Why is diversity a good thing?

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  1. Balto

    Balto Well-Known Member

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    Think about all the small business owners who have started restaurants, contributing to job creation and ultimately, a healthier economy. Or the people starting companies that manufacture foreign goods in the US, thus also resulting in job creation.
     
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    Do you believe in Santa Claus? Do your neighbors celebrate Christmas? Do you exchange christmas gifts with friends and loved ones?

    It doesn't matter whether God exists, or not. It is a concept of a greater power if nothing else, and that concept includes moral values that are shared.

    "Diversity" is not a strength, and I think we saw exactly what happens when people who hold different values come together in Berkeley. We see it all the time, actually. You see it in Californians who would just love to de-diversify from Trump's America. We see it when countries go to war.

    Why do you think Jews can't seem to find anywhere to live in peace? Because of some wandering jew story in the bible? Or because they don't really have an ability to mix with people of different faiths. How about them muslims screaming allah akbar while driving through crowds of holiday shoppers? You think the christmas shopping experience is enhanced thanks to that diversity?

    Now I know this is going to fall on a lot of deaf ears because there is far too much emotional attachment to this idea of diversity as a strength, even though it isn't something they want to put into practice themselves. The Germans don't really want to be diversified because they're tired of getting run over by guys named mohammad. The french don't really want diversity because they're tired of being shot at concerts. The gays don't really want diversity because they're tired of being slaughtered in gay bars. The SJWs don't really want diversity or they wouldn't need hug puppies and safe spaces every time somebody says something they don't agree with, and the marxists don't really want diversity or they would hire conservatives.

    Unfortunately, like a beaten and abused spouse, they have far too much invested in the idea to file for a divorce from the rhetoric that has driven them to such a nightmarish existence.
     
  3. Steve N

    Steve N Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    While the music thing is true, we can still get that on the internet or simply buy the records. Same thing with the food, it's already here and it often blends in nicely without destroying the overall culture of America.

    Check this out; if someone went to the Cuban sections of Miami they'd say 'wow, look at this diversity.' If that same someone went to an all white area they say 'wow, look at this lack of diversity.' Diversity in this country has come to mean anything but white.

    Let's take another look at diversity. An extreme example would be that we take a few thousand people from the jungles of Africa and plop them into the USA. The first thing liberals would be proud of is the diversity aspect. But once these people are out of their element and fail, then liberals would say it's because of racism or some sort of bigotry.

    Coming to America means you came here to be an American and enjoy our way of life. Why would someone come here only to turn it into what they came from? No one seems to want to answer that question. So I can only guess they come here for the benefits and freebies and no one wants to admit that.
     
  4. Ronstar

    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    This is the EXACT same argument they used to keep out Jews, Greeks, Poles, Russians, Italians, Romanians, Serbs, etc etc.
     
  5. Steve N

    Steve N Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I can only guess that you have no good answer why diversity is a good thing other wise you would have posted it. Right off the bat, your liberal pals in Hollywood don't accept being politically diverse, but that's not the main point of my question about why diversity is a good thing.

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    The countries you liberals love are the most discriminatory, racist and least diverse countries in the world. Have you ever heard of an African-Mexican?
     
  6. Ronstar

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    America had accepted tens of thousands of refugees from Eastern Europe and other former Communist countries such as Cuba for propaganda purposes during the Cold War. Because of that, America was revered as the leader of the free world. But saving Syrian refugees would not serve any political purpose other than humanitarian, which may be why the Trump administration terminated the refugee program. Now that the Cold War is over, America doesn't have to pretend to be the beacon of freedom anymore.
     
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    So we've bounced from entertainment to restaurants. That's still not accomplishment.
     
  9. Ronstar

    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I love it when children and grandchildren of immigrants, condemn and attack immigration.

    Such irony.
     
  10. Merwen

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    Fine. I suggest you move to the Mideast where you will totally fit in.
     
  11. Pycckia

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    Can't be done. Russia tried and failed. Despite persecution, torture, destruction of churches, the people remained religious.

    The problem with most progressive ideas is that they contradict human nature. That is why progressivism turns into totalitarianism.

    Why don't you relax and let people lead they lives they prefer: religious and monocultural? Why do you have to lay humanity on the Procrustean bed of progressivism?

    I sometimes think, when I am in a particularly uncharitable mood, the Progressives are simply misanthropes. They hate humanity and devise torture chambers for them. All in the name of "humanism," of course.
     
  12. Belch

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    The music thing is certainly true, as are lots of things. It makes things much harder actually because instead of looking through our childrens' record collection looking for black sabbath records that have been played backwards on dad's top-of-the-line turntable with a 200 dollar needle, we have to check playlists and search histories for drill music where they sing about killing people and forcing women to do all sorts of vile sexual acts.

    This goes for parents all across the globe thanks to the diversity of music. What the hell was wrong with Bing Crosby and John Denver? :steamed:

    It also goes for food, which is why the Italians made spaghetti out of ramen, and pizza from tasteless unleavened bread.

    The thing is, we really don't need to import mexicans so we can eat burritos. We don't need to invite Japanese kabuki actors to live in the country in order to enjoy the soothing sounds of a man acting like a woman while screeching about not being able to afford medicine for his stubbed toe.

    All of those things can be imported, without importing the people along with them.
     
  13. Steve N

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    Hey, I have no problem with a diverse appetite, but when the meal is done we should all be in America.

    I had a 100% Italian girlfriend whose parents were literally off the boat - they even had the plastic on the furniture. Even though she's only a first generation girl from the daughter of immigrants, she's Americanized to the point of living in Orange County, CA and was a Sanders delegate.
     
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    nothing wrong with immigrants maintaining their accents and some of their former culture
     
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    And you believe that because...?
     
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    Well thats what the article said. I think its because of the average amount of resources each American uses vs the rest of the world. It seems plausible honestly, I look around me right now and see the amount of energy I use as a single guy in this big house by myself and I can see how it would deplete the Earths resources pretty quick if everybody on Earth lived like I did...
     
  17. Steve N

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    We children of immigrants consider ourselves Americans first and foremost. We don't fly another flag over the Stars and Strips, we speak English, and we defend the soldiers who protect and defend us, not spit on them. When my grandparents came here they never taught my dad their native languages, they made him speak, read and write English because they believed to succeed in American one had to be an American. My grandparents left their old country customs in the old country. Immigrants today don't.

    So why is diversity a good thing?

    And one of the more ironic things is the left wanting diversity when they won't accept anything that's not on their agenda, in that regard they are the least diverse people alive. Think about it, you guys are physically attacking your fellow Americans because you disagree with their opinion on political issues pertaining to foreigners. You're pathetic.
     
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    I can't even begin to explain how stupid this is. Quite amazing.
     
  19. Belch

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    That's probably a wonky way of calculating it because you have to take a few things like population density and resource production per capita into account, as well.

    So for a country like the usa you'd go (r-c)÷p resources, consumption and population.

    The resources are not actual physical resources like a pound of sugar, but rather the value of those resources once they are sold. So on paper, eskimos will have less ice than saudi arabians because you probably can't give ice away in alaska, but it will bring a pretty penny in saudi arabia.

    So if you have two guys wiping their buns with the same amount of charmin. One of those guys will be in some apartment in the middle of new york city, and the other guy will be living in a forest. The amount of toilet paper produced by trees growing in both areas are not going to be the same, so even though both are using the same amount of tp, the guy in the forest is going to be using less resources than the guy in the city.

    Anyway, I'm a bit skeptical about the figure.
     
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    diversity is great for all the different foods, all the different kinds of women,
     
  21. R Crusoe Esq

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    Why do you think it needs "justification"? It's just a natural choice for related entities to cohabit. Birds flock together, beasts herd together, fish shoal together, insects live in huge homogenous colonies, etc etc.

    Why is it only human beings who demand that other human beings justify their preferred living arrangements?
     
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    Yes, good point. Lefties do seem to be oblivious of the most obvious things. Wonder why that is? It's puzzling.
     
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    yes, and we are all human beings of the same species.
     
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    Give it a shot. "Explain" it to us.
     
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    Umm... "Human Beings" IS a species.

    And sparrows don't flock with vultures; antelope don't herd with hyenas; mackerel don't shoal with sharks, and ants don't colonise with anteaters.
     

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