Why do lefties on this forum think at anyone has a RIGHT to come to the US

Discussion in 'Political Opinions & Beliefs' started by logical1, Feb 4, 2017.

  1. Ronstar

    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    20 Attorney Generals, the 9th Appeals Court, disagree.
     
  2. Eyeswideopen1989

    Eyeswideopen1989 Banned

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    Can you provide any amount of evidence for this? Because republicans, far more than democrats, are about logic, and the rule of law. But I can say with 100 percent fact, that democrats and liberals want to silence republicans. A recent riot can attest to this.

    But you still haven't answered my question.

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    They are allowing their emotion to get in the way of an objective, factual, on the books power of the president. A law. A judges job is to be an arm of the law, not emotion. Which they simply are failing at.
     
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    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    prove it.
     
  4. Kode

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    Can you provide any evidence for your claim that lefties oppose vetting? I didn't think so.
     
  5. Natty Bumpo

    Natty Bumpo Well-Known Member

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    Could you please identify the "leftwingers" in your noggin that are telling you that is what "they" think?

    Is your condition bipolar? Are you also subject to comparable "Rightwingers" telling you that no one is allowed into the US, and we MUST NOT accept her?

    Please name them as well.

    I have never been afflicted with either.
     
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    Natty Bumpo Well-Known Member

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    Trumpies are incorrigible cultists, ravaged by their emotions. That is why they binge swallow "alternative facts" without even chewing.

    Judges uphold the US Constitution because we are a nation of laws, not of cult messiahs.
     
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    So logi, have you found anyone on this forum who thinks anyone has a "RIGHT" to come to the US?

    I didn't think so.
     
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    Because republicans, far more than democrats, are about logic, and the rule of law.

    Republicans are about logic. That's complete bull(*)(*)(*)(*). I wonder if you were able to type that with a straight face.
     
  9. Eyeswideopen1989

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    Its already been shown many times in this and other threads. I would hope that you possess the capability and desire to research things before formulating such strong opinions.

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    Yes, they scream racist at any who wants illegal immigration to stop, and legal vetting to occur. Therefore any reasonable person can see they oppose vetting.

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    The judge is objectively going against the law an constitution. It is this nonsense that shows liberals lack critical thinking capability and are simply emoting.

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    Yes, lefties who oppose building a wall to help limit illegal immigration. Lefties who oppose the objectively lawful and very reasonable temporary ban on immigration from certain areas.

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    Its simply the truth. You dont see republicans out rioting and screaming at people, claiming to be about freedom and tolerance while attempting to silence those who disagree with them, block movement and assault thos who disagree, etc.

    Lefties are very illogical.
     
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    I totally agree ! I wonder out of all those that blocked this temporary ban if any had the same compassion and offered to house, feed and take care of these immigrants that will be coming in before the ban is reinstated !! That at least would save the government a few dollars !! I am sure the 9th district judge has a few extra bedrooms as well as all those protesting in the streets !! Would Nancy Pelosi and others volunteer the same !!
    Truth is their compassion only goes so far !! If its in your neighborhood its fine but not in theirs !!
    Any here want to volunteer ??
     
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    though i see the term "lefty" as so imprecise that it is nearly meaningless, there seems to be quite a few folks willing to embrace the label and, almost to a man, they have failed to give any good reason we should should be welcoming the millions of illegal immigrants and questionable refugees they are insisting we take in. i've seen the usual deflection in the form of the grammar nazis, the ones who always claim that no one right of center "understands", the childish "i know you are but what am i" fools and the mindless "prove it" folks, but only one post has even touched on a viable reason. so, the question has been asked. with millions of our own citizens out of work and after suffering the slowest "recovery" on record, if it isn't just some knee-jerk emotional reaction and there really is a viable economic reason, what is it? we know there is no legal command that we support these people and they have no "right" to be here, so what is the rationale behind demanding that we accept the presence of ten to fifteen million illegal immigrants (a conservative estimate) and allow an untold number of poorly vetted refugees from some of the most dangerous nations on earth to simply walk in the door?
     
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    Try to control your emotions. Your worship of your messiah prevents you from understanding the law.
     
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    You Leftists are the ones that need to get your emotions under control and stop rioting in the streets. The election is over. The Demon Queen of Corruption, Hillary, lost. It's over. Get over it.

    As for this judge, he did pro Bono work for refugees and illegals (& BLM fan). He was clearly biased and should have recused himself. It will be reversed on appeal. Probably not the appellate court because Obama stacked most of them with radical Leftists. But it will be overturned in the Supreme Court. The President has the authority to restrict entry into the country for any non-citizens. That is the law as written. US citizens are the only people with an inherent right to be here.

    This is political grandstanding. That's all it is. And Leftists are totally out of control now on an emotional roller coaster as they completely lose their minds when they lose power. A lot of Democrats voted for the Visa Waiver Program Improvement and Terrorist Travel Prevention Act of 2015, including Chuckie Schmucky Schumer.

    Also, every President since Carter has restricted access to non-citizens for limited periods of time. & there were no protests or lawsuits. Again, this is just political grandstanding by the overly emotional Left.
     
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    Your rant references no specific instances of whatever you rant about. Please provide a link to a reliable source concerning whoever is "demanding" that "we allow allow an untold number of poorly vetted refugees from some of the most dangerous nations on earth to simply walk in the door."

    As best as I have been able to determine, these demanding folks only exist in the minds of paranoid xenophobes who are unable to identify any such individuals.

    Try to return to reality.
     
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    Those leftists that fester in your noggin are preventing you from thinking clearly. A conservative Republican judge has ruled according to the law, and the fact that it does not facilitate your messiah's xenophobia makes him and you hysterical, but we are a nation of laws.

    No one is is "demanding" that "we allow allow an untold number of poorly vetted refugees from some of the most dangerous nations on earth to simply walk in the door," and your fantasizing about such silly nonsense will only get you in an emotional tizzy.
     
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    No, you're incorrect in your assessment. They all have an agenda. Their agenda doesn't Trump the Constitution. He has the authority to act in the interest of national security. The Supreme Court will eventually iron this out.
     
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    Wow, just got back from a white supremist rally? Might help if you knew the def of liberal. From the Latin liber = free. For the individual and small gov. Let me guess high school white boy
     
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    They do say most of our high school white boy forum membears couldn't pass the years of fbi etc screening the refugees go through. Not to say they have more gonads than all our high school Obama haters put together

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    And probably couldn't pass the vetting the refugees go through
     
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    Do you think you could pass the 3 years of overseas vetting the Syrian refugees go through? Guess you would have banned the Syrian inventor of your iphone
     
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    That right there..the underlined is the main disagreement.
    It is just plain false. and it was a winning ticket, showcasing that classic fear mongering wins elections. Which the current left hate....fear mongering the ignorant...willfully ignorant or not it is wrong.
     
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    Why on earth would you say that. No lefties I know believe it. You're Not sure it's your jaundiced views? . Got any specifics?
     
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    Not sure you are talking refugees?. Women and kids who have suffered way more than you can ever imagine? I at least I think the few thousands should be able to apply after vetting (which probably you couldn't pass)
     
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    Why not let them in? With your rationale your ancestors might have been denied entrance to the USA when they first came over.
     
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    Its the women and children who are the most dangerous. Most of the recent attacks here were from Muslim children who grew up here after their parents came here. They do not assimilate well
     
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    The law is written expressly to show my interpretation is the correct one. It has always been accepted by both sides this way, until now. I wonder why? lol

    Lefties will always look for semantics to bail them out of an argument they have lost.

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    Liberals care nothing about "free". Unless its free stuff.
     

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