y Russian ambassador told Moscow that Kushner wanted secret communications channel with Kremlin

If the report is true, it violates the Espionage Act of 1917; https://www.theblaze.com/news/2017/...s-jared-kushner-could-be-guilty-of-espionage/

 

There is also a very interesting and predictable backstory to Kushner and his attending Harvard...

 

prove Obama didn't get an undeserved admission to Harvard prove he earned it give us his grades, give us his transcripts, a recommendation from a professor, his test scores, any dam thing

 

This keeps getting worse and worse. I predict this ends with some convictions.......oh wait these guys are republicans.......I predict pardons......pretrial pardons.

 

What do you mean, "try again"? I made no claim about the affirmative action part of the original post. I was specifically addressing the "idiot" part. I agree I have not found a post of yours where you accuse Obama of being an affirmative-action admittee. Feel better?

The logic here is not that complicated.

In this post, you use the mere fact of Kushner attending Harvard as evidence he is smart:
http://www.politicalforum.com/index...el-with-kremlin.505810/page-6#post-1067531389

Indeed, your final line in that post is ALL about Harvard.

Now, Obama attended Harvard, too. So by your own logic, that must mean Obama is smart.

However, I linked to a post where you called Obama "stupid".

Thus, there is a contradiction. Either the mere fact that Kushner attended Harvard doesn't prove he is smart, or you were wrong when you called Obama "stupid."

And now you undercut your previous defense, suggesting that Obama may, indeed, have gotten into Harvard for reasons other than merit.

BTW, what were Kushner's grades at Harvard? Obama graduated summa cum laude. We have no idea what Kushner did. Yet you assume Kushner is smart, and Obama is a question mark. Isn't that a bit silly?

Again, I never said anything one way or the other about Kushner's intelligence. My post covered one specific point. Stop reading more into it than is there.

My point, to be clear, is that your references to Harvard appear to represent a double standard. Either the Harvard reference doesn't belong in your defense of Kushner's intelligence, or you are being hypocritical.

You know, ironically, glancing through your past posts, you spend a lot of time trying to point out hypocrisy in others -- often correctly, in my opinion. So it's a bit weird for you to refuse to recognize the contradiction in your own claims.

 

Prove a negative? Why?

No president or candidate voluntarily releases their high school and college transcripts. Demanding Obama do so is a double standard.

And Obama graduated summa cum laude from Harvard. Thus demonstrating he got very high grades indeed one he was in.

 

not asking for you to prove a negative you can prove Obama earned it with grades, test scores, recommendation from a previous professor
The years Obama went to Harvard they were desperate to fill the student body with minorities a corpse could get admitted to Harvard if the corpse was a minority

 

"Why the secret direct channel"? Here's my theory; http://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow/...envoy-in-russian-meetings-report-924994115637 They needed a way to work around the intelligence community because of business ventures which had to happen with Russia as payment for Russia's cooperation with making sure Hillary was not elected, and that those business ventures would not only continue but to initiate new one's as well. In other words, Trump needed to pay Russia off, but that Trump is also involved heavily in many other deals with Russia. The potential big deal concerns oil, the way I see it. The goal of some of these meetings was to find a way to lift sanctions with Russia, so projects such as the half a trillion dollar oil deal in the Kara sea could proceed. How would they do that? By lifting sanctions of course.

 

As I said, nobody releases that information, so demanding that Obama do so is a double standard.

And the fact he graduated with highest honors indicates he had more than enough intelligence to be at Harvard.

Address those facts.

 

Why were they coordinating with Russia before taking power? Why did they need to hide those communications?

 

Hey Obama release those transcripts to prove to us racists that you aren't another dumb negro!

 

McMaster is dutifully repeating Trump spin.

While the US government "frequently sets up backchannels with other countries to allow for discreet communications", the Trump transition team was NOT the US government, and has no authority to act as representatives of the US government. Nor was the US government even aware (except by survaillance of the Russians), that the Trump campaign was trying to set up such a back channel.

The Trump campaign had relentlessly attacked the Obama Administration, suggesting that the US play a more concilitory role toward the Russian effort to back up the butcher Assad. So, setting up a secret back channel would have the appearance of the Trump team trying to undermine the President of the United States.

At the time in question, Russian jets were providing air support to Syrian operatives and both were dropping barrel bombs in civilians, sparking a world wide outcry.

These are the people that Kushner was trying to set up a secret "back channel" with. Without the official knowledge of the sitting President or anyone in government who were already investigating the Trump campaign's dealings with the Russians.

There, glad to put things in perspective for you!

 

If sums up just about every argument the loony left has on Trump and illegal activity.

 

I mean try again. You've already failed twice to get me to admit a statement I never made.

Then don't defend a post where 2 accusations were made and both being false. Feel better?

Yet it alludes you.

And wrong again. It wasn't just that he went to harvard but he graduated high school with honors because the argument which you obviously haven't read was that he is stupid.

And wrong again. The premise being that to get into Harvard one has to be smart. However there are two different people here both with a supposed leg up to get into Harvard. Jared has his money, Obama has his race. I've proven in the original post I gave to Margot that Jared was also an honors student in high school negating the money theory. Nothing has been provided that Obama got into Harvard based on his academic performance. Quite the opposite in fact. So the complete argument I made was not just his attendance of Harvard but his high school honors.

You simply once again did not read carefully.

Then why wont Obama release his grades? There are plenty of people who deny his claims of academic achievment from professors to classmates.

I understand you want to cherry pick your arguments but if you are going to enter another debate be prepared to defend the entire debate.

I never said Obama was stupid because of where he went to college. You made up that conclusion I never made.

And I've already proven that claim to be laughably false because my argument was 2 arguments. Harvard and his high school honors.

You simply were not careful when you read my argument thoroughly and I've had to slowly walk you through it. Next time be more careful and it won't have to be a teaching session in basic reading comprehension.

 

Great idea, considering the nonstop Obamite leftover leaks. We've had one since WW2, BTW.

 

Absolutely.

 

Since the Washington Post had been given this information months ago, and held onto it until they could corraborate it through the statements of other people, there's a good possibility that it is.

If it is, it will come out in either hearings or trial (or both).

It would fit the pattern of behavior in the fledgling transition.

At the time, Trump was refusing to be briefed by US intelligence officials. He would avoid such briefings from just before the election until after he was inaugurated.

At the same time Kushner, Page, and Flynn are all having converstions with Russians and not reporting them.

 

It is not illegal to talk to the Russians, it is not illegal too set up a secure line of communication with them either.

 

It is not illegal when you have already taken office but why was this necessary before (in the transition)? Answer that as that in context with the Russia lift given to Trump to cross the finish line.................it's called context, something that is part of critical thinking. Feel free to look it up.

 

We have a back channel for the president elects son in law? Then why did Kushner need another?

 

What's secure about using the Russian embassy to communicate with Russia?

 

You're telling us that you think it's OK for officials from a Presidential campaign to try and set up secret communications with intelligence officers of a rival foreign government, efforts that our government only became aware of because they were monitory said Russian intelligence operatives?

 

The WH has always had back channels.. What Kushner and Flynn were trying to do was a seecret back channel from the Russian embassy to the Kremlim before Trump was even in office. THAT is patently stupid.. and that's why the Russians ratted Kushner out. Do you understand NOW? The Russians were floored over such idiocy.

 

Absolutely. A secure line to another nation is nothing new, nor is it illegal in any way. We've had secure communications with Russia since 1945.

Something out of the reach of the leftover Obamite Federal criminal leakers is an absolute necessity at this point.

 

What it means is that Tillerson, McMasters and the Russians know Trump is damned stupid.