Part 37 of Post Your Tough Questions Regarding Christianity

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  1. Questerr

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    All I and other people are asking is that you accept objective evidence. Your dogma is more important to you, that's fine but don't then claim that you can "prove" your beliefs.
     
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    What does your Holy Spirit tell you when you accept the unevidenced claims of charlatans and when you lie about other's posts?
     
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    The Holy Spirit tells me you're an angry troll.
     
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    But it says nothing about your lies or your support of charlatans?

    Doesn't that bring its reliability into question? Doesn't it also contradict your claims that Christians who have done bad things in the past weren't "real Christians" (ignoring your use of no true Scotsman) because the Holy Spirit would prevent them from doing them?
     
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    Trolling, trolling, trolling.
     
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    It's trolling when you respond to legitimate critiques of you position with posts like "Well I guess Einstein is just dumb, huh."

    I notice you still haven't said a single thing about what the Holy Spirit tells you about your lies.
     
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    Difference of opinion isn't a lie. Keep trolling.
     
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    It's a lie when you claim I am saying something that I did NOT say.

    Isn't bearing false witness supposed to be one of those sins the Holy Spirit is supposed to prevent "true Christians" like yourself from committing?
     
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    I think you've had enough chances. Bye.
     
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    Everyone, I present to you:

    The integrity and honesty of a "True Christian". You sir and your kind do more to make atheists than science ever will.
     
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    Quester Quote quoteDoesn't it also contradict your claims that Christians who have done bad things in the past weren't "real Christians" (ignoring your use of no true Scotsman) because the Holy Spirit would prevent them from doing them? quote.

    Maxwell has no idea what he is saying.

    Christians who did bad things in the past had no understanding they were doing 'bad' things. They were following the Church's instructions. The teaching of the Holy Spirit,
    as is believed today, meant little to them. The Church kept them in the dark. The workings of the 'Holy Spirit' was only for Priests and clergy. These people were Christians as much as Maxwell is a Christian. Maxwell believes only what he is told, and the Bible says. They believed what Church and the Bible says. The only difference is that Maxwell has the chance to study and judge the Bible for himself. They didn't. He won't.
     
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    Funny stuff. Nonbelievers telling us what the Bible really says. Hilarious.
     
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    There. What did I tell. you. No answer. Perhaps a little study of Church History and Bible study wouldn't come amiss. As an exChristian, preacher and Bible student I don't know? Believe me I know what the Bible really says - not what you have been taught it says.

    You've never answered any questions on here except to dismiss them with a superior sneer. You obviously have no answers.
     
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    Your rabbit trails from material outside the Bible have no authority over scripture. I believe every word in my Bible is God breathed. You can't shake my faith, and continuing to try to shake my faith is only going to frustrate you further.
     
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    Yeah, but don't know? He's a "true Christian" and the actions of "true Christians" are guided by the Holy Spirit and they are incapable of doing bad things, therefore, per God, everything he is doing is right.
     
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    Not at all. I'm just sad that you are blinded by indoctrination.

    If you're so sure they are rabbit trails and you have complete faith in the Bible, then you should have no trouble following those trails to prove them wrong. But you won't.

    The truth is you rely on others for your faith. You rely on a book chosen by men to be their scriptures. Words spoken, in many cases, by unknown writers writing about things they did not see or experience. The Bible contains truths and it contains errors. It contains real history and fiction.

    While you have a right to post on here I see no point. We all know your views. You have nothing to discuss because you refute anything outside the Bible.

    If anything you're the one who is trolling.
     
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    Yet, my beliefs appear to frustrate you more than your views frustrate me. I'm just sowing seed. I'm not the harvester.
     
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    Unbelievers like yourself like to hide behind science because you believe/hope the Bible to be mythology, that way you can reject God's existence because it is "not scientific" or "because there is no proof."

    The truth is there is absolutely no evidence we can gather from science (any science) that can conclusively and factually state, "the Bible is mythology" I haven't seen that evidence nor has anyone else seen that evidence simply because it doesn't exist.

    So it's senseless for people like you to hide behind science as if science has disproven once and for all God/Holy Bible. Again let me repeat, science cannot prove/disprove God/Holy Bible.

    The true reason why people like you reject God/Holy Bible is because once you admit there is a God, you also must realize that you are responsible to God and in need of forgiveness from Him.

    If God exists, then we are accountable to Him for our actions. If God does not exist, then we can do whatever we want without having to worry about God judging us. That is why many of those who deny the existence of God cling strongly to the theory of naturalistic evolution....it gives them an alternative to believing in a Creator God. God exists and ultimately everyone knows that He exists. The very fact that some attempt so aggressively to disprove His existence is in fact an argument for His existence.

    We Read in Scripture:

    "They know the truth about God because he has made it obvious to them. For ever since the world was created, people have seen the earth and sky. Through everything God made, they can clearly see his invisible qualities—his eternal power and divine nature. So they have no excuse for not knowing God." ---Romans 1:19-20 NLT
     
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    Once again you choose to misinterpret what I say because your view of god and the bible are as one. the bible is man's expression of his god to his fellow man, not his god's expression to man.
     
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    Disagree. Scripture is God breathed. A person MUST have the Holy Spirit to understand the Bible.
     
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    Paul may well have preached that Jesus was the head of the Church but, Paul made things up as he went.

    Paul was not a disciple (and none of the Gospels were written) so he was not privy to much of the message of Jesus nor was Paul a member of the Church of Jerusalem (founded by the disciples and led by James).

    Some of the stuff that came from Paul conflicts with the teachings of Jesus. James (brother of Jesus) called his "Sola Fide - Salvation by Faith Alone" doctrine - Foolish.

    Paul had a warped view of women which contradicts the OT and he was a sexual prude. Jesus did not teach celibacy.

    He also said nonsensical things such as claiming that people should submit to authorities - regardless of whether or not they are genocidal maniacs.

    It is unfortunate that the real Christian Church died out and the Pauline Christians carried the day. Christianity is much the worse off due to this unfortunate series of events.
     
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    The Christian theists in this thread really enjoy pretending they are special. Their indoctrinators taught them how to chase the endorphins.
     
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    The Scriptures totally disagree with you. The book of Acts written by Luke and Paul's letters tell a completely different story.
     
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    You are not making any sense A different story than what ? It was the story told in the works of Paul that I was referring to.
     
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    Oh, but I am making sense. The book of Acts and Paul's letters are Scripture, infallible.
     
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