Do white people benefit the most from gun-control?

KILLERS are going to get weapons because they do not follow laws.

 

killers don't get the weapons where you pretend they do. why are you lying about me? I have stated I don't sell guns to anyone I don't know. Yeah calling the police-with an average response time of 19 minutes is going to help when an active shooter can kill 20 people in that time.

 

The 2nd Amendment is a constitutionally GUARANTEED right. Do you think it means anything to us if YOU are frightened of murderers? Does that mean MY right should be taken or limited? NO, it does not. Move yourself to another country where there are no rights, and you will feel safe.

 

If any of these anti-rights posters wanted to learn a darn thing, they would read and learn their history.

http://www.thedailybell.com/editorials/richard-ebeling-the-importance-of-the-second-amendment/

Nor should the argument that virtually all other "civilized" countries either prohibit or severely restrict the ownership and the use of firearms in general and handguns intimidate Americans. America has been a free and prosperous land precisely because of the fact that as a nation we have chosen to follow political and economic avenues different from those followed by other countries around the world.

As a people, we have swum against the tide of collectivism, socialism and welfare statism to a greater degree, for the most part, than have our western European cousins. As a result, in many areas of life we have remained freer, especially in our market activities, than they. The fact that other peoples in other lands chose to follow foolish paths leading to disastrous outcomes does not mean that we should follow in their footsteps.

America was born in revolt against the ideas of the "old world": the politics of monarchy, the economics of mercantilism and the culture of hereditary class and caste.

 

Do you believe any potential victim should have the right to defend life or wait for the police and likely die?

 

They don't really care about life or death. This is an agenda driven argument and nothing more.

 

Of course... until they scream they are being deprived of rights.

 

They are completely irrational.

 

I don't care how frightened they are. Their fear does not and should not EVER trump MY rights as a citizen of the USA.

 

Gee: and there are states that require this instead of making it a suggestion.

What the heck: tomorrow, you snap a picture of the sign that informs the customers
that there is going to be a background check on all gun sales and I will be impressed.

 

No matter HOW hard you make it for law abiding people to get guns, the criminals will ALWAYS have easy access to them, you bunch of geniuses!

 

Yes, guns will be as hard to get as heroin is! Duh!

 

Wow.

An ATF agent walking the aisles checking to make sure that the private sellers
do background checks on all gun sales... oh wait. it isn't even the law and oh
right. . . ATF agents are federal, maybe if someone tries to sell a full on auto
he won't be wasting his time.

 

http://www.thedailybell.com/editorials/richard-ebeling-the-importance-of-the-second-amendment/

If in more recent times there has been an "American disease," it has been our all-too-willing receptivity to the European virus of political paternalism, welfare redistribution, economic regulation and planning and the passive acceptance of government control over social affairs.

We need not and indeed should not fall victim to one more of the European ailments: the disarming of the people under the dangerous notion that the private citizenry cannot be trusted and should not be allowed to have the means of self-defense against potential private and political aggressors in society. Let us stand apart once more and not fall prey to the false idea that somehow our European cousins are more enlightened or advanced than we on the matters of gun ownership and control. They are not.

Instead, let us remember and stay loyal to the sentiment of James Madison, the father of the U.S. Constitution, who praised his fellow countrymen when he said, "Americans [have] the right and advantage of being armed — unlike citizens of other countries whose governments are afraid to trust the people with arms."

Let us remain worthy of Madison's confidence in the American people and defend the Second Amendment of the Constitution upon which part of that confidence was based.

 

there is no legitimate market for heroin. even in bannerhoid cities, there are legitimate markets-cops, judges, constables sheriffs. Meaning diversion. the US GOVERNMENT loses 15,000 or so M16/M4 rifles a year. Corrupt soldiers etc will report a weapon lost in combat or in training and then sell it on the black market. Cops have guns stolen out of their cars constantly. So even if the Bannerrhoid movement was able to totally ban all civilian owned firearms crooks are still going to have a steady supply of diverted guns

 

We do make it incredibly easy for any criminal to get an untraceable gun

 

do you have any proof (facts, evidence, studies) that show criminals are getting guns from private sellers at gun shows?

 

complete nonsense. and your solutions only harass honest citizens

 

What do you think? They are Supermen or something? They are human beings and capable of all the foibles that the rest of us are! You should probably finish SCHOOL before you go getting into discussions about things you don't even understand.

 

Of course they are NOT. I've posted many times that 80-90% of all criminals get their guns from illegal means, either stealing them or buying them illegally on the black market.

A person is planning on committing a murder isn't going to undergo any "background checks." This whole idea is just stupid.

 

and the supreme court has ruled that criminals cannot even be prosecuted for failing to register a gun in their possession because that violates the FIFTH AMENDMENT. so when the BM pushes registration, they are obviously intending to harass honest gun owners

 

I am angry that some . . . . (words I can't say) want to diminish one of MY rights because they are "ascared" of mass shooters which are RARE anyways. You have a better chance of being struck by lightning than being shot unless you hang out with criminals, and if you do, then that's your OWN problem and no one else's.

 

Well they don't need to because it is super easy to get a gun without a background check

 

For the average person, you probably have a higher chance of being hit by lightning or winning the Powerball jackpot than being shot in some mass shooter event.

Public mass shooting events (4 or more fatalities) tend to be sporadic and infrequent crimes compared to “ordinary” crimes. Most tend to be committed by people with severe anger or mental health issues, though we have seen a few that could be attributed to Islamic terrorism. I’m using the term public mass shooting to distinguish the topic from more typical personal murders that may be related to, say a home invasion robbery.

Your best bet to avoid most common murders is to avoid being involved in any kinds of criminal activity. The majority of firearms related murders are perpetrated by criminals on other criminals (e.g. drug deals, gang conflicts, assaults, etc). Secondarily is to avoid going places where there is a high degree of criminal activity or crime. This minimizes your chances of being nearby to some kind of violent dispute.

Avoiding large public gatherings is one way to avoid mass shootings or terrorist actions. The higher the population density at a given place the more appealing the target likely will be for a terrorist to exploit for a high body count.

https://www.quora.com/What-are-odds-of-getting-shot-by-mass-killer-compared-to-other-means-of-death

So stay home if you're scared. Your fear doesn't trump my rights.

 

A person who is going to use a gun illegally isn't going to have a background check regardless. That is an idiotic suggestion.