More Than 1,000 People Shot in Chicago So Far This Year

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  1. Brewskier

    Brewskier Well-Known Member

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    http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/more-than-1000-people-shot-in-chicago-so-far-this-year/ar-BBs4QW9?li=BBnb7Kz&ocid=iehp

    Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't Chicago a city run by Democrats for many decades? Isn't Chicago a city where blacks, Hispanics, and whites all have roughly the same percentage of the population? Doesn't Chicago have some of the strictest gun control measures in the country? Isn't Chicago Obama's adopted home town?

    Since the Democratic Party adopted the BlackLivesMatter message as part of their platform, what specifically are they going to do about crime in Chicago committed by young male blacks, who comprise the majority of the town's shootings and murders (against mainly fellow blacks)?

    I wonder if the Democratic party going to blame gangs for this problem, or will they, as always, try to push for more gun control? See, the solution to dealing with inner city minority gang violence is to take away a conservative white male's ability to defend his family in rural Utah.

    And to think, if the Democratic Party and its progressive base had their way, every major city would look like Chicago.
     
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    I just read that half of all the increase in the number of murders this year come from three cities. Chicago, Baltimore, D.C. All Democrat cities, have been for decades. All three have very strict gun control. http://dcist.com/2016/04/report_homicide_dc_brennan_center.php

    Must be white Republican racism causing this.
     
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    Three cities with high black populations. Interesting. Probably a coincidence.
     
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    Don't be a racist!!! =) Religious Republicans are pulling those triggers, didn't you know?
     
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    That's the last thing on BLM and the left wings minds. To them it is more important to do what they can to disarm the law abiding and blame white people for everything under the sun.

    These shootings and crime stats are inconvenient truths BLM and the left would just rather avoid and sweep under the rug. Pretty much the same thing that liberals in Europe are doing right now during the refugee crisis.
     
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    The sad thing is that it happens so often that no one cares anymore.
     
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    This definitely has nothing to do with street gangs/organized crime fighting over drug turf.

    Definitely the fault of "blacks". Certainly not at all related to drug prohibition.
     
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    Maybe try reading the OP again, where I specifically mentioned gangs. :roll:
     
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    Yet those gangs are somehow the fault of blacks?

    Were the groups during Prohibition that engaged in violent crime over territory examples of how whites are barbaric?
     
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    Yes, they are primarily comprised of black gang members in the aforementioned cities.

    I understand how uncomfortable it is for you to discuss black criminality and why the urge to redirect to white people is palpable.
     
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    They are primarily composed of blacks because the gang territories are found in poor neighborhoods that are primary composed of blacks.

    The thing at fault for this violence is prohibition.
     
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    The Democrats use to care but they figured out how to replace these young black Democrat voters... with undocumented Democrat voters. Politically incorrectly known as illegal aliens from Latin America.
     
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    We'd be seeing the same level of violence from poor whites and poor Hispanics if your apologia for black criminality actually reflected reality. We don't. Chicago is 1/3 white, 1/3 Hispanic, and 1/3 black, yet blacks commit over 3/4's of the murders.

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    They never cared. They use minorities like pawns in a chess game. Just a means to an end.
     
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    That would be true if Whites and Hispanics in Chicago were poor in the same rates as Blacks. They aren't.
     
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    You mean it's not the person pulling the trigger's fault? Prohibition hasn't caused me to shoot people.
     
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    Hispanics have about the same percentage of their population below the poverty line as blacks, and are about 40% larger as a minority group. Hispanics are also more likely to drop out of High School and are less likely to graduate college on a per capita basis compared with blacks. Feel free to find any poor white or Hispanic area in the country that is as violent as Chicago.

    Spoiler alert - you can't. Your apologist "poverty" excuses simply do not work. They don't explain why so much violence is coming out of the black community. Your next move is to blame "racism", and I have a reply for that, too.
     
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    Getting rid of prohibition will cut the legs out from under the gangs and leave them without a purpose.

    How many mobs do you see fighting in downtown Chicago over bootleg booze?
     
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    No, my blame is solidly on prohibition of drugs as I stated in my first post.

    But let's address the implications of your argument. Since you discount poverty as being a cause for crime, you are left with arguing that violence and crime are simply a racial aspect of blacks. Is that your position?

    And if it is, may I ask, Mein Fuhrer, what your Final Solution would be to the problem?
     
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    Then why do only blacks exhibit this disproportionately high levels of violence? Prohibition affects everyone.

    It's a cultural aspect mainly, brought on by left-wing policies that you would support, which has destroyed the black family unit, increased Government dependence, given black fathers an exit from their financial and moral obligations, and more. There could be a genetic component as well, as blacks tend to have lower IQ levels and higher levels of testosterone compared with other groups.

    I'm more interested in the immediate solutions, like silencing people like you who make excuses for a real societal problem simply to assuage your own feelings of white guilt and privilege.
     
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    Right. Why did whites engage in the violence surrounding alcohol prohibition so heavily? Clearly something must have been wrong with whites as a race. Let's totally ignore that the organized crime groups that fed that violence withered and died when prohibition ended.

    End the Drug War, you cut the legs out from under the street gangs and cut violence.
     
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    Why aren't you discussing white criminality?
     
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    Not to mention the NRA and gun nuts going down into downtown Baltimore and leaving crates of guns and ammo laying around tempting otherwise peaceful residents to grab the guns and start blasting away.
     
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    Did you just use fractions when debating a leftist? This is what that same sentence looks like to them
    "Chicago is white racists, Hispanic, and black, yet blacks commit murders because of white racists."
     
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    Granny says, "Dat's right - dey need to declare martial law an' call in the Nat'l. Guard...
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    Trump: Chicago Might Need Federal Help
    January 4, 2017 - President-elect Donald Trump took to Twitter Monday to again draw attention to Chicago's struggles with surging violent crime, this time suggesting that perhaps Mayor Rahm Emanuel should seek help from the federal government.
     
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    Eventually overtime the murderers or murderers will be be mostly killed or locked up. This will decrease the problem.

    Gun control doesn't prevent wrongful homicides or homicides in general. Only morality in people and restraint.

    Ecudor, Columbia, Russia, Honduras, El Salvador, and Venezuela all lack a death penalty and have complete gun control. All of these countries have some of the highest homicide rates in the world

    Austria and Switzerland have some of the lowest homicide rates in the world. They have some of the most lax gun laws in the world.

    Texas, Louisiana, Florida, Alabama, and Indiana have death penalties and the highest homicide rates in the world.

    Germany, France, Denmark, Switzerland, and Poland have some of the lowest homicide rates in the world and no death penalty.

    Think of this. Research a little if you want
     

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