About Trumps withdrawl of the US from the Paris Climate Agreement

Go ahead and explain how sending 3 billion dollars to countries like China and North Korea will help that problem, if in fact it is a problem.

 

More one-liner sarcasm.

This is a debate-forum. You may be looking for a Message Board to spill your bile ... ?

 

More one-liner sarcasm.

This is a debate-forum. You may be looking for a Message Board to spill your bile ... ?

 

This is a debate-forum. Perhaps you don't appreciate well-founded rebuttal to your nonsense?

Maybe you should be "exchanging' on a popular Message Board? Go for it ... !

 

It wasn't necessary because it was an "agreement" and not a treaty.

Besides, what is EXACTLY your problem? Had Obama tried to do so, exactly in the same manner that the Replicants REFUSED stimulus spending to create jobs after they took control of the HofR in 2010, would have stymied the agreement.

The Replicant Party is the bane of America, keeping it solidly in the past out of a innate fear of the future in a world speeding ahead exiting the Industrial Age and entering the Information Age.

You people and your political notions are obsolete ...

 

I just asked you a direct question, you posted twice avoiding it, and you accuse me of not debating?

 

Congress voted in 2015 to not enter into these kinds of deals.

Obama then ignored our Democratic system, and acting like the monarch he thought he was, committed us to that agreement against the wishes of the American people.

That problem has now been rectified.

 

Aint nuthin wrong with Wealth Redistribution in a nation that is Patently Unfair. (The US has one of the highest Gini Index of any developed nation. See that here.)

Moreover, the final end of the Paris Agreement is to have longer life-spans that air-pollution helps to curtain. Americans are living three full-years less than Europeans. (See here.)

There are more than just one reason for that poor score. Obesity is clearly another. But somewhere the US has to get its hands on the reasons why life-spans are less than in other parts of the world and seek a solution. The Paris Agreement was just one. (Which is why Trump can go to hell whilst individual states and companies rush to fulfill the agreement rules on their own.)

Blinding oneself to the factual evidence, as you seem to want, does not help one bit ....

PS: I do not see the pertinence of your reference to the Asian NBR, so you might explain it.

 

And there it is.

It's so unfair those Americans have money, they don't deserve it, they should pay for our stuff.

Maybe more pollution is good for you, since France has more pollution than the US? Must be all the bombs and burning tires.

If you want more wind turbines, pay for them yourselves.

 

What "problem"?

Certainly not the one regarding air-pollution in America and the health of the nation. (One in which the life-span is three years less than European countries. See that here.)

You really have no idea what you are writing about ...

 

I know that a country who has more pollution than the United States shouldn't throw stones.

 

France has only slightly MORE pollution than the US. Besides, who the hell cares? This is not a baseball game where only the national scores count.

It's about physical longevity. (Aka "Life Span") And how do we improve that life-span for our children.

Get it ... ?

PS: About the money. You hit the nail on the head. And what happens to that Income after taxation? This is what happens:


Twenty-percent of the National Wealth is held by both 0.1% of all households as well as 90%. You live in a fundamentally unfair economic system, and it was designed that way with Reckless Ronnie - which is why there are so many statues in his honor ...

 

Oh, come off it - will you? You childishness is appalling.

In a world that could not care less about Air-Pollution nothing has been done anywhere to abate it. And this agreement, the first of its kind and a Real Achievement for mankind, Trump pisses on it.

Because he is keeping a promise to 75,000 coal-miners that affects the well-being of 312 million OTHER AMERICANS ... !

PS: Trump's announcement is the handiwork Steve Bannon who is reinstating himself at the center of power in the White House and LaLaLand on the Potomac.

 

How much money is France sending to Poland, India and other countries to improve their pollution problems?

 

Borrrinnnnngggggggggggg ... !

 

You don't think China is a totalitarian regime? Go figure.

 

Well, "Using methods developed for the Yale Climate Opinion Maps," these folks have found that "a majority of Americans in every state say that the United States should participate in the Paris Climate Agreement." [Bold, underlining in original]

If the accord was so enormously popular, however, it does seem rather strange that it was never submitted to the Senate for approval (so that it could actually become a treaty). (Presumably, this was because then-President Obama knew that senators--who, out of political self-interest, tend to reflect the desires of their constituents--would not approve this accord.)

 

And like a typical socialist, you love the idea of taking someone elses money, but hate the idea of giving up your own money to those less fortunate than YOU.

 

Are you talking those non-partisan legislative bodies, the House and the Senate, that worked so closely with President Obama in a totally open and honest way? Trump has control of the House and Senate. I find it much more interesting that he didn't go through them. Why, because he knows that he would never get the support for this ALT Right drastic action from his own Party.

 

This isn't against the wishes of the American people. As a matter of fact, only one state, West Virginia, is against the Paris accord.

http://climatecommunication.yale.edu/publications/paris_agreement_by_state/

But our ALT Right president chose to represent WV over all other states.

 

Wrong.

Both the house:

http://www.cnn.com/2015/12/01/politics/house-climate-change-obama-epa/index.html

and the senate:

http://thehill.com/policy/energy-environment/260507-senate-votes-to-strike-down-obamas-climate-rules

voted down the changes Obama wanted to make.

Obama's response was to reject the will of Congress, and behave as he always did: as a dictator.

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2016/aug/29/obama-will-bypass-senate-ratify-paris-climate-acco/

Congress' decision has now been respected by a POTUS that adheres to the will of the Republic.

 

I never said it wasn't and that has nothing whatsoever to do with the Paris Agreement ...

 

Because it is NOT a treaty. It is an "agreement", meaning that (unlike a treaty) it is not legally binding since no national Legislature approved it. It is based solely upon "good faith" that the countries will observe its stipulations*.

Thus, it required no review whatsoever of Congress, and Donald Dork had no problem refusing it a Chief Executive ..

*It is doubtful that any international court would even consider a complaint of non-adherence ...

 

The US has the best pollution reduction technology in the world and is most willing to share that with the rest of the world. The Paris accords has nothing to do with air pollution.

What air pollution is the MIT study focused on ?? Were any of these victims of premature death named ??

 

Wrong! You obviously have not read the particulars of the Paris Agreement.

From here, "Climate Change" - excerpt: