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  1. Iranian Monitor

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    In light of a conversation I had with Mandaleus on the role and influence of religion in Iran, and what I am about to post, let me say this clearly: even Iranian conservatives are now days courting and competing for the secular vote in Iran! To underscore that point, not only Raisi campaign rallies feature prominently women who are wearing very loose Hijab (see the video I posted earlier), but most interesting was a meeting the other day that Raisi had with an Iranian rap artist, Tataloo, who has 5+ million followers on Instagram. The image of Tataloo and Raisi was indeed a sight to behold!

    Here is one of Tataloo's music videos called "Forbidden".

    P.S.
    Tataloo has come out endorsing Raisi!!
     
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    You simply cannot be taken seriously as a poster with garbage like this. Why don't you join the flat earth society, they're more credible than you are at this point.

    The ancient canard; it's the JEWS!!! They control the world!!

    Come up with something new.
     
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    Any shyness he had was ripped out of him by his father and uncles and brther.

    Oh yeah stealing over $1.2 Billion out of Lebanon helped too!

    AA
     
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    Actually even though I am a man who abhors violence I might just give you the hardest face slap of your life for your avatar!! LOL!!!!

    Andy Warhol is ROLLING AROUND IN HIS GRAVE RIGHT NOW!! LOL!!

    AA
     
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    Well it is GOOD the Iranian Theocracy is loosening up a bit because right now the Iranian Theocratic Government has an approx. 3 year lifespan plus or minus 4 months.

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    They have v=been doing that for YEARS but lately quite a bit more considering you know?

    It's all falling down.

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    Side with them???

    YOU MEAN HELPED PLAN THE ABDUCTION AND MURDERS OF IRANIAN PRO-DEMOCRACY MOVEMENT LEADERS DURING THE ARAB SPRING!!!

    Qud's Force has blood all over it's hands on that one as well!!

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    Let's get this straight.

    If any plan by any country is brought forth that the United States considers FAIR AND EQUITABLE FOR ALL SIDES.......Israel will agree with it. The U.S. would make sure of it.

    Why?

    Because the time is coming soon where Iran either gives up it's Nuclear Ambitions or the U.S. Invades.

    The U.S. really does not want to invade Iran comsidering how close Iran is to turning the corner and becoming a true democracy.

    But at the same time.....THE UNITED STATES WILL NOT ALLOW ISRAELI BOMBINGS OF ACTIVE IRANIAN NUCLEAR FACILITIES!!

    That would poison the entire Middle East with Radioactive Dust.

    So Iran better work something out with Assad QUICK because ONE THING about U,S, PRESIDENT TRUMP.......NONE OF YOU WILL EVER SEE AN INDICATION OF A MASSIVE AND OVERWHELMING U.S. INVASION COMING!!


    We are going to end this S#!T ONE WAY OR ANOTHER!!

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    I see AA is back with his typical chest thumping he is known for:)

    I admit that the chances of war against Iran are higher than before, which is why I never accepted the premise that the nuclear deal -- a deal which even the Trump administration admits Iran has been observing, while the US has actually breached it in some ways -- would help on that score but the reverse. With Iran giving up its surge capacity, it is much more likely for the US to decide to take some form of military action (along with other actions aimed at subversion and bringing instability to the country) against Iran, although the form the action is something we can quibble about.

    That leaves the Iranian electorate with two choices: 1- vote for Rouhani, and hope that he can make enough concessions and give enough sweat heart deals to the EU and company, to push the EU to try to restrain Trump and his gang; or 2- vote for Raisi, and rely instead on Iran and its own resources, allies and friends, to restrain Trump and his gang. Both choices are risky. Rouhani would weaken Iran's deterrent capabilities even further, cause rifts within Iran's alliances with Hezbollah and company, and weaken Iran's capabilities as a whole to stand up to US aggression. And the EU hasn't shown to be either reliable enough or capable enough in the past to stand up to the US and it is likely they won't this time around either. The choice of Raisi, however, is also risky since (having already given up surge capacity), Iran may not have enough cards in hand to deter Trump and the gang on its own. Especially if Trump and his gang (the Israelis) follow the idea of putting much of the onus of the costs in blood and treasure of confronting Iran on the anti-Iran Sunni coalition he is putting together with Wahhabi Arabia and company.

    On the positive side, though, I have faith that things will work out somehow and Iran will emerge even stronger and better despite all the plans against it. But if my faith proves misplaced, I can then lean back on my nihilism and say who cares, nothing really matters. Except I have a couple of young kids which means I have to make sure I do my part (limited as it is) to make the best choices for Iran's future and hope it all work out.
     
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    If Iran want's to come out of this stronger then they give up their nuclear program and begin to switch over to REAL DEMOCRATIC ELECTIONS!!!

    If Iran did that the U.S. would pour BILLIONS OF DOLLARS into an Economic Aid Package for Iran.

    And Europe does what we tell them to do.

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    What nations like North Korea, Iran and Syria have to understand is the current U.S. President runs the nation like a CEO and when a CEO in charge of the Worlds Largest Economy......The Worlds Largest Producer of Oil, Natural Gas and Coal.....The Worlds Largest EXPORTER of Coal, Natural Gas and soon by 2023 Worlds Largest EXPORTER OF OIL.....a nation being the United States that has MORE OIL, COAL AND NATURAL GAS RESERVES than every nation on Earth put together as just ONE of the newest OIL RESERVE DISCOVERIES in Colorado is equal to 3.2 TRILLION BARRELS OF OIL which is more oil than has ever been burned in HUMAN HISTORY.....

    ......a Nation being the United States that is the LEADER OF INNOVATION and the Leader of several thousand other things important to the planet and it;s people never mind that Lockheed Martin had it's 6th successful test of it's ,MICRO-FUSION REACTOR as such Fusion Reactors we be built all over the United States and Canada starting in the mid to late 2020's.....AND the United States having the worlds BY FAR most powerful and lethal Military.....

    .......and you add that all to a U,S, President who is used to getting his way.....well.....you folks in Iran, Syria and North Korea unless you start making peace and making some smart decissions are ALL SCREWED!!

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    Yeah, like the kind that you have in Wahhabi Arabia? The place which has not known any elections, although Margot tells me they held some election in the 1950s and no one showed up:)
    There are no real democratic governments in this world, but in this region, Israel, Iran and Turkey are the only ones who more or less keep the pretense to any serious degree. Assad tried in 2014, holding remarkably open and fair elections, but since the Syrian people overwhelmingly participated and Assad won, none of those who had plunged Syria into civil war to get rid of Assad (and his alliance with Iran/Hezbollah) were impressed.

    The only way for Iran to have any chance of reducing the ingrained US hostility against it, which these days is driven by the Israel lobby, is to basically give up its alliances with anti-Israel groups like Hezbollah and basically close its eyes and pretend it doesn't notice what Israel does and shut its mouth and pretend it has nothing to say about it. But that only way would mean Iran can never have a democratic system, since the Iranian people (whose sentiments matter in any democracy) are neither blind nor mute.
     
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    Actually all Iran has to do is abide by the NPT which IRAN SIGNED in order to PURCHASE Nuclear Reactors and Technology it could not develop on it's own.

    It will come down to this....if Iran PUBLICLY DECLARES IT HAS NUCLEAR WEAPONS which would be the biggest violation of the NPT......Israel will begin to develop plans to bomb all Iranian Nuclear Facilities.


    THE UNITED STATES WILL NOT ALLOW THAT!!!!

    Thus the U.S. will INVADE!!

    ONLY the United States has the Military capability to SEIZE all Iranian Nuclear Facilities and the vast majority of the Iranian Military such as the Iranian Navy, Air Force and Regular Army will STAND DOWN rather than be obliterated.

    The Iranian Republican Guard might decide to fight but they would be easily overwhelmed by U.S. Military Forces.

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    Trump is already a lame duck.
     
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    It is one of the greatest myths and a big lie to say that it was better under the Shah.
    Sure, apparently freer about the Islamic things, such as, for example, the need to keep the headscarf, etc. However, the following facts are an undeniable fact:
    1. Like any dictator in the ME, the Shah and his regime based on the minorities of their population as far as power is concerned. These were protected by him, preferred and they occupied switching points of power.
    2. This apparent freedom went to the detriment of everything, for which the US stands with its constitution and its values. Democracy, free media, freedom of speech, independent justice and all the many things were simply not there! Any form of opposition was drastically suppressed and combated!

    However, it is also a fact that today it is not much better in Iran!

    And as far as your statement regarding women at the universities is concerned ... well ... unfortunately the opposite is the case, the majority of the students are women!
    However, the state here drastically intervenes in terms of the rights of women regarding freedom of choice which studies they can choose!
    I , as an atheist, hate it when some religion determines something in life or even religion becomes a law... no matter which religion!
    On the other hand, one has to realize, quite soberly, that Islam is doing so in Iran, and from it arise things which we reject and regard as coercion and evil. On the other hand, some people in Islam look the other way round and regard our way of life as scandalous ... or to say it with a purely artificial concept: Sodom and Gomorra!
    But as long as this is within the borders of Iran, it is their business and we have nothing to do.
    Whoever sees this differently then has to condemn Saudi Arabia in the same breath, which are no different in the result!


    The hatred of Iran in the US since 1979, because they have allowed themselves to occupy the US Embassy and to hold the employees as hostages is generally known. But did you know why all this happened?
    Certainly, the occupation of the embassy of another country is evil and can not be justified by anything, but it is not to be justified by anything else when the other country plans and runs a counter coup out of the message, right?

    These allegedly thousands of dead and wounded US soldiers I would like to get from you in more detail. Except for the 241 dead in Beirut during the bombing by the Hezbollah and perhaps 1 or 2 dozen elsewhere, I know no other!

    However, ... it is true that Saudi Arabia is officially enduring from most things. Except for the permanent crisis heart Yemen which treated KSA almost like a colony and up to 1991 was actually nothing where the KSA war led.
    Saudi Islamists, who also face high punishments when, for example, they go to Jihad in Syria for the "Islamic State" (IS). Conversely, the IS has also declared the war openly to the Saudi royal house and has repeatedly perpetrated assassinations in KSA. Nevertheless, in Saudi Arabia, there are undoubtedly more followers of Al Qaeda and IS than in other parts of the world. What is close: the royal house is closely linked to the reactionary Wahhabism: a school of Sunni Islam. Strict supporters of Wahhabism claim that Shiites are apostates, for example, "enemies that must be fought."
    According to a report from the British House of Commons, persons and families from the Gulf countries are to finance the terrorist militia ISIS. The single Arab royal houses have obviously approved the financing. Saudi Arabia is the closest ally of the US and the EU in the Middle East.
    A British parliamentary report, released on Tuesday, concluded that the Gulf States had "historical evidence" for the financing of terrorist militia ISIS. The British Ministry of Foreign Affairs reports that persons and families related to the royal family in Saudi Arabia are to be actively involved in the financing of ISIS. In a final assessment of the ISIS finances, the British Parliament's Foreign Affairs Committee calls for "hard questions to be asked to close friends" when it comes to reviewing the donations to ISIS in Iraq and Syria. However, the London Foreign Office underlined that the ISIS funding was not backed or supported by governments in the region. The donors in the region are private individuals, but obviously they are acting with the toleration of the governments, or are not prosecuted despite their obvious behavior. The question why this does not happen is therefore pressing on!
    The Saudi prince Bandar bin Sultan, ex-ambassador to Washington and former Saudi Arabian intelligence agency, is said to have played a leading role in the Sunni rebellion led by ISIS. In addition, donations to ISIS from Saudi Arabia would not flow spontaneously. Without a blessing by the Saudi king, donations to the terror militia are not possible due to the strict total control of the regime in financial things.
    Under the codename "Timber Sycamore" there has been a close secret cooperation between the USA and the Gulf States, which began in the spring of 2013 with the massive armament of Islamist mercenaries in the Syrian conflict, the New York Times reports. While the Saudis provide the money, the Americans take over the military training of the mercenaries. But ... who are these mercenaries in detail and reality? Traces show more and more that it is ISIS too and right this fueled the accusing that the US and KSA are supporting ISIS!
     
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    There have been a few proposals to reverse the trend that sees pretty much every discipline in universities, except religious studies, dominated by women in Iran (who make for 70% of engineering students, medical students, law students etc), but they neither imply a drastic intervention or have anything to do with limiting freedom of choice for women to choose her major. Rather, some have proposed a quota of sorts, arguing that women doctors in particular aren't as wiling to serve in remote regions which need doctors and are simply overcrowding a crowded medical field in the major cities.

    Don't get me wrong: I am not religious and fully admit the intervention of religion by the government in certain (often ridiculous) areas of Iranian life. But I can't deny the fact that -- for reasons that would require greater explanation that I am able to give right now -- when it comes to the real important issues of progress for women, as weird and unexpected as it might be, Iran has made tremendous progress since the revolution. Iranian women are very prominent in public life in Iran today, even if they have to abide by the dress code rules here that some of them find liberating, others find mildly annoying, and others find downright oppressive.

    https://www.rferl.org/a/iran-seeks-balance-women-advancements-medicine/25358442.html
     
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    In Germany, we have the problem that outside the big cities is a certain medical deficit. The reason is quite simple, that a doctor has earned less and has a huge circle of patients, among other things such as idiotic billing models with the health insurance funds, etc.

    Have you also dealt with the actual or possible reasons why, for example, a young female doctor who has finished her studies does not go to the more remote regions or is less "willing" than a man?
     
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    The conditions in rural Iran have improved dramatically, but rural and more remote regions still offer a lot less in terms of amenities and facilities for the kind of lifestyle that doctors would like. So the problem isn't really confined to women, but the problem is more acute for women than men. Some of the possible reasons are addressed in the article from "Radio Free Europe/Radio Liberty" websinte

     
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    There are two ways to look at that, which imply opposite consequences from the troubles Trump is facing domestically.

    On the one hand, his troubles weaken his ability to create mischief and to embark on any foreign adventure. On the other hand, those troubles could also make him imagine a foreign adventure, and the opportunity rally the American people behind the flag, is exactly what he needs to boost his popularity at home.

    Trump's weakness is an opportunity, IMO, for Iran to actually stand very firm and make sure it is in position to cause substantial damage to the US in case of any attempt at any military action (or any other overt intervention) against Iran. That is because while a weakened Trump might be willing to roll the dice on a foreign war that he might imagine will end in his favor without much in terms of a commitment of US treasure and blood, he will absolutely not be in any position to embark on any such adventure if it is to be costly. Which is why the reformist agenda on foreign policy isn't the one I support and believe Iran's interests are better served ignoring the pressure to give up its remaining deterrent tools and the leverage that those tools provide Iran to rebuff the threats it faces. The reformist posture, on the other hand, is to give in to whatever the EU states demand of Iran, even if they like to sugar coat their capitulation under misleading descriptions and labels.
     
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    The Saudis have put many controls in place concerning mosque donations and money wires to stop private funding of ISIS.. and if a Saudi goes to Syria to fight they go to prison when they return.

    How exactly did KSA treat Yemen like a colony? Investments, hospitals, colleges?
     
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    I to think Trump might start a war to deflect attention from what he's done.
     
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    We still had this ... controlling and saying who is leader in Yemen since ever! Anyone who was not friendly enough, had a serious problem with them and was not long head of Yemen.

    And we 2 still seriously were in discussion: Who backed again this medieval back deep Islamist scum in civil war of the 1960's?
    I know, maybe you answer again with who backed their opponent, because this was Egypt with 68,000 soldiers under Nasser who was secular and not Islamist! But this is your reason that KSA backed worst scum always ... as it is always that these Houthis are so deep evil too when they were before still victim of evil Yemen politics which were this way backed by KSA regime, simply because Houthi = Shiite?
     
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    Nasser was a communist. Egypt was fighting for communists in Yemen. KSA was fighting for the monarchy.

    Houthis were not victims of anyone or anything in Yemen.
     
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    Yep ... I know, you still wrote in the past both things ... which I object. This monarchy was a worst Islamist scum they supported and Houthis became victim of central government of Yemen before civil war started.

    You have your point of view on the issues, as I have my own and both are ... to say it without rating ... different! ;-)
     
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    Monarchy was abolished in Yemen in 1962. Houthis weren't around until the 1990s.

    In 2003, the Houthi's slogan "God is great, death to the US, death to Israel, curse the Jews, and victory for Islam", became the group's trademark.
     

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