The Warrior Lifestyle

Discussion in 'Gun Control' started by 6Gunner, May 30, 2017.

  1. QLB

    QLB Well-Known Member

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    Nice watching you squirm. Shotguns? Really? LMAO.
     
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    Shiva_TD Progressive Libertarian Past Donor

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    I've always been a gun owner and I embrace the right to keep and bear arms that's protected by the Second Amendment. AT the same time I'm equally opposed to both extremes in the gun debate
     
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    No, your anecdotal quips and barbs and insults accomplish nothing of any value, and your insulting and rude behavior to people here, has evaporated any credibility or good will you might otherwise have had.
     
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  4. tom444

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    Ha, please, and your nonsense?

    I repeat, have my personal experiences, and many personal experiences by others, shot a hole in your you gotta carry to survive theories?
     
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    That's right, shotguns.
     
  6. QLB

    QLB Well-Known Member

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    Nice watching you squirm. Shotguns? Really? LMAO.

    Hey Tom, no one really believes you now. Junkies with shotguns. Sounds like a bad movie.
     
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    Ha, yeah, there are no junkies, or shotguns, in Boston. And no one ever runs into that kind of thing driving a cab, bouncing in a bar, or living in a tough neighborhood.

    So says the you gotta carry crowd. Now that's funny stuff.
     
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    I have heard that line many times, sometimes by fellow law enforcement supervisors and other Brass etc.....
    Truth is; there is plenty of Gun Control in place, it is not going away any time soon, and as a Police Officer, I observed that Gun Control did little more than restrict and hinder law abiding citizens, it never did prevent Criminals from obtaining firearms or using them in crime and criminal activities.

    Gun control has been used to prosecute otherwise law abiding citizens for illegal possesion of an unlicensed firearm use in a legitimate self defense event.
     
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    Lighten up Dude, I grew up in N.Y.C. and was raised by Anti Gun Liberal parents.....
    So I do know something of what you speak.
    However, I never bought into Gunless philosophy and had licensed guns and became a Police Officer.
     
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    Pay attention. I never said I was into a gunless philosophy. I'm saying all the BS about needing to carry is just that. If you want to carry, be my guest, but don't pretend it's some kind of necessity, or that it makes you safer then the guy who doesn't carry. It does none of those things 99.999999999% of the time.
     
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    My parents were into "Gunless Philosophy" I was quite clear on that point, I did not say you were into Gunless Philosophy.

    I do know this; as a Police Officer, I faced many Armed Criminals, and was successful even after getting shot....
    Sometimes I negotiated, unarmed.

    I was 10 and with family at a summer cottage enjoying the pool, Deputies drove up and warned us that desperate escaped convicts were in the area and asked if we had guns, we did not.
    That was my epiphany.
    I always liked hunting and firearms for defensive purposes, contrary to my parents beliefs.
     
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  12. tom444

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    "Sometimes I negotiated unarmed."

    That's all I'm saying. An experienced individual can do that. Just because someone pulls a gun on you doesn't mean they're going to, or want to, shoot you. (I'm speaking as a civilian here, not as an armed police officer.) They may want to do exactly that, but usually not. Somewhere in NYC, or Boston, t's likely someone is pulling a gun on someone right now, for a variety of reasons. Usually the victim will survive. When your dealing in the millions of people, of course, some will not survive.
     
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    Word of tbe day:

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    2. : to speak or write verbosely and windily pundits bloviating on the radio
     
  14. 6Gunner

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    Well, all I have to say in response is that none of the people I worked with ever worried about going through a door with me. More than once I was asked to participate in high-risk operations precisely because they felt I was the guy to have there if things went sideways. The respect of my peers on the street is all that matters to me, and tells me all I need to know about how they judged whether they thought I was "lacking in street smarts" or not.

    I also knew guys "who worked driving a cab, as a bouncer in a bar, lived in dangerous neighborhoods," etc. who got killed because they thought they were bulletproof and went around thinking they could deal with any situation without being armed.

    Well, as someone who has been both a civilian and as a uniformed law-enforcement officer I can say I'm not willing to trust my life to chance, or to the whims of criminals.
     
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    I talked the guy down because I know I'm NOT bullet proof. If I thought I was bullet proof I would have told him to shove it.
     
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    It is best said; Shove it Mate !
    Or; Get stuffed Mate !
    Then on to tea !
    What larks !
    Har..Har...
     
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    Are you an Aussie mate?
     
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    well if you support the right then you have a hard time supporting any federal gun control that interferes with the rights of private individuals. The federal government was never given any proper power to regulate in this area
     
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    25 years. we have had the two attacks on the world trade center. over 3000 killed
    what do you have to ante up in this debate
     
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    I don't have issues with people who don't want to carry as long as they don't try to impose their choices on others Why do you spend so much time trying to belittle those who do carry unless you have been legally banned from carrying yourself?
     
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    While I am no longer a bar fighter and now a gunfighter instead, and when necessary also a sword fighter ala knife fighter, my own empty hands style of hand to hand battle is a combination of Shotokan, wrestling, boxing, and kickboxing.

    Everyone needs to evolve some system of their own that works for them.

    The very best system is avoiding bad locations.

    You need to keep your distance from threats.

    You need to draw your concealed pistol quickly and shoot straight and fast when a threat unavoidably approaches.

    Your knife is your backup in case someone bear hugs you from behind.

    Empty hands combat is your backup in case you can't get to your gun or knife.

    The eye jab, the head butt, and the toe stomp are the best empty hands techniques in close quarters.

    Automatic combinations of punches and kicks and punches need to be practiced and drilled until they are automatic.

    Always wear boots.
     
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    why don't you just come out and tell us why you spend so much time trying to belittle those who carry firearms legally. All I can think of is someone who cannot legally carry himself
     
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    Crime where I live is driven by dope sales and bank robberies.

    To sell dope or rob a bank the criminal needs to steal a car.

    If you have a car you are a target. They will kill you for your car.

    So you need to be well armed with a pistol and a knife and trained to fight.

    A gun fight and/or a knife fight is after all still a fight. So you need to be able to fight. The gun and the knife are just tools to fight with.

    I also keep a long gun chained and locked up and fully loaded and covered inside my car too.
     
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    It was a sequel to "werewolves with Nunchaku"
     
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    Shiva_TD Progressive Libertarian Past Donor

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    I've owned firearms since I was a teenager and I'm fully supportive of the Second Amendment's protections of the Right to Keep and Bear Arms. At the same time I oppose the extremism of both the extreme (NRA type) pro-gun advocates that exaggerate the intent of the Second Amendment and the extreme gun-control advocates that want to regulate firearms into non-existence.

    There is reasonable room to compromise and the extremists on both sides are more of a problem than the firearms themselves.

    I never meant to imply that the "warrior" lifestyle would be anti-gun but instead would state that firearms or weapons in general hold no special meaning. Possessing a firearm wouldn't make a person any more or less of a warrior.

    That would be one of my primary complaints with Gabriel Suarez. He acts as if firearms are a part of being a warrior when it would be my argument that the firearm is a substitute for being a warrior. Anyone can pull a trigger but few people can actually become warriors.
     

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