Trump has NO mandate

Discussion in 'Political Opinions & Beliefs' started by Ronstar, Nov 23, 2016.

  1. Soupnazi

    Soupnazi Well-Known Member

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    Dont need one either

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    He has not violated it.

    he will be your president
     
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    Deckel Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    The Congress passes legislation, not the President; and people in the rustbelt being soaked in premiums would rather have anything different than what they have now--poor coverage at a huge price or a huge tax penalty. What the DNC sees as a carrot, quite a few Americans feel as a whip. I don't support Trump. I just absolutely opposed Hillary. Now the hubris of, "Get over it, John. I won" is coming home to roost. Trump will be a mediocre President at the very best, but at least the DNC should get a nice coffee enema and move back toward policies designed around empowering people, not extorting them.
     
  3. Ronstar

    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    No, he will not be "my" President
     
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    Soupnazi Well-Known Member

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    Yes he will be. And you know it
     
  5. Conviction

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    That's your response... Lol.

    You ignored the meat of my post.

    Also, sanctuary cities are GONE. And if the illegal comes back over he will go to jail.

    Not to mention ACA, while some positive aspects will remain, will be replaced.

    Let me reiterate for you, many of these agenda items are not up for debate as you would like to think.
     
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    The popular vote does not decide the election and does not decide a mandate.
     
  7. Ronstar

    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    so why did Trump whine and (*)(*)(*)(*)(*) in 2012 that Obama may have lost the Popular vote but won the Electoral vote?
     
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    For the times , they are a changin.....
     
  9. Conviction

    Conviction Well-Known Member

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    Democrats got WHALLOPED where it mattered. And with the midterm election map, and usual midterm turnout republicans will continue to ride the wave if obstructed.

    Democrats have LITTLE to NO bargaining power.
     
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    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    actually, no.

    trump just barely won in Michigan and Wisconsin.
     
  11. Conviction

    Conviction Well-Known Member

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    Mhm and look who has the senate. Look at the states Republicans won. Look at the midterms. Your bargaining power... It's not powerful. Lol
     
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    yep, Clinton got more votes then Trump did, Trump only won cause of the electoral college, same as Bush, let's just hope Trump turns out to be a better President then Bush

    fact is, if dems had got out and voted, Trump would of lost.. Trump did not win because of mass republican turn out...

    I think Trump will just be a puppet of republican in Congress....but we will see

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    Yep, he sure is an arrogant pain in the liberal a&s and the libs deserve nothing less, after 8 years of arrogance, insults, race and gender baiting, violence and the suppression of free speech. How is that "celebration of Hillary's win" thread of yours doing, mr. Ron "Now that I lost I don't like arrogance" Star? Lol

    PS you of all people should talk about the Constitution when your OP whine against it in favor of meaningless and unconstitutional "popular vote" which BTW Trump won in 49-states. Lol
     
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    I like how the wall goes from the main deal to a mere detail and fence within days.

    Wall, wall, wall, wall, and more wall.

    Did you hear there's to be a wall? A Trump wall. He builds the best walls. You know it.

    A few days pass.

    It's a fence, an unworkable detail.
     
  15. Russ103

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    Losing CA and NY and it's mostly lunatic liberal voters by never stepping foot there to campaign is no big deal.

    If the popular vote was anywhere on the liberal side, the democrats wouldn't have gotten wiped out on local/state levels from coast to coast.

    Pound sign #Getoverit
     
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    I agree that a mandate doesn't exist. Trump won because he faced Hillary Clinton and a Democratic Party in which quite a lot of the younger voters were angry at Clinton and the DNC and party leaders for what they saw rigging the Democratic Primaries. Fact is a lot of Sanders supporters stayed home and those who did vote, 10% voted for third party candidates and 22% for Donald Trump.

    I think Hillary took Sanders supporters for granted, that she thought along with most of us that they would return and vote for Hillary. But perhaps what we didn't take into consideration was they didn't like Hillary to begin with. Proof via the Podesta E-mails that the DNC rigged the primaries against Sanders was enough for them to say to heck with it.

    Clinton also ignoring and taking blue collar workers and the union vote for granted, again cost her. Especially in states like Pennsylvania, Wisconsin and Michigan. Everything had to go perfect for Trump to win, it did. No mandate, Trump was one lucky SOB, but a lot of that luck, Trump made himself and Hillary let him.

    Looking at Trump's lifelong held political beliefs, he is no extremist. In fact most of those beliefs are more in tuned with the Democratic Party than with the Republicans. True, he changed a few to run as a Republican. But it does look like he is beginning to revert to his old lifelong held political views or beliefs. I don't think there is much if any right wing extremist in him. But time will tell. I have a feeling if the Democrats, liberals can get past the R next to Trump's name, they will be fairly happy with his domestic political agenda. That is if he reverts to his lifelong held philosophy.
     
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    Take California and New York off the map and Trump won about as big as both
    Reagan and Nixon.Outside the huge Population centers like L.A. and N.Y.city
    and this country is a vast majority of Conservatives.
     
  18. Russ103

    Russ103 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Trump critics take him literally and not seriously.

    Trump supporters take him seriously and not literally.

    It's that simple.
     
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    the drones just don't get it.

    first, this is NOT any other nation on earth. we have a set of rules in place to govern our elections and, yes, trump did win. in fact, the opposition has been consistently winning since the nation realized the error of its ways when they allowed the progressives control of the entire federal government. democrat voters did not come out in droves to support an agenda that even they are starting to doubt, the republican voters have evolved beyond the mythology you have created for them and the independent voters have seen through the false promises of both the democrat and republican establishments. despite the manufactured outrage, the obsession of the snowflakes on anything that they could possibly be offended by, the nearly unprecedented 90% negative coverage by the press and an administration and party willing to bend and even break every rule of conduct in order to whitewash their preferred candidate, trump pulled off a win of heroic proportions. for the first time in recent memory the electorate had to think about the direction of the country instead of just the slogans and buzz-words they were handed or the personalities involved. with two of the most disliked candidates in a long time, they weren't handed an easy candidate on a silver platter and had to actually consider the ideologies behind the opposing parties.

    a week or so ago a member posted in another thread, bemoaning the fact that it took a candidate of outstanding charisma to install a democrat in the oval office. he pointed to slick willie's charm and bobo's position as the first black president as proof that the game was rigged and that it took something extra to get a progressive into the oval office. i think it's time y'all realized that, even though these people were elected, their very nature is a repudiation of the ideology they espouse. that it takes a snake oil salesman or a novelty act to put a democrat in the white house says something about what it is they are trying to sell the nation. the collectivism, the divisiveness and the "blame america first" mentality is really only popular with the professional malcontents, the ignorant ivory tower idealists and the dependency junkies. the vast majority of the american people just want to be left alone, to earn their way through this life and to have a government that allows them to do just that. maybe that's why little more than half of the american people bother to vote, they are tired of political animals telling them what they will do for a people who just want to do for themselves.
     
  20. Ronstar

    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    yeah, but California and New York ARE on the map, buddy.

    LOL!!!!!
     
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    He thanks you for your advice,......really, he does
     
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    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    if we get rid of all non-white voters, Trump won by a landslide.

    LOL!!!!!
     
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    There will be no barrier built and you will not deport any more than Obama
    Nothing will be done with NATO
    No trade deals will be renegotiated and will not be hard on China
    There WILL be tax cuts and you will have short term gains and long term disaster.....but they will be gone by then
    Nothing on infrastructure.....because of the tax cuts.
     
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    Because Snidely Whiplash guys Like F.Chuckie Schumer said Trump doesn't
    have a mandate.This from a guy who is an abject hypocrite.Loves to toss
    around terms like Nuclear Option and Filibuster.Wasn't it F.Chuckie boy
    who unravelled the Filibuster rule a few years back.
    3 years ago when the Dems were a majority in the Senate they abolished the
    Filibuster for all but Supreme Court Justice nominees.
    Now Schumer is pleading to keep it in place.
    Threatening to use it against those like announced AG Jeff Sessions.
     
  25. FreshAir

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    agree, Clinton was disliked about as much as Trump, in fact she only got a couple million more votes then Trump, and like you said, cause many Bernie voters stayed home
     

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