Conservatives: What did Hitler get wrong?

I gave you the platform of the Nazi Party, illustrating that it was, clearly and unarguably, a socialist party.
Your refusal to accept this fact does not in any way make it less a fact.
You have been proven wrong.

 

Why not go through the 25 points individually and show how those points do not prove socialism ?? Take the high road instead of petulance.

 

Hilary Clinton was cloned from Hitler's dna. The reason she wears pant suits and long sleeves is because she has swastikas tattooed on her arms and legs.

 

Most of the socialism under the Nazis was inherited from Imperial policies that ran back as far as Bismark and continued in the Wiemar republic.

 

Right wingers prefer minimal government. Nazi's (like all leftists) want a strong central government.

 

You see, it's been our misfortune to have the wrong religion. Why didn't we have the religion of the Japanese, who regard sacrifice for the Fatherland as the highest good? The Mohammedan religion too would have been more compatible to us than Christianity. Why did it have to be Christianity with its meekness and flabbiness? ~Adolf Hitler

Had Charles Martel not been victorious at Poitiers -already, you see, the world had already fallen into the hands of the Jews, so gutless a thing Christianity! -then we should in all probability have been converted to Mohammedanism [Islam], that cult which glorifies the heroism and which opens up the seventh Heaven to the bold warrior alone. Then the Germanic races would have conquered the world. Christianity alone prevented them from doing so. ~Adolf Hitler

The best thing is to let Christianity die a natural death. A slow death has something comforting about it. The dogma of Christianity gets worn away before the advances of science... The instructions of a hygienic nature that most religions gave, contributed to the foundation of organized communities. The precepts ordering people to wash, to avoid certain drinks, to fast at appointed dates, to take exercise, to rise with the sun, to climb to the top of the minaret — all these were obligations invented by intelligent people. The exhortation to fight courageously is also self-explanatory. Observe, by the way, that, as a corollary, the Moslem was promised a paradise peopled with sensual girls, where wine flowed in streams — a real earthly paradise. The Christians, on the other hand, declare themselves satisfied if after their death they are allowed to sing hallelujahs! ...Christianity, of course, has reached the peak of absurdity in this respect. And that's why one day its structure will collapse. Science has already impregnated humanity. Consequently, the more Christianity clings to its dogmas, the quicker it will decline. ~Adolf Hitler

Hey Adolf.. 'Reports of my death have been greatly exaggerated'. ~Christianity ..oh wait.. you can't hear me. You're dead.

Ironic, no? The more you read from Hitler himself, the more he sounds like a modern progressive, defending & praising islam, hating christianity, & pitching propaganda & lies faster than he can talk.

I know this is just another phony narrative thread, attempting to keep the delusion alive that 'conservatives are just like Hitler!'. But the premise is absurd, as those who argue this show the impotence of their arguments.. if you can call them that. Bold assertions.. Blatant falsehoods. Revisionist history. Orwellian redefining of terms.

I'm nearing the end, & i'm not optimistic about the thinking & reasoning of the upcoming generations. Assertions & decrees take the place of evidence & history. The effect, not the Truth is what is important. It is a sad day for objectivists, or the scientifically minded, but that is the direction the culture is heading. But beware! You might not like this brave new world you are creating...

 

OK I can play your game partially. I posted my own defense of my position first in post 299. You "replied" to it in 323 without addressing even one of its points but I replied to them point-by-point in #340. Now you turn it around and demand answers from me without responding to my earlier points and you do it without agreeing to my simple requirements of acceptance and agreement on history.

But I'll give you this much until I get your agreement to terms and respond to my statements in #299.

In your 25 points I find #7 and 8 in particular are consistent with Trump's stated positions.
I find all of them are unacceptable but 3. And we might discuss how you stand on those 3. But I reject everything else in that list.

There. That's all you get for now until you comply with my discussion requirements.

 

I posed my position first in post 299. And you lecture me about the high road?????

I wait for your agreement to my terms. The fact that no righty here is willing to agree to accept historical facts is very revealing, as it means you know the facts will prove you wrong, so you play these silly games.

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Nope. Wrong again.

 

There are parallels between Nazism/fascism and both socialism AND conservative policies...

Bottom line is the authoritarian nature and extreme nationalism of conservatives and Nazis

 

Unequivocal proof that the 25 point plan of Hitler proposed in 1920 is socialism. You refuse to address that fact and those individual points. Telling.

 

I wonder why it was that Hitler and the Italian fascists attacked socialists, communists, and unions so viscously

 

Not true. The left wing represents the middle class and poor. The right takes care of the rich and that is about it.

I'm talking about actions not rhetoric

 

Where does the Presidency of Barrack Obama who resorted to the use of executive action and avoided the Legislative Branch entirely in the later segment of his years in office fit in with the authoritarian nature bottom line. BTW it was nice to see him actually meet with members of Congress - it's been a long time since that happened. Of course it was only the D's and only to beg them to save his legacy. Schumer and his clowns proceeded to colossally embarrass themselves in their vacuous ObamaCare press statements. Minority leader Pelosi was particularly at odds with the facts of ObamaCare approval. The hypocrisy was overwhelming.

 

How is real (U6) unemployment of 10%, Labor Force Participation Rate under 63%, stagnant real median household income still below 2007, 10% increase on small business taxation, and economic growth of 1% per capita taking care of the middle class and the poor ?? I'm talking results not promises.

 

Hitler was the strong leader that the implementation of National Socialism required. Everything that challenged National Socialism was liquidated. What could go wrong - that's what always goes wrong when a strong leader is required.

 

Your reading sux. I addressed those points. There is no similarity to socialism. In fact there is far more similarity to current "conservative" positions.

 

So now you suddenly agree that the median household income has been stagnant!!!! And you fought me on that for days!!!!

Totally fraudulent.

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That's a reply???? Then why didn't Hitler attack right wingers like white nationalists and corporatists?

Everyone sees right through your nonsense.

 

It fits the exact definition of socialism. If you want to create your own definitios/terms then you are forced to argue with yourself. No one else is interested.

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It's been stagnant under Obama.

Because he was one of them - in fact the leader. Hence the name national socialism.

 

I think Hitler went wrong by embracing socialism. By creating a social contract that offered the world to Germans, it forced 'solutions' to the question of who a rightful German is.

 

and what is you wish to "debate"

the fact of the National Socialist Party and what they did? Or, are you looking for a bash Trump event?

 

Pure BS...your paranoia aside

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What they DID...was crush socialists and communists FIRST

 

I did not realize that the Jewish were communists; my bad

 

Apples to apples..what was the U6 for the bulk of the Bush Admin?

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Some were most weren't. But Hitler went after the communists and socialists FIRST.

Read some history

 

I'm on the upper end of middle class, but not quite to "upper-middle" class. And the Democratic Party has done nothing but harm me for my entire life.

 

What planet are you on?