Repealing age limits for sexual relationships.

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  1. Landcover

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    But still they asserted that sex is harmful for children... without evidences. And there is nothing I can do about it. To believe a person it's not enough for him to be a scientist, i need his claims to be scientific.
     
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    No. The evidence is in thousands upon thousands of studies and publications available right at your fingertips. Just because you arent reading them doesnt mean they dont exist.
     
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    I read them plenty. If you read them too, what evidences did you found there? Name one.
     
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    "As well as nothing indicate that democracy, advances in science, architecture, navigation, and rule of law, were all introduced to the world by the HRE."

    The indication is the opinion of historians, not the result of my analysis of the graph.

    "Christianity did not die off, but it looses it's authoritarian power and control over people. It become weaker and weaker over years."

    Yes- it lost its authoritarian power. No- it did not become 'weaker.' Authoritarian power always breaks down, given enough time. Spirituality persists beyond empires. Christianity increased both its spread and its 'staying power' as an influence in the minds of humanity by splitting from earthly authority. It was never supposed to be used as a means for authoritarian control, and while those who seek control over their fellow humans will always *try* to use it as such, it will never be more influencial than it is on its own merit. Establishment religion is a twisting and corruption of spirituality. Roman Catholocism was a means to spread Power in the guise of Christianity. When Rome power fades, 'true' spiritual christianity spreads in its wake.

    "Protestantism itself is a result of liberal reappraisal of classical Christianity, cause/effect relationships here is not evident."

    You're applying modern terms to pre-modern definitions. It just dont float.
    Todays 'Liberalism' (more accurately understood as progressivism) is near polar opposite and antithesis to 'Classical (Original, 'Jeffersonian') Liberalism.' There was no 'liberal' prior to Protestantism and The Rennaisance. The idea that humans were not property of The State (the ruling elite) did not have enough support to even have a name (except, perhaps, 'rebel,' 'troublemaker' or 'criminal').
     
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    The graph was used not as proof but as counterweight to his unsound claims. If you want to talk about Christianity it would need to be a thread of its own.
     
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    So a parent kissing their child in a non sexual or non romantic way is damaging to the child?
     
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    So..What is your definition of objective morals?
     
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    No.
     
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    Try to avoid harm, that's all.
     
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    Then where is our disagreement?
     
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    'Harm' by whose definition. Yours?
     
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    You believe that sexual relationships are dangerous, I believe they're not.
     
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    I think your's definition will be right too.
     
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    I never claimed that sexual relationships were dangerous. Placing your words in my mouth does not make them my own.
     
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    Of course not so don't be absurd. The laws designed to protect a child from sexual abuse due to dominance based upon numerous reasons such as age, size, maturity and even bribery apply across the board and the parent/guardian cannot override these laws to protect children.. When there is no law then the parent/guardian has the authority to prohibit any contact with the child.

    These laws are Constitutional based upon the criteria of "strict scrutiny" (the highest level of judicial review) that's applied anytime a person's Constitutionally protected rights are potentially being infringed upon. Under strict scrutiny the court assumes the law is unconstitutional and the state (government) has to establish a compelling interest of the state/people for the potential infringement. In the case of the prohibition against sexual relations with a child based upon age the compelling interest is obvious.

    Only a perverted sociopathic or psychopathic adult wants and/or seeks to have sex with a child.
     
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    If you agree that sex is not dangerous for children then there is nothing that we can argue about, and I don't know what are you doing in this thread.
     
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    So? What is the difference between sex and hug?
     
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    Whether sex is dangerous for a child depends upon what constitutes a child and the context of the sex.
     
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    Any person before 14 years old.
     
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    I am personally against it as most teens are naive and easily manipulated by one who is mature and charismatic.
     
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    I think you are certifiably insane.
     
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    How is consent established?
     
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    So? What is the difference between sex and hug?
     
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    If child want's to that's consent.
     
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    Of course they are dangerous. If nothing else, the risk of pregnancy and STDs.
     
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