Voter Fraud - Please Explain

So, to be intellectually consistent, if you believe there could have been a significant amount of voter fraud in the last election, then one would have to admit that Trump may not have been legally elected. If there can be fraud, then it is equally possible for supporters of either candidate to have committed the crime.

Considering the pre-election polling, it would be entirely possible. That is, if you want to play this game.

 

The information is in the references I've listed and summarized in the link below:

http://www.redstate.com/patterico/2016/10/20/throwback-thursday-remember-rigged-al-franken-election/

 

citing right wing opinion sources isnt adult

 

Name calling and insults are not adult.

 

there was no name calling. right wing fake news like your just isnt adult

 

"right wing propaganda".

Your post is just left wing propaganda. In fact, it's a liberal extremist post. Therefore, you have something in common with neocons! You guys should kiss and make up

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How? The basis is California with the biggest "alleged" illegal voting count. Trump didn't win CA anyway.

Your post makes no sense. If anything, trump would gain electoral votes, but not lose them.

 

Judicial-watch is a far right wing organization. And in person voter fraud has been investigated, repeatedly, BY REPUBLICANS NO LESS, FOR DECADES. They can never find (*)(*)(*)(*). They've been forced to admit this fact multiple times in court when asked to justify their voter suppression ID laws.

The occasional one off case of fraud happens, yes, sometimes intentionally, far more often accidentally. But the idea that it's anything more than a tiny grain of sand on a vast beach has been debunked over and over again.

 

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The US intelligence community concluded in a declassified report that Russian President Vladimir Putin conspired to help Donald Trump in the 2016 presidential election.

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Line at one polling place, November 8, 2016.​

 

The true tests of such an undocumented claim are 1) Does credible evidence exist? and 2) Does the undocumented claim prop up an obvious, partisan agenda?

 

https://youtu.be/5IuJGHuIkzY

 

One of the greatest shames is having that moron in office deciding what we little people talk and argue about just by what he decides to say or tweet, no matter how silly or unfounded it is. If he brings up false accusations of widespread voter fraud, then by golly, that's what we're all going to argue about.

 

If your assertion is that votes were illegally cast, then why not KKK members voting multiple times in Florida? Or Trump
FanBoys voting multiple times in Penn.? If voting is compromised, why would it only be in California?

 

They don't hold a candle to California but I'm not counting that out either.

 

I won't say all Democrats don't believe in voter fraud, but the party teaches them to believe in voter suppression.

I don't get that one. But I won't tell them I know for a fact there is no voter suppression.

But If I claim there is voter suppression, I have yet to read the democrat that demands proof. They don't offer proof.

My thinking revolves around understand how loose California is just to register to vote.

Why I ask does CA require I produce a birth certificate, not any birth certificate, but one that is embossed with the stamp from my county of birth just to have a real estate license? I can vote with no proof. I have never proved to the voter registar that i am a legal citizen. I got an appraiser license. Guess what that included for me? Yup, birth certificate, embossed as official, then my next move was they had me checked out by the FBI. Would voters submit to FBI checks to get registered? I wager democrats won't. Same thing once Dodd Frank hit me. More proof of citizenship to them and also a new FBI check.

Talk about suppression of my right to get a job.

 

NH was a prime example of bad voter laws allowing for this conversation.
I defy anyone to tell me the voter set up in the state makes any sense.

Last Nov 9th, Election DAY, one could show up in New Hampshire, THAT DAY, and register to vote, AND VOTE, only required to have a drivers license from ANY state, if you signed a document claiming you planned to someday move to New Hampshire. You don't see a problem with that set-up?
With that law in place,
Trumps assertions are based on wide spread reporting that cars with Massachusetts plates were seen at voting precincts across Southern New Hampshire.
Now given that a Democrat voter saw no need to vote in Massachusetts due to the overwhelming Liberal turnout throughout their state, it is not a far stretch to make this assertion that the possibility was there.
And that is why he is launching an investigation. If they find Mass residents voting en masse in New Hampshire what's your next excuse?

 

I wonder how many and which states force you to show ID in order to register. By ID I mean genuine ID so they can tell if you are a citizen or not?

CA has no system to check you out as it is done today.

 

How does your state know you are a legal citizen?

 

Well if voter ID laws are discriminatory towards minorities, then requiring a photo ID to buy a firearm is discriminatory against minorities - isn't it?

 

Well the first problem is an ID doesn't prove citizenship or permanent residency.

 

DNC standard talking points.

I see the DNC posting on this forum daily. They may think they are fooling us, but guess what?

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Well, you heard of Birth certificates?

 

So bring your ID and your birth cert to the voting station? Why not something easier. We create a fingerprint database for US citizens. It would also be helpful for police when solving cases and identifying victims of crimes.

 

So your claim is the Russians are better cheaters than the Democratic party is?

Russians had no way to control the election. It takes people here in America to pull that off. The DNC has the people.

 

What I know for a fact is several things.
A. I am registered to vote in CA. And I re registered to vote in 2016. Also prior to that, i had looked into voter cheating by Democrats. Well, anybody in fact, r or d.

My signature, not even notarized, was good enough for my county. I showed no proof of any kind, not even a drivers license.

When talking to the registrar's office, I brought up voter cheating. Supposedly you can't cheat because you promise not to when you sign the form. I kid you not. It say you are telling them you are a citizen. So Paco or Jose simply claims he is a citizen and he is good to vote.

Contrast that to my professional license. At the moment I have but one. To be a broker of real estate. This is the highest license. To get mine, I had to submit an embossed birth certificate. This means the county of my birth swears I am a citizen born in that county of California. I paid much more for that than just a birth certificate.
Next, I had to also pay for the FBI to check me out.

So, license, the entire range of tests. Voter, my say so.

In California, since they do not check you out, how can they not cheat. For presidents elections, due to the electoral college, once the person gets X votes, getting more is of no use. But they won't know that until counting votes so the Democrats take no chances and rig the system.

 

Believe me I understand the frustration. Only citizens should vote and we should be proving it.