two categories of liberals

I'm not trying to be offensive (really), but I have noticed that liberals/Dems fall into two categories and it's all about the '60s. They are either old hippies who had the best time of their lives in the '60s. They were young, impassioned with common causes, they marched, they smoked pot, yada yada. Or...they are young people whose biggest regret is that they weren't alive during the '60s and they have heard about it from perhaps their parents, as well as liberal professors. When they showed the piles of garbage after the Dakota Pipeline protests, I asked my husband what it reminded him of. He instantly said "post-woodstock," which was EXACTLY what I was thinking! I heard some of those protesters afterwards say that even though they failed, it was "a great experience" and "an experience we'll always remember." Enough said.

 

That's cute as can be. You have such a beautifully simplistic mind. It's a joy to behold.

 

Who you married to, Archie Bunker?

Lol, leave it to a right winger to be more worried about the trash left behind at protests than the giant oil company threatening the only clean water source of an indigenous people.

It's fascinating watching people remain totally unaware that they have been made into billionaire propagandists.

 

There's a lot of truth to this. Progressives measure themselves based on how much social change they can enact during their lifetimes, and the 60's radicals are revered because they helped usher in a tremendous amount of social change. The younger generations want to be able to say the same thing when they are old and start reflecting back on their lives, but the problem is, the low hanging fruits have already been picked. They have to reach a lot higher to produce the same results. That's why they are fighting so hard for things like transgenderism, Muslim immigration, illegal immigration and open borders, child sex reassignment surgeries, and others.

It's going to be interesting to watch how far out there they are going to go in the future.

 

Bill Gates is a Progressive.
Warren Buffett is a Progressive.
Steven Speilberg is a Progressive.

Do any of these people fall into the little make-believe world that you have created about what being more liberal on issues is all about? Back to the drawing board for you.

 

There IS a tiny element of truth in your post.
I came back from Vietnam right before Woodstock, but missed it.
I joined Vietnam Veterans Against the War, and grew my hair and smoked pot. (I was a "hippie" only in outlook, I worked my way thru college - the GI Bill got me like $50 a month - "Gee, I can buy A book").

I have often felt that many in the GOP are jealous that they missed out on those times - ones like Pence and Santorum - who seem to regard sex as "dirty" (well, sometimes it can be ) and want to punish "loose" women who never gave them a second glance.
(I also think those 2 are going to "come out" soon - no straight man I know thinks as much about homosexuals as those two prissies).

 

It would just seem to me that it's hypocracy to protest to protect a clean water source, and then pollute the ground. There is no good reason that they didn't keep their site clean, except that this was political, and they really didn't give a **** about the environment.

 

The problem created by partisan politics is that it creates a need to compartmentalize values and stereotype special interests to define political affiliation. . . . This only widens our division and inhibits democratic process, leaving us wide open for exploitation. Economic concerns are the main areas of contention, but special interests are often introduced to gain advocacy for unrelated causes.

The unique concept leading to the formation of our system of government was that the people of a nation could effectively govern themselves if they would individually commit to adopt a uniform fundamental set of values which would ensure a nation united in its purpose despite individual differences. However, lately, the factor of money has become a formidable obstacle to both our unity and our values. To counteract this effect we must reaffirm our belief that money, while essential to our progress and stability, must not be allowed to interfere with our basic rights and our freedom. Economic wealth and progress have been the by-products of our unity, but we must take care that what we do to protect our achievements does not supersede our commitment to our values, or our own creations will destroy us.

"UNITED WE STAND, DIVIDED WE FALL."

 

I think that you could come up with all kinds of categories for "left-wingers" and "right-wingers". I like to think that there are "radicals" at each end of the spectrum who are so emotionally tied to their ideals and concepts that rational thought and conversation is not possible. Then there is a mass of "moderate-rights" and "moderate-lefts" who definitely have preferences but are somewhat open-minded. Unfortunately, it seems that few moderates are motivated enough to expose themselves on a political forum.

Myself, I was a little too old for the Hippie movement and was into school, marriage and profession. Now, I would like to do want I can to leave this country a little better for my children and grandchildren. I am moderate-left, but I am opposed to open borders (That is a stupid idea.) and I am in favor of "rational" and "humane" immigration control. (I understand that immigrants have a lower crime rate than the general population.) I want to see changes that will result in a better quality of life and society in our country - changes that produce respect, acceptance, and opportunity for every resident and their children. Let's really make America greater.

I apologize. I got started writing and I couldn't stop.
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You made me spit out my coffee!!!

 

The OP is a simplistic overgeneralization unworthy of further comment.

 

I like to stick people into neat little boxes so then I never have to think when I have a conversation with someone.

 

I thought you were going to make reference to the classic "Those Stalin would call 'useful idiots'" and "those who would be Stalin."
Yours was more original, but less fun

 

I don't buy 100% of what you're saying, but there does seem to be a germ of truth to it. It does seem that the modern liberal/progressive is on a constant march (pun intended) to recreate the 60's. I've noticed that they repurpose the very same 60 year old slogans, "Hey Ho fill in the blank has got to go."

That's why there seems to be no limit to the stupidity they'll sink too for fear of not being in on the ground floor of the next civil rights movement. They always want to have "been there from the beginning." That's why it's now considered a civil right for middle aged men to be able to pee in the same bathroom as preteen girls. I've often wondered if the idiocy would ever bottom out and people would just say enough, a guy in a dress is not a girl, no matter how he "self identifies," but there doesn't seem to be any bottom because the left is afraid of being the George Wallace or Lester Maddox of the next civil rights movement.

 

I certainly don't approve of littering, but let's be reasonable: littering cannot be compared to an oil spill into a river or dumping coal ash in one. Pollution is entirely different from littering, but thank you for a nice rant.

 

This is what I think too. The poor Indians must have known by the end that no matter what the pipeline did, it couldn't possibly be as bad as what the protestors left behind.

 

Lol, yeah, it was all political. Typical right winger who literally hasn't spent 5 seconds actually looking into the matter besides what Fox and Brietbart fed you.

 

I was too young to smoke pot in the 1960's, but I made up for it in the 1970's..through today...I'll bong to that..

 

It gave those with court ordered community service something to do..

 

How one judge others says more about the judge than the judged.

 

Some people just have a natural talent... so they can do things without even trying
It appears that you are such a person... able to be offensive by just being yourself
How fortunate you are to have been born with such a talent. No doubt this talent will be the basis for a wonderful life

That makes as much sense as saying that all conservatives are all about the 60s

I am willing to bet that a very small fraction of the people who were alive in the 60s ever marched for anything
On the other hand... and I don't want to be offensive. Virtually all conservatives went to Vietnam and shot children... its just what co servatives like to do. That is why bush invaded Iraq... lots of young conservatives missed the opportunity to shoot children In Vietnam ... not trying to be offensive tho

Wow... hard to stop marveling at your remarkable insight

If you asked your husband something, I am sure he understood that it was a rhetorical question demanding agreement, not discussion. Not being offensive, but that is what wives do

A well trained husband is a treasure for any wife

Somehow, I get the feeling that you never have said enough in your life

 

Littering is a form of pollution, and it's the easiest preventable. Anybody who leaves litter on the ground is no better than a corporation who builds an oil pipeline. Both are bad for the environment.

 

WOW.
THAT is amazing.
"couldn't possibly be as bad" - are you for real? You ever try drinking oil? Litter is worse? I am trying hard not to insult you, but THAT is "special".
By the way, the Native Americans WERE the protestors....

 

Cute flamebait thread...but flame bit none the less

 

Nicely done.
I just want to correct you - conservatives don't actually go to war - they just like sending others to go to war, otherwise you are spot on.