What are you? Liberal? Conservative? Why?....

Hmmmm . . . well it used to be making trains run on time but with the modern, typical fascist it seems to be demanding safe spaces on university campuses while denying anyone Right of Center any rights whatsoever. Oh and pooping on cop cars. Today's leftist -- er -- fascist types are very big on that.

 

Still nothing.....huh. Lol

 

I oppose ideologs of all stripes
When I was young, I thought republicans were were the champions of sensibility
And, at the time, democrats seemed like corrupt blowhards
My opinions started changing with Nixon
Then voodoo economics
Then newt gingrich
Then George bush
And now....
I have felt nauseated that republican politicians have fallen into lock step support for expedient policies that seem to completely ignore what I understood to be traditional republican values
And watched as republicans leadership increasingly morphed into mean spirited demagogy
So, first, I registered as an independent, and later as a democrat...
not so much because of unwavering suppport for democrats
But because I could no longer stomach the Republican Party

I voted libertarian this year only because I could not stomach either R Or D
And, as loony as I think trump is, I still would not vote for clinton
I would have preferred to vote for Romney, or kasich or that other guy from Utah.
So.. what does that make me....mostly nauseated

 

Then it appears that too many people are being pigeonholed into being "conservative," liberal or some equally undesirable position.

 

I share the sentiment and found myself in the same position. At the same time, you've got to stand for something or you'll fall for anything. You have to find that platform that you most agree with and support it. And, as you support it, you can always lobby those inside to change items of the platform more to your liking. It's a journey not a destination.

 

Fiscal conservative and social moderate. I guess that makes me a centrist.

 

It's a political opinion thread; one is allowed to post a political opinion.

If someone is insulted, that is their malfunction.

 

This was a poorly done poll. I should've included way more options.

 

If Trump is the new prime example of a conservative, then smugness TOTALLY belongs to conservatives.

 

liberal socialist progressive.

 

Classical liberal.

 

You can start another poll. Anyways I was a Republican for Bush, regretted it and leaned towards independent for awhile. Cain was ok but not great and I disliked Romney. I have always considered myself a conservative but I could not bring myself to support Romney. I did not want to support Trump at first and my family tried to get me for weeks to support him. His creepy comments held me back but as I began researching Hillary I became so disgusted with her I felt I could not let her become president and Trump was starting to look better with his campain every day so I finally decided to vote for him.

Then the radical left and media bias against Trump and conservatives was so bad they pushed me back to the far right. I am now scared of what the Democratic party and left has become and I fear the day they take back power. I just don't see them wanting to work with conservatives on anything. It's their way or the highway and that's not fair.

 

Voters on both sides seem to feel the same way. Neither side trusts the other. Congressmen are just as polarized, and many of them admit they hardly even talk to members on the other side of the aisle. It's no wonder our government is so disliked, inefficient and ineffective.

I'm finally willing to believe the One Percent has cultivated this divide on purpose. They now control our media on the left and the right, as well as the slant of all the information we receive. News, Hate Radio, political shows, everything. And we all know they have owned our politicians for many decades. They also own and control our political parties.

Politicians, regardless of party, no longer work for the good of America or her people; they do what their corporate and rich masters tell them to do. Corporate lobbyists write the bills the politicians propose. Bills written to protect, further empower, and enrich corporations and the already very rich. And now the billionaires have taken over the White House, itself.

As long as the elites can keep regular Americans divided and at one anothers' throats, they can shape our government as they wish, and run the country as they choose. Over time, we will have even less power over our own government and our own lives.

Ordinary Americans have to find a way to work together. The real battle is not between Republicans and Democrats and Independents.

 

Yup !

 

It wasn't the liberal left that swore on Inauguration Day 2009 that they would oppose every plan, every action and every request of the President of the U.S. during his entire term of office. The breakdown of civility in American government wasn't due to the liberal left. It was the far Right Tea Party and extremist conservative elements that did it. I don't understand why so many Americans can't see that simple truth and stop rewarding the ones responsible for governmental dysfunction.

 

The right has worked tirelessly to learn how to manipulate its base. Read about Richard Viguery and the direct mail expertise he developed decades ago. Then they moved to Hate Radio and Hate TV. They still dominate the propoganda media market. Spewing Hate and Lies 24/7. And if you pay attention, you can begin to see the damage those efforts have done to hurt and divide our society, our country, and our government.

They, the right, have become masters at using patriotic sounding language to couch their awful groups and activities: Tea Party, Contract with America, and all their other BS endeavors.

The efforts of the right wing to brainwash the dimmer members of our society continues non-stop, 24/7, using every media, every lie, every opportunity. donald trump did not happen by accident. Brainwashing works, the Orange Doosh is proof.

All of this, along with political Dirty Tricks, Voter Suppression, etc., has paid huge dividends to the party of Nixon, trump, and other charlatans.

 

History revisionism at its finest.
The Tea party used the ballot box, and handed the democrats by ass kicking by voting. The left is trying to unseat a president by kook conspiracy theories, leaks, and by pumping bullshit out by the press.

Lay off the koolaid.

 

Trump is not a conservative. He has a few conservative views, but he's a populist with liberal tendencies.

 

Typical revisionist history. The quote by Mitch McConnell to make Obama a one term President was made in 2010, just before the 2010 midterm elections. The house Republicans were receptive to work with Obama, until he met with them in January of 2009 and told them "I won" (forgetting that each of them had also won).

 

I am a freedom fighter and the reason I cannot allow the authoritarian progressive ideology to flourish.

 

I'm extreme right wing but there's no poll button for me (sniffle)

 

I don't know what label to apply to myself, but I'm in favor of limited government, secure property rights, individual liberty, peace, tolerance, and freer markets. I guess liberal is closest.

 

I'm a Progressive because I believe in Progress. Most of humanity has never believed in Progress and only a small number do now and have for 400 years. Those 400 years have been the best that humanity has ever seen as measured by the only metric that is indisputable, humanity's population, which has increased exponentially all those 4 centuries. The only time in all of History that is even remotely comparable to now in regard to how good it was for people was Periclean Athens, and that was only a few people in one small area for 50 years. For the rest of human history most people's lives were nasty, brutal, coarse and short and there was never any change in that over thousands of years. It's still that way for most human beings but we don't ACCEPT that, we think that humanity should PROGRESS and get better over time, and that is why it is better for lots of us, much more than ever before

 

Yep, he isn't a ideologue. He ran as a populist but seems to be backing out of some of those, as people do once they take office. Trump won because enough of the voters were fed up with the economic treason, the scheme of a small group of elites to create greater disparity in income by reversing what our Founders set up to create a strong, healthy, independent nation, by not making our own people compete against slave wages, which have always existed. The Founders did not put the interests of the few elites over America the country, and over the majority which make up the citizenry of this nation. But what the Founders created has been destroyed, by doing what the Founders knew would be insanity. So he won because he appeared to be anti free trade, which really means anti offshoring our jobs to slave labor, by being anti open borders which is part B to this scheme to create the greatest disparity in income as possible. He also ran on stopping perpetual war for perpetual peace, which the forays of other president have cost trillions of dollars, much of it borrowed, so we could rebuild the out of date infrastructure here. Basically, concentrate on America, instead of only giving the elites what they want.

The reason forces in DC are colluding to take him down is because they only represent the self interests of a small group of very rich elites. And trump is a threat to this corruption of a gov't by and for the People.

 

Not really. Trump is as much part of the political establishment as is Hillary Clinton. John Boehmer is his golfing buddy, for example. You don't get more establishment than that. The establishment GOP wanted Trump over Cruz, because Trump doesn't have basic principles, and they thought they could control him better.