Why has Science Become Politicized?

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  1. Kode

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    Mars ice appears to be shrinking.

    Blame man for that.

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    I don't consider greenhouse gasses to be "magical."

    Just admit that you refuse to accept the facts because that's what your corporate-owned party of choice tells you to do.
     
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    The denier boot is on the other foot now. Not magical? Taking charge of global climate is not magic?
     
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    Frankly the USA would be far better off were the corporations to be owned by republicans.
     
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    Yet there are so many particles in the atmosphere that 400PPM, .04%, translates to about 6,000,000,000,000,000 CO2 molecules per square inch.
     
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    No, the example was to illustrate how it's asinine to try and measure the effects of particles in the atmosphere based on some layman size comparison- i.e: tablespoons relative to a pool.
     
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    It's not about what's happening now, it's about the future. Africa is projected to have around 3 billion people by ~2060, and it's one of the largest untapped natural resource reserved on the planet. Given Africa tends to lag about 50 or so years behind the rest of the world, and have only started industrializing, they pose the greatest threat. China is beginning to move away from an industrial economy and towards an urban/information one. First world nations have the money to actually adopt cleaner energy tech if need be. As first world nations move away from fossil fuels it only becomes cheaper for the third world to use them.
     
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    "climate change is happening on another planet, therefore human economic activity cannot affect earth's climate"

    what a stupid argument.
     
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    Still not enough to make much difference.
     
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    I guess we're supposed to believe that our CO2 pollution is waifing across the millions of miles and warming Mars too.
     
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    your source is a single guy from 2007

    not only that, but it provides this side by side:

    "The conventional theory is that climate changes on Mars can be explained primarily by small alterations in the planet's orbit and tilt, not by changes in the sun.

    "Wobbles in the orbit of Mars are the main cause of its climate change in the current era," Oxford's Wilson explained.

    All planets experience a few wobbles as they make their journey around the sun. Earth's wobbles are known as Milankovitch cycles and occur on time scales of between 20,000 and 100,000 years.

    These fluctuations change the tilt of Earth's axis and its distance from the sun and are thought to be responsible for the waxing and waning of ice ages on Earth.

    Mars and Earth wobble in different ways, and most scientists think it is pure coincidence that both planets are between ice ages right now.

    "Mars has no [large] moon, which makes its wobbles much larger, and hence the swings in climate are greater too," Wilson said"
     
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    Now you're denying that CO2 is a greenhouse gas?

    Your posts get stranger by the day
     
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    And you base that on WHAT??
     
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    So, what does the two planets have in common?
     
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    most of the atmosphere is NOT greenhouse gases.

    the two largest greenhouse gases are water, methane, and CO2

    but water is not stagnant and is constantly evaporating and then condensating.

    CO2 is the main greenhouse gas.

    without greenhouse gases, the world freezes.
     
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    They're also moving off coal and into renewables...and leading the world in that regard primarily because of the vacuum we have left
     
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    No, but when you only get .004 percent, I don't shout danger danger from the roof tops either.

    We are talking in this sort of scale

    A milion dollar in 1 dollar bills is stacked on the table
    A person sneaks off with 400 dollars. Has this hurt the millionaire?

    By a huge amount?
    By almost no amount?

    We can rid the planet of carbon dioxide due to humans by a mass extermination policy. We don't really need Africa, do we? What about South America? Australia is mostly waste land. Can we terminate them?
     
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    CO2 has increased by 40% since 1750
     
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    And you have the scientific background to discount what actual scientists are in almost total agreement on?

    Please illustrate that background so we can give your posts the consideration they deserve (which is none)
     
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    greenhouse gases make up maybe 1% of the Earth's atmosphere.

    yet they are responsible for the Earth being warm enough for live to survive.

    the main greenhouse static gas, is CO2.

    its increased 40% since 1750

    Vostok ice cores show that there is a corrolation between temperature rise and CO2 rise.
     
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    OK then...So....Which experiment has proven man can control the Earth's climate?
     
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    cloud seeding

    pollution by CFCs

    pollution by sulfer dioxide and other particulates.
     
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    The same thing global warming is based on....ZILCH!
     
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    so you're saying the Earth isnt getting warmer?

    LOL!!!! science denial is sad
     
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