Brilliant pro-life arguments!

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  1. DennisTate

    DennisTate Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Do you seriously think that it would be possible for a woman to
    have an abortion and experience ZERO feelings of guilt afterwards?

    Do you think it is possible for the dad.... to have zero feelings of guilt afterwards?
     
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    Derideo_Te Well-Known Member

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    The anti-abortionists have a long and sordid past of making up complete and utter BS and using it to further their anti women's rights agenda.

    For example they deliberately and maliciously created completely fabricated videos about Planned Parenthood that were exposed as being utterly bogus in all respects.

    You are giving credence to people who will stoop to criminal behavior of the very worst kind imaginable. They support the cold blooded murder of doctors!

    So my advice to you is do your own reserach before you just assume that what they are telling you is accurate.

    The Silent Scream is deliberately manipulative and misleading and it plays on the emotions rather than dealing with the facts. As I mentioned earlier all surgical abortions are done under anesthesia which would completely numb the fetus. If you don't believe me look it up for yourself.
     
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    DennisTate Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    So you admit that the foetus needs to be "numbed?"

    That at least is a step in the right direction.
     
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    DennisTate Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    http://www.canadasilentnomore.com/a...east-cancer-link-to-abortion-is-significant!/
     
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    Did you research it yourself first to find out if it was credible or if it has been debunked?

    Again just use your own head and do the math!

    If a million women per year are having abortions and this increases the risk of cancer then why has the CDC not reported an epidemic of abortion related cancer in this nation?
     
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    Yes, because it is not about guilt!

    At most there is some regret over the loss of a potential life but the most common feeling that most women have is actually relief.

    Pregnancy is life altering for women and if they are not prepared for it and/or not well enough to handle it then it is actually unfair for them to give birth to a child that they know that they cannot provide for adequately.

    The anti abortion disinformation exploits the concept of guilt for their own nefarious agenda but women themselves are much more pragmatic in how they approach pregnancy and abortion in my experience.
     
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    OOOh, an "online friend" .

    A. You believe everything you read online?!! Bad thing to do.

    B. ONE person's experience is NOT everyone's experience. Nor should it be used to pass laws restricting others.

    C. I had a friend who got very depressed when their dog died...so no more pets for everyone??

    D. I know a man who got depressed when he didn't get a promotion.....give all men a promotion?


    What was I expecting when I got in to this discussion? The same old unfounded crap that's usually put forth by the Anti-Women's rights group.....and I got it.
     
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    The fetus does not NEED to be numbed at all.

    Instead it is numbed because the uterus is numbed and the fetus is connected to the uterus directly.

    In the rare late term abortions the dosage of anesthesia is increased to the point where it is probably fatal to the fetus.

    The point here is that the anti abortion emotive allegation that the fetus "feels pain" is utterly bogus.
     
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    Golly....imagine that...A baby who enjoys being sung to....AMAZING!
     
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    ..and doesn't do a thing to further your "argument"
     
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    Because of the possible negative side effect of
    abortion doctors and nurses feeling increased levels of guilt......
    which could cause some of them to retire early......
    or even refuse to perform certain tasks under
    certain conditions.
     
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    It is amazing........
    to both of her parents........
    and she is now singing in church in front of the whole church......
    every month or two........
     
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    If you are not prepared to do your own research why should I not just let you wallow in your own ignorance?

    I am being serious here.

    If all you want is to "feel good" by regurgitating disinformation then go right ahead and don't let me stop you.

    But if you are actually interested in LEARNING about the topic and UNDERSTANDING what is involved beyond just the emotive nonsense then that is something completely different.

    I am more than willing to engage with you and answer difficult questions, such as the one you posed about guilt, but only if you are willing to have an open mind on the topic and accept that while abortion is regrettable it is a fact of life until we can provide every woman with effective long acting contraceptives to reduce the incidence of abortions to the bare minimum.
     
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    So we should take away women's rights because of "possible side effects" of others? NO.


    Most women feel relief after having an abortion.....should we force all women to have abortions???


    Answer the questions in post #44....
     
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    Codswallop!

    The CDC is not beholden to the feelings of any doctors or nurses anywhere.
     
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    :) You're floundering and grasping now, that has nothing to do with abortion or women's rights.
     
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    That has absolutely NOTHING to do with ANYTHING you did in Utero....NOTHING!

    Much like your fixation with NDE it is mere imagination without fact to give it credence.
     
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    Where ARE the "Brilliant Pro-Life Arguments" ??
     
  21. DennisTate

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    Well......"brilliant' is a word and is subject to definition.......
    much like "sex" as so eloquently explained by President William Clinton........

    ... my definition for the word brilliant may be somewhat different than yours FoxHastings.......

    But an IQ of 156 certainly would indicate hope for eventual brilliance.......


    http://www.politicalforum.com/index...s-iq-around-156.497274/page-6#post-1067266620

    Is President Trump's IQ around 156?
     
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    No surprise you're a Trump fan....and no surprise you have to go Off Topic.........haven't got much else....:) Can't answer any of those "inconvenient" questions....
     
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    Trump has a marginal IQ in the 90-110 range and his EQ is around pre school age.
     
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    Is President Trump's IQ around 156?

    That is not only laughable, it is irrelevant as IQ tests are unreliable indicators of intellectual prowess. If ideed this is mesant to be a measure of his ability to form rational or competent thought and you are suggesting he has skill in this regard then, you obviously do not.
     
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    If I am reading it properly my SAT was 1199, but President Trump scored around 1500.....
    so that is actually a pretty significant indicator that he is a quick study.
     

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