DEFUND SANC CITIES AND STOP ANCHOR BABY LAW ....NOW!

Yes I know.

Its just a statute that congress and the president can change

But in the meantime the only way to prevent the anchor baby loophole is a wall and border patrols

 

Easy for Ron's Tree Service to uncover?

Not even the IRS can prevent refund checks to unauthorized people.

But you expect Ron to stay on top of who is here legally and who isn't?

 

European Jews flooded into Palestine.. How is that different?

 

Its different because this is America and I only care what is best for America.

So should you

 

The Rubios were Cuban citizens when Little Marco was born, and did not obtain US citizenship for the 19 years that they were in the US.

Permanent residents are given a “green card.” If they leave the US with the intention of making their home elsewhere, they are deemed to have abandoned their residence and nullified their permanent resident status.

 

As the old Johnny Cash song (Farmer's Almanac) goes:

If a man could have half his wishes, he'd just double his trouble. Not only are there financial costs with such a wall, it has an impact on YOUR freedom and liberty. And for what?

You're going to wall up the beaches around Florida to keep out Cubans? Will you build a wall between the U.S. and Canada? And you'll slap up a wall between Alaska and Russia?

This silliness and paranoia deserves an in-depth discussion.

 

I'm not claiming a damn thing. Any time you want to know who I am and so forth, PM me and give me your name and contact info. I'll provide you all the proof you ever need.

If having experience makes someone a liberal, then your definition needs to be cited. Otherwise, you are blowing smoke up our arse. What does having all the wrong info make you?

 

Mac-7 seems to think everything he disagrees with is liberal. Let me tell you a little known reality here:

Approximately 75 percent of the people in the United States without human registration papers have applied for and gotten an Individual Taxpayer Identification Number and pay the silly taxes based upon the illegally ratified 16th Amendment.

BEFORE the right got involved, a lot of people were revoking their Socialist Surveillance Number ... ooops "Social Security Number" and rejecting both the income tax (which is based on a plank from the Communist Manifesto) along with National ID efforts. The right is now pushing National ID AND the 16th Amendment (National ID much like Hitler's tattoo idea and a communist inspired income tax.) Sounds like they are the pot what called the kettle black.

Just so you know: citizen or not, if you are working in the U.S. the IRS will chase you down for not paying income taxes. Most undocumented foreigners DO pay the tax.

 

Yes, I know.. I am not a lawyer but I trained in civil litigation so I know you know your stuff. Of course they accuse you of being a "liberal". That's SOP.

 

I simply never saw this as a liberal v conservative issue. The people talking this trash cannot articulate an actual problem, so they accuse everyone that disagrees with them to be a liberal.

Their solutions are not solutions at all. Maybe we can educate them on this thread.

 

I don't necessarily disagree with you, but that's what it says. It'll need another Amendment to fix.

 

It's amazing that the same people who want another Amendment to fix an illegally ratified one are the same ones that dismiss original intent on the entire subject of immigration when the facts don't fit their agenda.

 

The wall does not harm my freedom or liberty in the slightest

It protects my country from illegal entry by alien people who have no legal right to be here.

Including drug smuggers and human traffickers

Who may be the very people you want to allow in

But I and most trump voters do not

And it protedts low income AMERICAN jobs that are being stolen by illegal alien labor

 

The rubio's were not illegal aliens/

They had our permission to be in the US when marco was born

 

Go wave you alleged infallible knowledge on the subjuct of immigration laws in the face of impressionable libs because you don't impress me.

But if you want to discuss the topic without all the puffery have at it

 

I'd bet dollars against doughnuts that you've supported way more liberalism than anyone you disagree with on this thread.

What's "you infallible knowledge?" Are you that illiterate?

 

If so making America the dumping ground for the worlds losers will not be one of those liberal policies I support

 

What "permission"? Please provide documentation regarding the form that took and who issued it.

I do not align with those who believe Little Marco should be summarily deported, but the persnickety fussbudgets who kowtow to bureaucratic ruthlessness need to grasp the distinction between breaking up families by targeting long-established, law-abiding, respected members of communities vs criminals, and prioritizing accordingly.

Ignoring the human reality whilst surrendering to a heartless, draconian exactitude randomly inflicted is neither in the interests of the US nor is it the will of its people. The practical matter is that, if one is a slave to strict, mindless legality, there are far, far too many folks to pursue, apprehend, incarcerate, prosecute, and deport, so focusing upon the malefactors among them is common sensical.

 

Mac-7 wants to pretend that anyone who disagrees with him is a liberal. Really?

He wants to hijack the thread from its original topic to discuss the wall. He says it will not harm his freedom or liberty in the slightest.

REALITY CHECK: The current wall is supported by the Constitution Free Zone. The Constitution Free Zone is that area within 100 miles of any border where constitutional protections are stripped away under the pretext of protecting the border:



In addition the nutty wall idea requires that we be subject to surveillance 24 / 7 / 365 from the womb to the tomb.

Since Mac-7 has no legitimate issue, he now accuses me of wanting to let drug smugglers in. This is further evidence that he has no legitimate case. If he had any case at all, he could make his arguments without personal attacks and false allegations.

As long as there is a drug problem in America, walls will not stop the dealers... again, unless you want to wall up places like Florida and California (stopping all access to beaches.) Walls will only up the ante and make the costs higher. A better solution would be to legalize drugs and tax them on both sides of the border. Mexico could match us dollar for dollar and man for man along the border - which they would and they would protect their tax generating resource without a wall.

The height of Mac-7's idiocy is the allegation that "illegal aliens" (sic) as he calls them are stealing U.S. jobs. I literally double over in laughter over this one. America is NOT a socialist country yet. Therefore, jobs belong to the employer who creates them. Foreigners cannot "steal" jobs that were not yours in the first place. Furthermore, laws that only allow employers to hire based upon quota schemes are a throwback from the 1970s. That issue, when applied to employers being forced to give X number of jobs to blacks was what brought the conservatives and Republicans into power with Ronald Reagan. Today, the anti-immigrant lobby wants to apply liberal principles against foreign workers in the same way blacks wanted a guarantee to get jobs before Reagan was elected.

 

It's your side that wants people to be forced into citizenship, sir.

 

You are the first person who has claimed rubio's parents were illegal aliens

So the burden of proof is on you

 

That statement makes no sense.

I hope you offer better gibberish when you are before real judges

 

Doesn't make sense? You're the one accusing people of stealing jobs.

 

Don't make me laugh

As an American citizen I still have consitutional protections within 100 miles of the border

 

Ok I see what you were trying to say.

Those people should not be here at all and its my intention is to have them deported instead of "forcing" them to become citizens