http://www.politicalforum.com/polit...t-work-fast-enough-address-wais-collapse.html
A carbon tax will NOT work fast enough to address WAIS collapse.

DennisTate said: ↑

A tax on carbon will take centuries to address the real issues associated with the impending collapse of the West Antarctic Ice Sheet!

http://www.sciencemag.org/news/2015...antarctic-ice-sheet-raise-sea-levels-3-meters
Just a nudge could collapse West Antarctic Ice Sheet, raise sea levels 3 meters

We need to be researching and discussing options that can work much faster!

Every cubic meter of ocean water that is desalinated and added to the water table of North Africa or Qatar of Jordan or Israel...... will NOT be putting pressure on the oceans to overflow New Orleans, Bangladesh, The Netherlands and parts of Florida!

Japanese engineers don't merely design good cars!

http://www.ssb-foundation.com
Sahara Solar Breeder Foundation
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atheiststories · Oct 24, 2016

And where do we get the money to pay for all of these pipelines... that are built in other countries.

DennisTate · Oct 24, 2016

atheiststories said: ↑

And where do we get the money to pay for all of these pipelines... that are built in other countries.
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My idea is..... to audit the Federal Reserve and find out why the USA is eighteen trillion dollars in debt
because I have read that the Fed... is supposed to pay back the bulk of the interest earned on the interest
generated by loaning money to the USA government.

http://www.politicalforum.com/united-states/211515-who-actually-owns-fed-why-must-end-2.html

Thread: Who Actually Owns the Fed and Why That Must End

dad2three said: ↑

Anyone understand how markets were manipulated pre federal resserve and the US had a 2008 crisis less than every 5 years on average PRE federal reserve???

Facts: Yes, the Federal Reserve banks are privately owned, but they are controlled by the publically-appointed Board of Governors. The Federal Reserve banks merely execute the monetary policy choices made by the Board. In addition, nearly all the interest the Federal Reserve collects on government bonds is rebated to the Treasury each year, so the government does not pay any net interest to the Fed.

....Moreover, monetary policy is controlled by the publically-appointed Board of Governors, not by the Federal Reserve banks.

Fact: Independent accounting firms conduct full financial audits of the Federal Reserve banks and the Board of Governors every year. The Fed is also subject to certain types of audits from the Government Accounting Office.

Facts: The Federal Reserve rebates its net earnings to the Treasury every year. Consequently, the interest the Treasury pays to the Fed is returned, so the money borrowed from the Fed has no net interest obligation for the Treasury. The government could print its own currency independent of the Fed, but there would be no effective safeguards against abuse of this power for political gain.

MORE HERE

http://www.publiceye.org/conspire/flaherty/Federal_Reserve.html
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The Donald is off to a good start on this.

http://www.infowars.com/trump-calls-for-auditing-the-fed/

Trump Calls For Auditing the Fed

GOP frontrunner makes good on promise to call for audit of Fed

“It is so important to audit the Federal Reserve, and yet Ted Cruz missed the vote on the bill that would allow this to be done,” Trump tweeted out.

During Friday’s appearance on the Alex Jones Show, Trump insider Roger Stone was asked if Trump would call for an audit, and Stone said that he thought so but would pass the message along to the Trump campaign.

“He’s not a big fan of the Fed,” Stone pointed out. “He is scaring the central bankers; he is scaring the Washington/Wall Street/D.C. consultant/lobbyist class.”

“He’s deeply suspicious of the Fed and I think he is open-minded about the Fed… I’d suspect you’d get an audit of the Fed [with Trump].”
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atheiststories · Oct 24, 2016

DennisTate said: ↑

My idea is..... to audit the Federal Reserve and find out why the USA is eighteen trillion dollars in debt
because I have read that the Fed... is supposed to pay back the bulk of the interest earned on the interest
generated by loaning money to the USA government.

http://www.politicalforum.com/united-states/211515-who-actually-owns-fed-why-must-end-2.html

Thread: Who Actually Owns the Fed and Why That Must End

The Donald is off to a good start on this.

http://www.infowars.com/trump-calls-for-auditing-the-fed/

Trump Calls For Auditing the Fed

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The Fed is audited every year. Here are their financial statements.

http://www.federalreserve.gov/monetarypolicy/files/combinedfinstmt2015.pdf

Just face it, people are making money off of people like you through advertising dollars. It's a conspiracy theory. What's easier to believe? The entire system is a giant rigged game and nobody seems to understand except for you? Or some guy in Iowa is making 5 grand a year on selling advertising dollars on his blog?

DennisTate · Oct 24, 2016

atheiststories said: ↑

The Fed is audited every year. Here are their financial statements.

http://www.federalreserve.gov/monetarypolicy/files/combinedfinstmt2015.pdf

Just face it, people are making money off of people like you through advertising dollars. It's a conspiracy theory. What's easier to believe? The entire system is a giant rigged game and nobody seems to understand except for you? Or some guy in Iowa is making 5 grand a year on selling advertising dollars on his blog?
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Up here in Canada in 1940, when Prime Minister Mackenzie King was faced with financing
our participation in WWII.....
he decided to use The Bank of Canada... .that is technically owned by all Canadians to loan
money to the government to finance the war..... as well as infrastructure projects that most Canadians
agree are necessary.

I dealt with this in my 2006 campaign as an Independent for M. L. A. :

www.BankingSystemFlaws.blogspot.ca/

When well trained workers have high quality technology to work with then the total of all wages and benefits paid out to employees is only a fraction of the retail value of the products they produce. As a result of this fact the only way to move products out of warehouses is to extend higher and higher levels of credit. One problem with an abundance of red ink is that compound interest on all this government, business and personal debt over a period of decades will grow to astronomical levels. At this time there is approximately TEN TIMES as much debt in Canada as there is money. A simple explanation for how this happened can be seen here:
http://www.michaeljournal.org/plenty34.htm

In my opinion this rather simple mathematical problem is perhaps the number one cause of inflation in the Canadian economy over the past three decades. This is also perhaps the number one reason why our costs of production are so high and Canadian products cannot compete on the world markets as well as they could under better conditions.

From 1940 to 1970 the Government of Canada put roughly half of the total money supply into the economy through loans issued through the federally owned Bank of Canada. Provincial and municipal governments could borrow the money to build roads, schools, hospitals and sewage treatment facilities at zero or one percent interest. In 1970 we changed our system and since that time a higher and higher percentage of all government debt is financed through loans issued through privately owned banks. At this time it is ninety eight percent. This policy may be great for our banking sector but it was estimated that in the one year of 1995 alone our federal government could have saved roughly SIXTY FIVE BILLION DOLLARS in interest payments if we had gone back to creating half the total money supply through these low interest rate loans issued through the bank that is OWNED BY ALL CANADIANS.

Considering that our deficit was approximately thirty billion dollars for that year, simply by changing back to an already proven monetary and banking system, we could theoretically have had a FEDERAL BUDGET SURPLUS OF THIRTY FIVE BILLION DOLLARS in 1995.

The massive cutbacks in the Canadian military, in health care, highway construction, social programs and education were profoundly affected by these accounting practices?
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I believe that financing the increase in projects like the Sahara Forest Project and Sahara Solar Breeder Project is
the least expensive way to protect Florida from the threat of rising ocean levels.

http://www.ssb-foundation.com/

) Innovative solar Si production-solar breeder system design to make PV really grid parity

2) System design and materialization of PV interconnection to HTSC grids.

The dream of SSB plan is going to start the initial stage in "Sahara Solar Energy Research Center" (SSERC) project coordinated by The University of Tokyo (TU) and University of Science and Technology of Oran (USTO) [2]. In addition to this basic research project (about a 5 M$ grant from JICA/JST for 2010-2015), a new scheme is indispensable to reinforce and extend this initial project to the next stage of making SSB dream come true. SSB foundation (SSBF) is proposed for the purpose of promoting the shift from SSERC academic research to an industrial and economic reality which would be beneficial for African countries [3].

Key technological (1-3) and social (4-6) components of SSB

1) Harnessing the 3rd value of the desert for energy: Large scale/low cost production of solar-grade silicon from desert sand.
2) Solar breeder: Construction of solar cell plant doubling its scale every energy payback time (1-2 years at present).
3) DC power transmission by HTSC cable: From test line to global network
4) Application of SSB: From local to all of Africa
5) Fostering human resources of science and technology in Africa: Not just technology transfer or money game, but joint R&D from the basic stage
6) SSB foundation to provide a scheme of high-tech industries, employment, and business opportunities in Africa
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But Did President John F. Kennedy tackle this issue?

Do you think he was naive to attempt this?

http://www.michaeljournal.org/lincolnkennedy.htm

John F. Kennedy
No United States president since Abraham Lincoln dared to go against the system and create his own money, as many of these so-called elected presidents were actually only instruments or puppets of the Bankers. That is until President John F. Kennedy came into office.

President Kennedy was not afraid to buck the system, for he understood how the Federal Reserve System was being used to destroy the United States. As a just and honorable man, he could not tolerate such a system, for it smelled corruption from A to Z. Certainly he must have known about the Greenbacks which Abraham Lincoln created when he was in office.
On June 4th, 1963, President Kennedy signed a presidential document, called Exec(*)utive Order 11110, which further amended Executive Order 10289 of September 19th, 1951. This gave Kennedy, as President of the United States, legal clearance to create his own money to run the country, money that would belong to the people, an Interest and debt-free money. He had printed United States Notes, completely ignoring the Federal Reserve Notes from the private banks of the Federal Reserve.

Our records show that Kennedy issued $4,292,893,825 of cash money. It was perfect(*)ly obvious that Kennedy was out to under(*)mine the Federal Reserve System of the United States.
But it was only a few months later, In November of 1963, that the world received the shocking news of President Kennedy's assassination. No reason was given, of course, for anyone wanting to commit such an atrocious crime. But for those who knew anything about money and banking, it did not take long to put the pieces of the puzzle together. For surely, President Kennedy must have had It in mind to repeal the Federal Reserve Act of 1913, and return back to the United States Congress the power to create its own money.

It is interesting to note that, only one day after Kennedy's assassination, all the United States notes, which Kennedy had issued, were called out of circulation. Was this through an executive order of the newly installed president, Lyndon B. Johnson? Was President Johnson afraid of the Bankers? Or was he one of their instruments? At any rate, all of the money President Kennedy had created was destroyed. And not a word was said to the American people.

A lesson to learn
There is much that can be learned from our past history. Here we are in 2003, and the United States is still operating under the Federal Reserve System. It has already plunged this country over six trillion dollars into debt Federal debt, (the total debt, including that of individuals and corporations, is over 20 trillion) a debt it will never be able to pay, and has been responsible for every kind corruption imaginable. Yet, barely a peep of protest can be heard from the American people.

All the Bankers have to do to keep their power is to get rid of the few politicians who are honestly working for a reform in our economic system, and the people at large remain ignorant and controlled. It is obvious the American people need to be awakened to the truth." (Melvin Sickler)
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atheiststories · Oct 24, 2016

DennisTate said: ↑

Up here in Canada in 1940, when Prime Minister Mackenzie King was faced with financing
our participation in WWII.....
he decided to use The Bank of Canada... .that is technically owned by all Canadians to loan
money to the government to finance the war..... as well as infrastructure projects that most Canadians
agree are necessary.

I dealt with this in my 2006 campaign as an Independent for M. L. A. :

www.BankingSystemFlaws.blogspot.ca/

I believe that financing the increase in projects like the Sahara Forest Project and Sahara Solar Breeder Project is
the least expensive way to protect Florida from the threat of rising ocean levels.

http://www.ssb-foundation.com/

But Did President John F. Kennedy tackle this issue?

Do you think he was naive to attempt this?

http://www.michaeljournal.org/lincolnkennedy.htm
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Well I think the cheapest way to deal with it is to do nothing at all and just let Florida get swallowed by water.

That may not be a great way to deal with the problem of global warming, but I think that's what's going to happen.

I'm not so sure that trying to terraform the desert is a good way to deal with global warming. If we're going to do that then we should definitely consider banning lumber that comes from deforestation of the rain forest.

The Mello Guy · Oct 24, 2016

Stein is a (*)(*)(*)(*)ing kook

DennisTate · Oct 25, 2016

The Mello Guy said: ↑

Stein is a (*)(*)(*)(*)ing kook
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So am I!

Just ask any of my friends here who have known me for any significant amount of time!

Bernie Sanders is a bright guy......
he had no choice but to accept the perks that were recently offered......
to be too goodie goodie goodie two shoes to accept them.......

can get your name added to The Clinton List!

https://www.facebook.com/notes/raja...anders-stein-and-the-green/10154267345979450/

The crashing and burning of Trump and Clinton leaves Sanders, Stein and the Green Democratic Socialist movement set for victory.

DennisTate · Oct 25, 2016

atheiststories said: ↑

Well I think the cheapest way to deal with it is to do nothing at all and just let Florida get swallowed by water.

That may not be a great way to deal with the problem of global warming, but I think that's what's going to happen.

I'm not so sure that trying to terraform the desert is a good way to deal with global warming. If we're going to do that then we should definitely consider banning lumber that comes from deforestation of the rain forest.
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That could be THE least expensive way in some respects......
depending on how you define cheap......

but consciously deciding to turn the deserts of Jordan Green....
can pave the way for the Artistic Unity of the nations of Israel and Jordan.....

which could save some nations an astonishing amount of money in terms of their military budgets.

(On the other hand....... doing this would cause large military contractor stocks on Wall Street to fall......
so......... you could be correct)?!

Do a search for Dannion Brinkley, Jordan, Israel on the Middle East forum here........
for more info on what I am proposing.

http://www.politicalforum.com/middl...-peace-deal-between-jordan-israel-coming.html

Thread: Near death experiencer shown peace deal between Jordan and Israel is coming.

Lil Mike · Oct 25, 2016

atheiststories said: ↑

Well I think the cheapest way to deal with it is to do nothing at all and just let Florida get swallowed by water.

That may not be a great way to deal with the problem of global warming, but I think that's what's going to happen.

I'm not so sure that trying to terraform the desert is a good way to deal with global warming. If we're going to do that then we should definitely consider banning lumber that comes from deforestation of the rain forest.
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As a Floridian, I actually don't disagree with that.

Based on topographical maps, where I live would become an island, which would boost my property values tremendously. I've noticed that President Obama has done nothing to cancel the Federal Flood insurance program on the coasts. If we are losing the coasts anyway, why incur a massive debt by paying off rich people for their coastal property?

As to the larger topic, I agree with Dennis, that if you really think Global Warming is the world's number one issue, you should vote for Jill Stein.

atheiststories · Oct 25, 2016

DennisTate said: ↑

That could be THE least expensive way in some respects......
depending on how you define cheap......

but consciously deciding to turn the deserts of Jordan Green....
can pave the way for the Artistic Unity of the nations of Israel and Jordan.....

which could save some nations an astonishing amount of money in terms of their military budgets.

(On the other hand....... doing this would cause large military contractor stocks on Wall Street to fall......
so......... you could be correct)?!

Do a search for Dannion Brinkley, Jordan, Israel on the Middle East forum here........
for more info on what I am proposing.

http://www.politicalforum.com/middl...-peace-deal-between-jordan-israel-coming.html

Thread: Near death experiencer shown peace deal between Jordan and Israel is coming.
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I have no idea how you are doing your math, but to me terraforming the desert does not equal art, and art does not equal peace in the middle east.

DennisTate · Oct 25, 2016

atheiststories said: ↑

I have no idea how you are doing your math, but to me terraforming the desert does not equal art, and art does not equal peace in the middle east.
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You have told the truth.....
you don't yet know how I am doing my math.....
hint.... start thinking in terms of trillions and quadrillions and forget about those paltry billions.....

And.....
here is something that I posted to my wall on Facebook today.....

I believe that he should seriously consider teaming up with Dr. Jill Stein....... bury the Democratic Party............ take the Green Party up over the five percent that they need to be federally funded.......... and give America to The Donald because he obviously has the courage to tackle the Federal Reserve........ whereas Hillary....... .DOES NOT!
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https://www.washingtonpost.com/poli...701dbe0a3_story.html?wpisrc=nl_rainbow&wpmm=1
Sanders is prepared to be a liberal thorn in Clinton’s side

DennisTate · Oct 25, 2016

Lil Mike said: ↑

As a Floridian, I actually don't disagree with that.

Based on topographical maps, where I live would become an island, which would boost my property values tremendously. I've noticed that President Obama has done nothing to cancel the Federal Flood insurance program on the coasts. If we are losing the coasts anyway, why incur a massive debt by paying off rich people for their coastal property?

As to the larger topic, I agree with Dennis, that if you really think Global Warming is the world's number one issue, you should vote for Jill Stein.
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Frankly though....... Dr. Jill Stein also needs to prove that she isn't
Miss Goodie Goodie Two shoes.........
and be willing to discuss......PUBLICALY..... and openly and honestly....
some other options rather than a carbon tax or cap and trade system.....

Back in 2008 when I wrote the following....
I was terribly ignorant of the case that could be presented that
increased levels of atmospheric carbon.....
were increasing the levels of carbolic acid in the oceans.....

but...... my primary points here do have some validity.....

http://www.politicalforum.com/canad...008-campaign-my-apology-ms-elizabeth-may.html

Ignorance shown in my 2008 campaign, my apology to Ms. Elizabeth May!

Back in 2008 when I campaigned for the office of municipal councilor my ignorance regarding the importance of reducing atmospheric carbon is out there for all to see!

I am wondering if the information regarding the increasing acidity of the oceans can alter how we view the importance of altering our economy?

http://www.bankingsystemsflaws.blogspot.ca/

Last week I wrote a lengthy e-mail to Green Party Leader Elizabeth May. "Ms. May, if you owned a large apartment building and your tenants complained that the rooms were too warm would you listen to the advice of the contractor who was telling you to rip all the insulation out of the walls of this structure?"

"I don't think that you would because your article indicates that you have a phenomenal intellect and listening to this probably self-interested contractor would be incredibly unwise!"

"Combating global warming by first getting rid of CO2 is comparable to tearing the insulation out of this hypothetical building. CO2 is not a pollutant. Plants love this compound and some people even seem to feel that the recent greening in some parts of the Sahara Desert is partly attributable to increased levels of CO2. I tend to strongly agree with them in this assertion."

"Several days ago Mr. Charles Moore informed me that Canada produces roughly only 2.5 percent of global greenhouse gas emissions. Our nation could invest billions of dollars into reducing our carbon footprint and yet all this would have essentially zero effect on the global environment if China and India did not take similar measures.... besides....CO2 IS NOT A POLLUTANT... PLANTS LIVE ON IT AND RISING WORLD OCEAN LEVELS ARE ALMOST CERTAINLY THE GREATEST MOST IMMEDIATE THREAT POSED BY GLOBAL WARMING TO EVERY COASTAL COMMUNITY!!!!!!!!! (E-mail, September 11, 200

Ms. May deserves credit for encouraging Canadian political leaders to take environmental issues more seriously but at this time I feel that she has far too much confidence in the proposals put forward at Kyoto. The skepticism that Prime Minister Harper had for this accord seems to have been based on sound reasoning. Liberal Leader Stephane Dion was wise to hope for more time to further study this complex subject before an election.
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Lil Mike....... what do you personally think of doing something similar to the Sahara Forest Project or
Sahara Solar Breeder Project...... in CALIFORNIA....... to alleviate the drought there?

DennisTate · Oct 25, 2016

atheiststories said: ↑

Well I think the cheapest way to deal with it is to do nothing at all and just let Florida get swallowed by water.

That may not be a great way to deal with the problem of global warming, but I think that's what's going to happen.

I'm not so sure that trying to terraform the desert is a good way to deal with global warming. If we're going to do that then we should definitely consider banning lumber that comes from deforestation of the rain forest.
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My goal....
is to get large groups of people looking at money itself differently....
so that we can finance..... at zero to one percent interest..... a plan to
turn the deserts of Jordan, Qatar..... and Morocco green.......

which sets in motion a series of events that could LOWER ocean levels by
thirty centimeters..... giving us a buffer zone.....

in case rapid cracking and sliding of ice was to begin on the West Antarctic Ice Sheet or
Greenland.......

Yes....... I told the truth that like Dr. Jill Stein.... I am a bit of a Kook too aren't I?

I wonder if I could be any distant relation to Rabbi Kook?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abraham_Isaac_Kook

..... Although he stayed at the yeshiva for only a year and a half, the Netziv has been quoted as saying that if the Volozhin yeshiva had been founded just to educate Rav Kook, it would have been worthwhile. ....
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...................
I wonder what he would think of this idea.....
from his vantage point in sixth, seventh, eighth or perhaps even
ninth dimensional space time????

http://www.politicalforum.com/canad...nce-unified-theory-modern-world-problems.html

CanSo Dollars... could finance a Unified Theory of Modern World Problems?!

Andrew Jackson · Oct 25, 2016

Stein would be a completely wasted vote, especially in a swing state like Florida.

Doug_yvr · Oct 25, 2016

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I have no idea how you are doing your math, but to me terraforming the desert does not equal art, and art does not equal peace in the middle east.
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Thank you. I was having trouble following the dots myself.

DennisTate · Oct 25, 2016

Andrew Jackson said: ↑

Stein would be a completely wasted vote, especially in a swing state like Florida.
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Not if Bernie agreed to work with her.....
and if her running mate stepped aside to give
Bernie his seat like Mr. Peter Mackay's dad did for Mr. Brian Mulrooney......

.... if something like that happened..... and if Dr. Jill Stein made Bernie

and his supporters......a promise..... and then kept her word........

Bernie Sanders could be sworn in as President of the USA on January 20, 2017.....

A lot can happen in nearly three months......

There is a lot of evidence suggestive that perhaps...... just maybe.....
Hillary might be unelectable????????????

http://www.politicalforum.com/media...-chants-lock-her-up-while-cnn-tries-talk.html
Crowd chants 'lock her up' while CNN tries to talk

DennisTate · Oct 25, 2016

Doug_yvr said: ↑

Thank you. I was having trouble following the dots myself.
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I am 57..... I wonder sometimes if early onset Alzheimers is beginning.......
those dots............. represent me thinking......... of what to write next.........

wgabrie · Oct 25, 2016

Dennis,

The green party isn't going to win. Now I may be bias but most of the people in the USA vote Democrat or Republican. The rest of the political parties don't get good press or much interest in general.

I can't remember the last time I heard about the green party and Jill Stein in the news. But I heard she was busy spray painting bulldozers. Hardly the act of a dignified Presidential wannabe.

DennisTate · Oct 25, 2016

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Dennis,

The green party isn't going to win. Now I may be bias but most of the people in the USA vote Democrat or Republican. The rest of the political parties don't get good press or much interest in general.

I can't remember the last time I heard about the green party and Jill Stein in the news. But I heard she was busy spray painting bulldozers. Hardly the act of a dignified Presidential wannabe.
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Define WIN Wgabrie?

Imagine this.......... November 9, 2016....... Johnson/ Libertarian....... 5 percent of the popular vote....

Trump...... 34 percent of the popular vote......

Stein/ Sanders...... 29 percent of the popular vote.......

and Hillary.... merely 32 percent of the popular vote.......

Who does The Donald .... and the bulk of his supporters......fear most....... Bernie........ or Hillary?

Who would Bernie tend to cooperate more so with...... Trump...... or Hillary.......

The implications would be??????????????????????

...(The Donald might just spend the next few weeks thinking up an offer that Dr. Jill Stein and Bernie....
and their team...... can't resist)!

wgabrie · Oct 25, 2016

DennisTate said: ↑

Define WIN Wgabrie?

Imagine this.......... November 9, 2016....... Johnson/ Libertarian....... 5 percent of the popular vote....

Trump...... 34 percent of the popular vote......

Stein/ Sanders...... 29 percent of the popular vote.......

and Hillary.... merely 32 percent of the popular vote.......

Who does The Donald .... and the bulk of his supporters......fear most....... Bernie........ or Hillary?

Who would Bernie tend to cooperate more so with...... Trump...... or Hillary.......

The implications would be??????????????????????
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Dennis, I'm really not in a position to say who Trump supporters fear most. I'm a democrat who's probably going to vote for Hillary. But in the past I was considering voting for Trump, but that doesn't make me an expert on what Trump supporters fear. That said, I wasn't pleased with Bernie Sander's socialist agenda. But he's gone and finished now. Hillary's the only one left to fear.

Regarding WIN, I was referring to the Greens gaining Federal-level power. The Presidency mostly, but also Congressional seats.

I won't knock out local races, because I know sometimes local third parties win office in the local races.

DennisTate · Oct 25, 2016

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Dennis, I'm really not in a position to say who Trump supporters fear most. I'm a democrat who's probably going to vote for Hillary. But in the past I was considering voting for Trump, but that doesn't make me an expert on what Trump supporters fear. That said, I wasn't pleased with Bernie Sander's socialist agenda. But he's gone and finished now. Hillary's the only one left to fear.

Regarding WIN, I was referring to the Greens gaining Federal-level power. The Presidency mostly, but also Congressional seats.

I won't knock out local races, because I know sometimes local third parties win office in the local races.
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I am 80% certain that 75% or more of The Donald's supporters fear Hillary.....
far far far more than Bernie or Dr. Jill Stein.

Google "Clinton Body Count" on Snopes.com......
but really think about the sheer volume of the data there......
and ask yourself......

Does Arkansas have something like a Syndicate / Mafia......(sort of)?!

Did you ever see the movie "Roadhouse" starring Patrick Swayze?

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