This time, I'm going to blame Trump supporters

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  1. ChiefSeattle

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    That's right you heard it. I won't blame George Bush, or Donald Trump for beating the drums for war, because now we caught the Liar-in-chief team telling a whopper of a fabrication to try and pull is into war with Iran. I'm blaming Trump supporters this time.

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    The Trump administration’s efforts to provoke an international conflict have taken an extremely alarming turn. White House Press Secretary Sean Spicer just publicly accused the Islamic Republic of Iran of firing upon an American warship – but the Pentagon denies that this ever happened.

    At today’s press conference, Spicer said “I think General Flynn was really clear yesterday that Iran has violated the Joint Resolution, that Iran’s additional hostile actions that it took against our Navy vessel are ones that we are very clear are not going to sit by and take. I think that we will have further updates for you on those additional actions,” in reference to National Security Advisor Michael Flynn’s declaration that Iran was “on notice.”

    But the Pentagon quickly clarified that the incident in question referred to an attack on a warship belonging to the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia by Yemeni Houthi rebels, who are supported by Iran in their war against the Saudi-supported Yemeni government. A US warship was not attacked.

    “It was a Saudi ship – it was actually a frigate” said Pentagon spokesman Christopher Sherwood to the Intercept. “It was [conducted by] suspected Houthi rebels off the coast of Yemen.”

    Firing upon a U.S. naval vessel would be an act of war. The implications of this lie cannot be understated. The Trump White House is deliberately building a propaganda case to justify a possible war with Iran, which would be a catastrophe of unimaginable proportions.

    The Intercept then noted that “Major Garrett of CBS News quietly corrected him, saying “a Saudi vessel,” and Spicer then responded almost inaudibly: ‘Sorry, thank you, yes a Saudi vessel. Yes, that’s right.’ He did not in any way address his false claim that it was an Iranian attack, however.”

    FOX News is already working overtime to drum up misplaced outrage and fearmongering over the fabricated threat
    posed by Iran.

    This a major, major, blunder by the Trump Administration, when one of Trump's "fake news" sources has to correct Spicer, while Spicer quietly says he is sorry. Lol! Imagine that! A fake news source correcting the Trump administration. This proves the administration was lying about this when Spicer didn't challenge Garrett. This illegal administration is trying to invent excuses to pull us into war, and they've been caught lying about it. And I will blame Trump supporters for not speaking out about it, when Trump finally declares war on Iran, sending our men and women off to die for nothing, once again. You all will be the one's this time to blame if you sit idly by and do not join Democrats in this condemnation. Trump supporters now know what is going on. And if you do not speak out in the name of our service people saving them from wars based on lies we will know who to blame.

    Do people not realize how dangerous these lies by the Administration are?

    It is my hope that it won't just be Democrats speaking out about this treasonous act, to try and lure us into war based on lies, all over again.
     
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    OP, don't know. I will say Trump does not have a history of being truthful, so it is plausible.
     
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    Who are you trying to kid? You're a Lib who ALWAYS blames Republicans.......so typical....
     
  4. ChiefSeattle

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    Playing games with words doesn't change fact from fiction. And we are talking about playing dangerous games with people's lives here. Trump's history of being a liar, doesn't make this game less dangerous.

    Think about it for a second; Sean Spicer before he walked onto that podium with the blessings of Trump manufactured this lie to present to the world. This is a huge development everyone should be zeroed in on. And when it took one of Trump's fake news sources to correct Spicer, without Spicer putting up a fight, you do realize Trump and Spicer were hitting the war drums at the expense of "our" American soldiers, based on that lie.

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    Your non-existent rebuttal is always on cue, and more than welcome. Thanks!
     
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    I thought my reply was right on target. It was about all the post deserved...
     
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    Seth Bullock Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    They did get the nationality of the ship wrong, and they should be more careful to get it right.

    That said, Iran-supported Houthis did fire missiles from Yemen at a U.S. naval destroyer this past October.

    http://www.reuters.com/article/us-yemen-security-missiles-idUSKCN12C294


    Under the Constitution, President Trump cannot declare war on Iran. Only the Congress can do that. If we are ever to choose to go to war with Iran, the People need to force the Congress to either authorize it or refuse it. It is the prerogative of the Congress, not the President.

    Where were you when Barrack Obama and Hillary Clinton declared war on Libya and assassinated its head-of-state? How about the proxy war they waged against Syria?
     
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    And this is the problem with trumpists, they just can't seem to separate the BS from the stuff that is really important. The fact that someone's reaction is "meh" in response to a false statement that if true would almost certainly lead to declaration of war really says all there is to say regarding them. God help us.
     
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    Want to lay odds on the chances that "our naval vessel" was an honest mistake? :roll:
     
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    I'm only going to blame Barry again but only this one time, again.

    If Barry had done his job Trump wouldn't be forced to clean up another disastrous mess. Barry was obviously in bed with Iran and through his treasonous actions of not only negotiating but funding and aiding has placed the US and many other nations in a dangerous position. However this plays out, you can bet Trump has America's best interest first, where ol Barry was anti-American and his slobbering love affair with Iran could only fool the willfully ignorant.

    You know this whole Iran thing? Barry built that.
     
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    This is something that can frighten you, because the Trump administration hates Iran, we all know, and Trump himself has said so very often.
    If we then look at the background of Spicer, Bennon and especially Flynn ... then here is an evil picture ... one that for Gulf of Tonking 2.0 begins is heavy smelling!

    And Hillary was abused by the Trumponians in the election campaign as a warmonger ...
     
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    That's right, no reason to question our great leader. I don't care who's in power blindly following is a dangerous (and lazy) position to take. Even if trump did have our best interest at heart (not likely), he's shown ad nauseam that he fails to apply any kind of analysis to his actions.
     
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    The same clowns who believed Bush and supported his grand invasion of Iraq, are now doing the very same thing with Iran. How is it, these people never learn? Nor do they take responsibility for their actions, in pimping these needless wars.
     
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    You understand the Saudis are US allies, and the Saudi frigate was part of a joint convoy?
     
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    More careful? Lol! That's as good as you can do? This is a major screw up by the Administration. People's lives depend on others getting it right the first time. This was a foreign policy disaster two weeks in, threatening the wrong country.

    You see how Trump supporters roll? Iran supporters from Yemen. Those folks are not from Iran. They are from Yemen. You are as bad as Spicer twisting the truth.



    This is about Yemen, not Iran.




    And? What about it? Who controls Congress? That's right, the same Republican corrupt obstructionists we've had in the past. Declaring war by a Republican controlled Congress, and it's good for business, is a no brainer.



    False equivalency and off topic. No boots on the ground, it was with Nato, and it was not waged based on lies. Big difference!

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    What does that have to do with Trump and Spicer lying about Iran firing on one of our vessels?
     
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    I'd bet you were just all over Barry...? Pfft. It's this hold everyone but the libs accountable that makes everyone laugh at you all. I knew if/when a republican got into the WH that the fake media would be all over him and I don't mind him being held accountable but the unhinged attacks produced by the fake media is so far out there you can't even be sure what is real or not. You all have ruined your own credibility. If you all held Barry responsible for anything in the slightest I could get behind the concerns but when the sky falls at the slightest breeze it is just too much. It's a complete joke and the same people that voted him in are not falling for your fake garbage and the same people producing the garbage don't let up. Get a grip.
     
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    Bzzzzt. I voted McCain and then Romney. In fact this was the first election in my life that I didn't vote repub for president. I try to form my own opinions. You should try it.
     
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    What disastrous mess?
    What treasonous actions?
    Funding who, and links proving we are doing the funding?
    I don't have a clue what you are talking about, and neither do you. Please explain, if you can?
    Trump and Spicer just got caught lying about Iran firing on our Vessel, while the Pentagon and fake news Major Garrett had to call them out on their lies, while neither Spicer or Trump put up a fight about it. Exactly how is that Trump acting in our best interests, when he gets caught lying about such an important security matter such as this, that could falsely put thousands of Americans in harms way, based on lies?

    How? By cutting a deal that so far has worked out beautifully? And what does that have to do with Trump and Spicer lying?
     
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    I see.

    So Mr Trump wants to lie his way into war with Iran on behalf of the Saudis.

    MAGA.
     
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    So the thought of blaming Obama whose absurd deal with Iran turned us from being in full control to becoming de-facto hostages of the mullahs' good will and blaming Iran for violations and provocations didn't cross your mind, right?
     
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    It's true, he may have simply misspoke. I'm just not sure how that happens as he was clearly aware of the correct target and yet he said "our naval vessel". If he didn't mis-speak then what was his motivation for lying? If nothing else you should file this away in your mind as another red flag in a large collection of red flags.
     
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    Save your selective and fake outrage. You couldn't be honest if your life depended on it and if you couldn't see the painfully obvious, you won't start now no matter how much proof was in your face. Thank you for strengthening the republican party. Keep up the great work.
     
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    Your weak non-existent rebuttal is much appreciated. Thanks for proving me right.
     
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    Even if your theory held a sliver of truth, it would hardly be any different than the sinking of the Lusitania in that regard ... other than perhaps the loss of 1500 innocent lives at the hands of FDR.
     

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