The Pernicious Myth of the Good Guy With a Gun

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  1. An Taibhse

    An Taibhse Well-Known Member

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    There is no other country like the US...period. No basis for equivalence in history, demographics, or by almost any other measure that could isolated as causal for the differences.
     
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    The BM Members want so much to turn the USA into another effete Euro-nanny state gun banning society
     
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    That's irrelevant when the numbers are so small as to be statistically insignificant. The entire point is that the numbers VPC uses for its "analysis" are so small as to be essentially statistically zero.
     
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    Well if they are irrelevant....then just humor me. What do you think it is?
     
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    I think its irrelevant.
     
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    And I think it is completely relevant.
     
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    But you are not scientific. If you want to compare statistically insignificant data, go for it. I'm not going to waste my time.
     
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    You are welcome to ignore the science if you wish to
     
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    Purely Annecdotal evidence.
     
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    It is statistical analysis
     
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    No, it is not.
     
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    29 people in 14 years in a country with a populaton of over 300 million is not rare? Vegas, you need to learn about basic math and statistics.....
     
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    How is the statistical analysis of the number of child gun deaths in first world countries NOT statistical analysis?
     
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    Are you saying 29 children have died in 14 years by gun shot? Really? LOL
     
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    It is irrelevant grasping at unrelated straws.
     
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    I'm responding Post #246, which is your response to Post #245, which was about the VPC's use of spurious statistics. Post #245 is quoted below.

    You keep changing the subject so much that you don't remember what you are arguing.....
     
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    When I was being raised in West Belfast more children were killed by security forces than by accidental or otherwise gun death. Anyone shooting a child, raping a woman or preying on the old and defenseless wouldn't be long for the world, regardless of the alliegance of the shooter.
     
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    I find this quote quite telling.

    Analysis by the Violence Policy Center has found that at least 29 mass shootings since 2007 were carried out by perpetrators with concealed carry permits. That’s more than three times the number of concealed permit holders who prevented mass shootings through their swift action
     
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    You can never know how many mass shootings were presented by CCP holders. If a bad guy was stopped before shooting 4 people, thus falling into the mass shoooting category, there is no way to know if that shooting didn't prevent additional victims; the threat was stopped which is the purpose, so no conclusions can be drawn except to support VPC's already strongly biased narrative.
     
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    If a CCP holder is quick enough a threat is minimized before victims pile up.
     
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    More BS. In every post I maintained that the numbers were statistically insignificant. You have no argument.
     
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    This is what happens when people respond to someone who has no intention of having an honest discussion.
     
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    Where are all the good guys with the guns?
     
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    You just read about one, that's what this OP is about.
     
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    Hey you got one. Well that's just great. That certainly makes up for all the other morons with guns that kill people.
     

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